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Subject: LSU RED Replies: 14
Posted By: CliffH Views: 392
 
Okay, you convinced me! I'll add it to my (ever-growing) wish list.

Subject: EXPANDABLE GARDEN HOSE...SAVE YOUR MONEY Replies: 24
Posted By: CliffH Views: 4,337
 

I was in HD a little while back, and I heard the manager of the garden area talking to another employee. She was saying that the expandable hose that they sell had an almost 90% return rate (her words).

Wonder why they still carry them then......


CliffH


Subject: Apple and Fig Custard Replies: 4
Posted By: CliffH Views: 98
 
I'll be sure to add it to the fig cookbook that I am trying to compile. Hopefully I can get it posted before too much longer.

Subject: Strawberry Verte - totally awesome Replies: 35
Posted By: CliffH Views: 1,094
 
Now I really can't wait until next year to try my own !

Subject: LSU Gold 2016 Replies: 8
Posted By: CliffH Views: 168
 
Looks great! I'm glad to read the good review of the LSU Gold's taste. Some rate it as just a so-so fig. I am really hoping for better. I have one from a rooted cutting that I hope to get figs from next year. Thanks.


CliffH

Subject: Moldy Cuttings in Moss Bin Replies: 5
Posted By: CliffH Views: 93
 

I have a question for all you out there with more experience than I have in rooting cuttings (that should be almost everyone reading this...).

I had a batch of cuttings ($$ on eBay) get completely covered in mold while in the moss bin/box. The question that I have is; what do I do with the moss after throwing the cuttings away?

a.)  Throw the moss away as well.
b.)  Spray the moss with some agent to kill the fungus, and let it dry. Then reuse it.
c.)  Just let the moss dry thoroughly, and then reuse it as is.

What would you do? I am worried about the mold being spawned on new cuttings by the moss.


CliffH.

 


Subject: Unexpected Nice Find at a Local Nursery Replies: 12
Posted By: CliffH Views: 307
 
And before I forget. Here are the two Native Black trees Richie was asking about. A little worse for wear this time of year. But hey, they were only $20 for both. They should perk and start growing once I get them into the ground this fall. I plan to put them in the same hole.

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Subject: Unexpected Nice Find at a Local Nursery Replies: 12
Posted By: CliffH Views: 307
 
Here's a picture of the stem that I took this morning before work. Looks like a real Panache to me. I have to admit that I didn't check before buying the tree. The nursery that it came from is pretty reliable, and I think they grew these trees themselves.


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Subject: Unexpected Nice Find at a Local Nursery Replies: 12
Posted By: CliffH Views: 307
 

Native Black is fairly easy to find here, thanks to the Brazos Citrus wholesaler south of the city. I had planned to wait until new spring inventory to pick one up. But at a 2-for-1 sale, I couldn't say no today.

I can post pics. But they are kind of small (about 3ft). Plan to put them both in the same hole.


Cliff


Subject: Unexpected Nice Find at a Local Nursery Replies: 12
Posted By: CliffH Views: 307
 

I was running errands this morning, and stopped at a nursery a little outside of my normal area. I was looking for a Uncle Corky's Delight tree for a fellow forum member. I had seen this variety there a couple of times earlier in the summer. Not this time though.

What I did find, most unexpectantly and happily, was a nice looking Panache Tiger fig tree (picture below). It was hidden away behind the nursery office building. They were sell it for half-off this late in the year. So, end up only paying $25 for this nice tree! It is very well rooted. We had to dig several pencil sized roots out of the ground to move the pot.

Also picked up a couple of Native Black trees for buy-one-get-one-free....


CliffH

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Subject: Large Black Spots/Areas on New Leaves Replies: 3
Posted By: CliffH Views: 106
 
Just to update this, in case some else sees black areas like these, I sprayed the trees with fungicide. That seems to have corrected the issue. There were a few more black areas/spots after these first ones. But no new ones since I sprayed. I also moved the trees to an area that we dry the morning dew faster.


CliffH

Subject: Large Black Spots/Areas on New Leaves Replies: 3
Posted By: CliffH Views: 106
 

I went out to check the trees before going to work this morning, and I found these black spotted leaves. Only these three leaves so far. This is all on new growth on small trees from cuttings rooted this last spring. I have never seen this before on any plant. Any idea or help on what this might be, and the cause.



Cliff H.

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Subject: $7 fig trees for spring/summer delivery, around 150+ varieties Replies: 775
Posted By: CliffH Views: 28,715
 

I thoroughly agree with Andrew's post and comments! I feel that Jame is trying to offer a service to fig forum members, allowing us to get variety that many could not otherwise afford or acquire. At the prices listed, he is not trying to start some grand business for big profits. He is offering many of us new collectors a great chance to improve our collection at the expense of his effort and time. I have ordered both cuttings and trees, and don't mind waiting. If I didn't want to wait, I could pay eBay prices.

Thank you James for all the hard work. Please ignore the negative comments, try not to let them get you down, and continue your good work.



CliffH


Subject: Cotinis mutabilis, figeater beetle Replies: 28
Posted By: CliffH Views: 283
 

Quote:
Originally Posted by bamafig
Those are June bugs. We used to tie a thread to a leg and let it fly in circles while we held the string...we didn't have cable or video games.



I am glad to hear that I'm not alone in practicing this childhood entertainment. We all did the same thing (at least until the leg came off), and I have showed my young daughter how to do it too. Luckily we have not had an issue with them on our fruit trees.


CliffH.


Subject: White Bugs on New Growth Replies: 2
Posted By: CliffH Views: 78
 
Thanks. I will check. The fig trees with the little bugs are only a few feet from some of my smaller, in ground, satsuma orange trees.

Subject: White Bugs on New Growth Replies: 2
Posted By: CliffH Views: 78
 
I guess today is my day for posting on the forum...

I went out to check my newly rooted trees after several days of rain, and found that most are covered in small moth like bugs. I am new to figs and fruit trees. Don't know with they are, but they are probably not good.

What are they, and how do I get rid of them if they will hurt my trees?



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Subject: Not an Alma, But What Is It? Replies: 14
Posted By: CliffH Views: 250
 
Thank you Herman. That was another variety that I considered, and it fits very well. I was just hoping I had something different. Especially when I can get these plants for $10 a piece this time of year....

I will still keep the tree. When it's dormant, I plan to remove it from the ground and move it to a container (I planted it in the same hole as a real Alma to make a group planting). Hopefully the fruit will improve next year.

Subject: Not an Alma, But What Is It? Replies: 14
Posted By: CliffH Views: 250
 
Thank you for all the comments and help. But in reviewing the nurseries website, and that of DWN, I am no longer sure that it came from Dave Wilson. I was sure that I had seen earlier that this local company was on the DWN retailers list. So now it looks like I was in error on that.

White Genoa and Adriatic were also my best two guesses from the research that I have done. But, heck, six months ago I didn't know there were more than about 20 varieties of figs......

I sent another e-mail to the local wholesaler, just asking what green varieties that sold this last year. Their current website does not list any green figs. Hopefully they will answer this one. The local retail nursery still has about 20 of these trees (they didn't really care about the mis-label either, after I let them know).


CliffH.

Subject: Not an Alma, But What Is It? Replies: 14
Posted By: CliffH Views: 250
 

I recently saw a posting for Brooklyn White figs. Some had red flesh inside. Could this actually be a Brooklyn White? The leaves are fairly close to many posted pics too.


Thanks,
CliffH


Subject: Purple Passion Fig Replies: 6
Posted By: CliffH Views: 122
 
Yes, thank you for the links. I had read some descriptions of the fig. I was hoping to find someone on the forum that had some personal experience with the fig tree. In some older post it seems that a few members are, or were, growing this particular variety.


CliffH


Subject: Purple Passion Fig Replies: 6
Posted By: CliffH Views: 122
 

Does anyone know anything about a Purple Passion fig from the Houston area? I know there were few older post on this fig. Anyone have any new reports or info? Would it be worth having when the tree matures? Is is really a different fig than a BT offshoot?

I was just looking from some updates or any new comments. I was offered a small tree, and was wondering if it is worth the effort to go get it, and the space that it will take up.


Thanks,
CliffH


Subject: Italian 258 Auction for Brian Replies: 22
Posted By: CliffH Views: 597
 
The tree arrived on Friday. It survived very well, and is a very healthy looking little tree. I will try to take very good care of it. Right now it is sitting the shade until it adjusts to Houston's temps and weather. The sun is just too hot for anything other than morning sun or partial shade for young trees this time of year. 


Cliff

Subject: The fig Newton solution. Replies: 20
Posted By: CliffH Views: 231
 
I will definitely add this to the forum(s) fig recipe cookbook that proposed the other day.

-chh



Subject: Airpots - anyone used them? Replies: 10
Posted By: CliffH Views: 241
 
BTW - That third, rear, strange looking fig in the little green pots is actually a small papaya tree. My young daughter and I are experimenting/playing with growing papayas, mangoes, and various citrus from seeds.


-chh

Subject: Airpots - anyone used them? Replies: 10
Posted By: CliffH Views: 241
 

Sorry for the delayed posting of pics. We've been trying to help some family in Denham Springs, that got flooded out, as much as we can. We bought a pickup truck's load worth of used furniture and beds to temporarily get them started.

So, here are my pics. Please remember these are experiments to see the benefits of air pruning. I have never tried anything like these pots (or grow-bags) before. I have no results to post. All are recent re-pots and up-pots.

The first pic is of my one suggestion for using the reusable grocery bags. The ones like you could buy at Wal-Mart. But I bought mine off eBay for less than a buck a bag. There are several videos on-line for using these in gardening. For fig trees this would definitely be only for a season or two.

The rest are items that I found at .99 cent stores, dollar stores, etc (my wife loves these places). Basically anything that is the size I want. Then I line them, if the holes are large enough to need it, with landscapers fabric. Items cost from .20 cent to a buck a piece.

I also get square 5 gallon bucket from a local donut franchise for .50 each. I have several design trials of these going too, including a SWP/SIP design.

I will say that all the trees put into the bags, and then kept in a shallow water tray, have exploded in growth.

 

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Subject: Deanna fig Replies: 25
Posted By: CliffH Views: 508
 
Huge and delicious looking!! Your post are why I have decided to add Deanna to my fig trial here in the Houston area.

Subject: Airpots - anyone used them? Replies: 10
Posted By: CliffH Views: 241
 
If you make your own pots out of the fiber material alone, get the best toughest landscape fabric that you can find. Also look on eBay for cheap reusable fiber grocery bags to use as pots.

For me, with being new to figs and fruit trees, I am also experimenting with several air-pot designs too. Mostly using some kind of mesh container that I line with landscape fabric. I will try to post pics later. But it will take several months to evaluate and decide if my experiments yielded any benefits.


CliffH


Subject: Bland, splitting and fruit flies..... Replies: 9
Posted By: CliffH Views: 168
 

Your tree looks pretty young. All the figs that came off my smaller potted figs were pretty bland. So much so, that I even threw some away. But as posted; water, sunlight and heat have a whole lot to do with it too. I was not impressed with our one larger (~7yr old) BM at first. But 7-10 days of higher temps with very little rain drastically improved the taste of the figs. I normally waited until the skin cracked (not split) to pick the Black Missions.

CliffH


Subject: Creating a Forum Fig Cookbook Replies: 10
Posted By: CliffH Views: 134
 
"Great idea! Make use to add Bills cookie recipe to the book, its a great recipe."

Will do.

Subject: Italian 258 Auction for Brian Replies: 22
Posted By: CliffH Views: 597
 
Donation made, and PM sent.


Subject: Creating a Forum Fig Cookbook Replies: 10
Posted By: CliffH Views: 134
 

Let's create a cookbook of everyone's favorite fig recipes. My wife uses an electronic cookbook program called Living Cookbook. I'll get her to show me how to use it, and then I will start adding recipe posted here. She says that her program can export in several different formats (MasterCook, FoodDataExchang, HTML, Plain Text, etc).

The idea would be to collect the recipes given here, upload the e-cookbook to Google docs or something, and then post links to download the files with the collected recipes in various formats for these cookbook programs.

I'll start by searching the forum for earlier posted recipes, and maybe grabing a few off the Internet, to get things started.

What do you thing? Come on, let's share your favorite fig recipes here! Pictures of the dish would be great too!


CliffH.


Subject: Fig recipe book Replies: 2
Posted By: CliffH Views: 74
 

This gives me any idea. My wife uses an electronic cookbook program. I think that I'll get her to show me how to use it, and then I will start another thread asking for everyone's fig recipes.

The idea is that I will collect them, upload the e-cookbook to Google docs or something, and then put links to download the collected recipes in various formats for these cookbook programs.


CliffH

 


Subject: Italian 258 Auction for Brian Replies: 22
Posted By: CliffH Views: 597
 
She is a RN, so helping people is kind of her thing. But, yeah she's pretty great. I guess after 20 some-odd years I'll keep her.

But is she is starting to wonder about this "fig illness" I am developing. She has already talked to the family about an intervention about me planting more fruit trees.....


-chh

Subject: Italian 258 Auction for Brian Replies: 22
Posted By: CliffH Views: 597
 
The wife said give/spend what ever I thought was good. So $130.00.

Subject: Banana Fig Replies: 11
Posted By: CliffH Views: 389
 

I'm going to revive this post because I am trying to determine if there truly is an "Banana" fig to be found. I have been visiting many nurseries around the Houston area, and asking about this fig (including nurseries in Seabrook).

Like many of you, I have read a description that states that the Banana fig originated in Seabrook Texas. That it is "yellow fig with pale strawberry flesh", "closed eye", and "local fig not grown anywhere else in the US". This definitely does not sound like a Kadota.

However, after many discussion with nursery people I have arrived at the conclusion that most people in Houston use the term "banana fig" to describe the Kadota variety. I have had people at very reputable nurseries, including their "fig experts", tell me that they have never heard of the Kadota fig. I showed most the pictures posted above. They said that was the correct fig and the one they were selling, but their's is a Banana Fig and not a Kadota. Most never heard of this name. 

I am still searching and hoping.....


CliffH


Subject: What garden hose are you using? Replies: 28
Posted By: CliffH Views: 306
 
I was at Home Depot today, and overheard the garden area person say that they have had about a 90% return rate on the expandable hoses that they sell. So, I would say that this a "No" to a purchase of one of these.


CliffH

Subject: Italian 258 Auction for Brian Replies: 22
Posted By: CliffH Views: 597
 
I almost bid $99 myself, since anything a hundred or over invokes the "spouse discussion" rule in our house. We'll I guess I can go talk to her..... It's a good cause.

Subject: Jack Lilly Fig Trees in Houston Replies: 9
Posted By: CliffH Views: 244
 
I am continuing my research on the trees that I have found. Unfortunately for those you have messaged me to ask, I do not have anymore solid info on confirming the variety.

My tree had two figs when I got it. The critters got one (protection bag and all), and the wife knocked the last one off and ran over it with the lawnmower (came home from work to pick it and found the smashed mangled remains...).

I am adding more pics of the leaves, and the only remain fig (unripe) that I could find on the trees back at the nursery. I will follow up next spring when I start getting some ripe figs. I am sure this little nursery will still have the trees next spring, as they are exiled to far back corner of the property.

The leaves and one fig do resemble pictures posted by Dan_la back in 2011.


CliffH



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Subject: Italian 258 Auction for Brian Replies: 22
Posted By: CliffH Views: 597
 
I go for a bid of $80. 

Subject: Not an Alma, But What Is It? Replies: 14
Posted By: CliffH Views: 250
 

I posted a couple of weeks ago about repeatedly getting incorrectly labeled fig trees from nurseries.

https://figs4funforum.websitetoolbox.com/post/so-very-very-tired-of-mislabeled-trees-8195045?pid=1292994354

Now I am hoping that, with some additional pictures (main crop fruit), I might be able to find out what they actually sold me labeled as an "Alma". The tree was from Creekside Nursery (wholesaler) NE of Houston. But I believe that the actual grower may have been Dave Wilson Nursery.

The fig is yellowish-green when ripe, with dark red flesh inside. The one unusual thing, in my brief experience with figs, is that the skin on all the figs so far is very tough. Almost like soft leather. Just the green outside skin.

The taste on the figs from these young trees is unremarkable. Slightly sweet, with the barest hint of berry (on very ripe fruit). But over-all pretty blah and no flavor stands out. No seed crunch at all.

Any ideas beyond a "verte type"?

Thanks,
CliffH

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Subject: Birds, squirrels and possums, oh my Replies: 22
Posted By: CliffH Views: 347
 
My biggest problem this year, my first growing figs, was possums. I was blaming squirrels and even thinking raccoons. Then I found 4 half-grown possums in our large tree in 3 nights. Two the first night, and one each of the following two nights. By then there were very few figs of any ripeness left on the tree. The final figs were eaten during the next week (never saw that one). They clean us out of every last fig in a little over a week! They were carrying off the little bags and all, if when I tried to use them.

CliffH


Subject: So Very Very Tired of Mislabeled Trees Replies: 6
Posted By: CliffH Views: 313
 
I do understand about growers and nurseries. My father was a nurseryman and landscaper, and I worked in at least half a dozen nurseries and garden centers as a teenagers and in college. This was not a single tree. There were 20+ trees labeled "Alma" at this nursery. They all looked the same, and none of them were Alma's (as I have discovered). I called the nursery and e-mailed the wholesaler about the error. The nursery offer to take the tree back, but I already planted it. I have heard nothing from local wholesaler, and I am not sure that they were the actual grower. All that I was asking the wholesaler for was help in identifying the actual variety better.

CliffH



Subject: So Very Very Tired of Mislabeled Trees Replies: 6
Posted By: CliffH Views: 313
 

I purchased a tree a while back that was supposed to be LSU Purple. I have known for a several weeks that it was not (only after it was in the ground). Don't know what it is. Maybe BT.

So this week I purchased my discounted "Alma". Nice looking tree, and enough figs to bend the branched down (on a nursery tree). Friday morning I pulled out the complete unknown, and planted my "Alma" in that sunny spot.

Flash forward a couple of days, plus some pretty good rains, and I see one of the larger figs on this new "Alma" is starting to split. Looking closer, I can see red pulp inside!! So, how can this be an Alma?

It looks like I replaced one mislabeled tree, with another mislabel tree!! Really frustated!

Here are a few pics on my new "Alma" for whatever it is. It is a little under-ripe, but it was splitting so I picked it.

I do plan to contact the wholesale grower to see they can tell me what it is. Anyone here with an idea?


CliffH.

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Subject: Jack Lilly Fig Trees in Houston Replies: 9
Posted By: CliffH Views: 244
 
I was doubtful about the variety myself, and told the nursery person that. The fact that the trees came from a wholesale nursery in south Louisiana was encouraging.

Also, while researching this variety on the forum I came across a post by JohnnyTX (who lives in Houston), that says he purchased a Jack Lilly last year.The tag even looks the same and has the same spelling. Maybe he has had some ripe fruit by now. The tree I bought also has some mature fruit, so we will see.

http://figs4funforum.websitetoolbox.com/post/hello-to-my-jack-lilley-7756870?highlight=jack+lilley&pid=1289543904


-chh

Subject: Jack Lilly Fig Trees in Houston Replies: 9
Posted By: CliffH Views: 244
 

Attention fignuts near the Houston area who are interested in LSU varieties.

I hit up some smaller nurseries while I was out running errands this morning. I found a nursery with about 8 - 10 older mature [LSU] Jack Lilly fig trees. The nursery has had them for at least 3 - 4 years. The manager said that they came for a large nursery in southern Louisiana, but could not remember the name.

The trunks are around 2" wide, or some were larger. Best of all they only wanted $35 a tree. They also had some Banana/Kodata trees that were the same size and price.

The soda bottle in the pics is a 2 liter for scale....


CliffH

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Subject: Another Unknown to Identify (hopefully) Replies: 7
Posted By: CliffH Views: 109
 
Thanks. Alma does fit, and I can't believe that I didn't think of that. The embarrassing part is that I bought an Alma for 50% off, with unripe figs, just yesterday. And still didn't think of it. Thanks again.

Subject: Another Unknown to Identify (hopefully) Replies: 7
Posted By: CliffH Views: 109
 

I hate continuing to post mainly asking for ID help. But I am very new to the fig obsession. I am spending some time looking at surround neighbors for fig trees that I could propagate.

So here is are pictures of the latest find that I can't ID. At first I thought it was a Kadota, or what they sell as a "Banana" fig down here. But I haven't seen the pinkish-purple striping on these two figs before. The figs on this new tree are a little bigger than a gold ball. The figs attracted a ton of bees and wasp.

The taste was rich, with a brown sugar taste.


Thanks for looking!
CliffH

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Subject: Fig Tree ID Request: Number 5001 Replies: 5
Posted By: CliffH Views: 160
 
I returned to the mystery tree today. The fruit is still very hard and unripe. But the figs are starting to get color inside. Here are new pics of leaf examples and what the fruit looks like now, inside and out.

I also talked to the owner some more, and I think when she says the figs turn "brown" she may be talking about sugar spots.

Anyone willing to offer any guess with the new pics?


CliffH

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Subject: Fig sap skin burn - pictures Replies: 11
Posted By: CliffH Views: 249
 

I have the same thing happen with poison ivy and fire ant bites. I get nothing on my hands or other skin areas that gets more exposure to the sun and wind. But on the inside of my arms and other tender areas I get an reaction. I get the rashes and small blisters from the any bites. It does seem to take a day or two to show up too.


CliffH


Subject: Fig Tree ID Request: Number 5001 Replies: 5
Posted By: CliffH Views: 160
 

I certainly considered BT as a possibility. But most of the mature leaves only have 1 to 3 lobes. It's mainly just the young leaves on the sucker growth that has more than 3 lobes. The eye also looked different than I expected on a BT. Very tight and no color showing. I had read that BT has an "eye which has a reddish color from very early stage". This is also a very tall and upright tree.

I am hoping for something better than Brown Turkey. I will see about going back to get some ripe fruit to help with confirming an ID.


CliffH