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Subject: Looking for Info on "Spanish Yellow" Replies: 9
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I picked up a Banana this past summer from Arborgate nursery near you and planted it at my wildlife property, (after reading that it might be a Kadota).
Don't know its current condition especially since we had extra hot days and no rain lately. In addition, I might loose some more trees to wild boar and deer again.

Subject: Looking for Info on "Spanish Yellow" Replies: 9
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Had a Lemon fig. Since then I moved it to my river property. Have to check on it when I get a chance.

You could see it on the top left of this photo.


Subject: Figs from Morocco Replies: 11
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Just lost one of my four year old Argan trees when I left it outside for the first time. I don't know if it'll ever come back. All the leaves dried up after last week's cold spell.

Subject: Figs from Morocco Replies: 11
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According to one document from their archives, the Moroccan Agricultural research institute conducted a survey of fig varieties over ten years ago and identified 51 native varieties then acquired about 65 from various countries including the US, Portugal, Spain and France in order to add to the gene pool.
Unfortunately the same variety could be known by many names, especially locally and many are still unknowns. To make the matter even more complicated, many local varieties need the Caprifig.
As an example, of 24 cultivars found in the countryside only six are known at the national level.

Almoushari or Hamran or Jawharee(substantial)
White Lumbar
Rahodan
Alkooti
Aounak Hamam

Of those six I read that Rhodan might be the only one that does not need the Capri fig.
Due to translation and perhaps local pronunciation, I find that one of those six comes close to what you wrote above. Rahodan might be aghoedan.
I would not be surprised if some or all of the ones you mentioned above are non native to Morocco.

Subject: Looking for Info on "Spanish Yellow" Replies: 9
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Other than what you mentioned, I can think of three yellow figs being sold in your area. The Lemon fig, Banana and the Golden Celeste.

'Lemon' is a fig variety that was found growing on the banks of a levee near Del Rio, Texas. It has an attractive yellow skin with a creamy, smooth flesh and a closed eye. ' Lemon' has a unique flavor with mild citrus notes. It has produced well in Fredericksburg and San Antonio and is suggested for trial planting on the southern half of the state.
'Lemon' is somewhat cold tender, but produces moderate crops on new growth in years winter freezes kill it to the ground."

"Banana Fig A medium size yellow fig with pale strawberry flesh. Very sweet, full flavor, no bitterness, closed eye, but will split if not harvested when ripe. Low spreading tree, but can also grow tall, so prune to the size you want. Good production. Good cold tolerance. One of the very best. Grown in Seabrook, Texas since around 1910."
Most likely is a Kadota.

"LSU Gold A large yellow fig with light red to pink pulp. Because the fruit has an open eye when mature, it should be picked as soon as it reaches maturity because fruit spoilage may occur during ripening in high moisture periods."

I also purchased a tree called Golden Celeste last year, but the fruit was small and did not match to the LSU description and this one could easily be confused with the Lemon fig.

Subject: Figs Choices for Tulsa, Oklahoma Replies: 3
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Don't forget, The right Celeste would be an excellent choice. It's hard to beat and there's plenty of it around TX.
Since fig trees could tolerate temperatures down to 17 degrees F, depending on age, whatever you chose to plant, your tree will initially need protection.

Subject: $7 fig trees for spring/summer delivery, around 150+ varieties Replies: 775
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I'm writing this between my Christmas lunch and dinner in the hope that it might help some unsuspecting newbies from getting a visit.

The US Department of Agriculture will most likely visit you if you buy directly on eBay from overseas and might catch up with you if you buy from other overseas sources.I know this, since they already visited me twice.
If you try to hide what you're doing, it's even worse if they find out. That's when it could really get expensive.

Subject: $7 fig trees for spring/summer delivery, around 150+ varieties Replies: 775
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People have choices. Some choose to wait while others choose not to. If there was a mixup or a mistake made, I try to sort it out with the seller.
Attacking competitors/sellers in public just to discredit them for your own selfish reasons is a poor trading practice and will not increase the value of whatever collection you may have nor drum up business.

Subject: Merry Christmas! Replies: 7
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Merry Christmas!

Subject: Merry Christmas to all!! Replies: 32
Posted By: Sas Views: 335
 
"Tis the Season" Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to all.

Subject: Merry Christmas Replies: 15
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Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to all.

Subject: $7 fig trees for spring/summer delivery, around 150+ varieties Replies: 775
Posted By: Sas Views: 28,715
 
James offered a full refund for those who do not wish to wait. Based on historical postings no one knows who Babylon is or if he/she ever ordered anything.
He's nothing but a trouble maker who has nothing better to do especially on Christmas Day.
Merry Christmas everyone.

Subject: How to kill cuttings. Don't read the directions. Replies: 7
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You should've used their hair spray lol.

Subject: California Rare Fruit Scion Exchange Replies: 22
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It sounds like a Black Friday event but flying over there just for this event would make each scion worth $100's providing you find and able to get what you're looking for.

Subject: this could be a taboo topic... but I'm going to ask anyway since I'm really curious Replies: 4
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Angela, feel free to post anywhere you like. This one is older and the other one has a different format. You will find that some members post on both, while some others have a personal preference as to where to post.
I still find that some classic postings are very helpful and there's a wealth of info continually being stored in both.
Unfortunately, very recently it has become more tricky to post pictures over here and some members have stated that this issue is being addressed.

Subject: Should I pinch sprouting terminal bud tip on cutting freshly put into rooting cups? Replies: 7
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I conducted several experiments on cuttings from the same source (Tree/branch) in the same pot taken at the same time, in order to see which ones make it and which ones don't. I still don't have a formula for success. I use SIP's and never add water from above while rooting.
Some take off and some don't. Covering the cuttings with clear plastic cups, seems to help trap the humidity and increases the odds of success.
Once started, I don't like to move them or dabble with them. Since the longer the cutting the better the odds of success and the unpredictability of which bud will break out first, I wouldn't cut anything.

Subject: Is it a new scam? Replies: 78
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@Paul, I mean this whole episode in unnecessary.

Pofigist, regarding fig authenticity, just to make you feel better, my best figs are unknowns. So don't worry about fig authenticity unless you end up with an apple tree on your farm.
You don't need to attack your fellow growers/Sellers on a personal level in order to do your research.

Subject: Is it a new scam? Replies: 78
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It's very simple. You need to grow some figs first, then you hire a lawyer to help you with the paperwork.

Subject: Is it a new scam? Replies: 78
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"And it always was a beauty of forums that you can use a nickname. And I am not looking for popularity or chance to sell/buy using this forum. And I do not care about fact that many do. After all it is expensive hobby and it is only reasonable to get some $$ to cover this obsession."

It would be helpful if you told us where you sell your figs and under which name, because I'm having a tough time believing that you are here to discuss figs.
If you ever find out what is legal or what is not, please let us know.

Subject: Seeking information on Egyptian fig variety Mehetal? Replies: 10
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@Pino is your Fayumi Brown or red on the outside? Based on some readings, it has another name, "Barshoomi" in some places. It is the most common fig on the North Western coast of Egypt.  I've read is that the outer skin is brown (unless it's a Typo) and the inside is reddish.

Subject: Seeking information on Egyptian fig variety Mehetal? Replies: 10
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There's a variety cultivated in Northern Sinai, Egypt that goes by the name Red "Adasee".
It is small spherical red on the outside and red on the inside and very sweet. This variety also has a white strain that goes by the name White Adasse.
I don't know if it exists in the US or if it needs the wasp or not.
Mehetal means crook in Arabic.

Subject: Is it a new scam? Replies: 78
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Wayne, I agree, there's too much drama in pofigist posts, and one cannot help but conclude that it is personal despite him/her denying it.
I don't think that there is enough space over here to list all foreign fig varieties that are being listed on eBay by domestic sellers.
First of all I don't buy anything from overseas any more, especially after getting visited by the AD a couple of years ago, but this is what I believe:
If the USDA has any problems with figs of a foreign origin, then the first thing that they must do is to ban all fig sales on eBay, confiscate everyone's collection in the US and then burn everything.

Subject: Cuttings need help Replies: 26
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"Nutrient starved", interesting point Joe. I never thought about this since I always use moisture control soil these days, which has plenty of nutrients in it.

Subject: Oatmeal fig bars...Yum... Replies: 15
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I need to try this recipe. Thanks.

Subject: Cuttings need help Replies: 26
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The first thing, that I will say, at this stage don't move any of them. Just make sure that they are getting enough humidity and do not overwater.
Despite forming leaves, some will make it and some will not. I've had many form leaves and then eventually died. I root mine differently. I never water from above and allow osmosis to do the work. I use different containers and mix and don't like to repot any cuttings the first season if I can. Good Luck.

Subject: Is it a new scam? Replies: 78
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I'm not sure who pofigist is, but know Olga. I believe that you have your sellers confused.


Subject: Is it a new scam? Replies: 78
Posted By: Sas Views: 1,603
 
I'm not so sure what's the point behind this whole conversation is.
Olga is a long time member of this forum and other forums and has a huge fig collection from around the world that would make any fig grower envious.
They also sell Brown Turkey in Europe which has the same description. To me a scam means selling a variety under a different name. This is not the case here.


Subject: Bidding on Ebay. Replies: 12
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That's good to know. Thanks for letting us know.

Subject: Cuttings 2016 Replies: 26
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Joe, If I had known that the most expensive varieties in Europe are the no-name ones, I would've done my collecting little differently. Here we are blessed with a great supply of unknowns that may have come from just about anywhere, and I did my collecting in reverse. The whole game is about adaptability. Find the ones that are best adapted to your zone and you will be very happy. I may still get the occasional Big name variety such as Calderona out of curiosity rather than a must.
I should've read your book before I started growing figs.
  

Subject: Cuttings 2016 Replies: 26
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Some of the best discoveries in the fig world come from Unknowns.
If a tree managed to survive for several generations then it must be special.
We sometimes underestimate the magic that comes with an unknown fig.
When I started collecting figs, I was focused on the big names and wanted something really special, not realizing that the big names managed to find their way into the haul of fame from behind barns and old houses in many places from around the world. In the end the Unknowns are big name figs with lost tags and discovering a jewel among them would be a much more rewarding feeling especially when the money is going for a great cause.

Thank You Aaron and Thank You to the fig community.

Happy Holidays!

Subject: Link for some fig facts. Replies: 2
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Thanks for posting.

Subject: Phoenix fig varieties rising from the ashes Replies: 11
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I have a feeling that with many varieties, I might have to keep increasing the size of container (which might not practical due to space restriction) or put in ground, rather than root pruning. Thanks

Subject: GAYET Replies: 19
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Gayet is another variety discovered by the well respected nurseryman and fig collector Thierry Demarquest of Figues du Monde, a nursery specializing in fig trees with a collection of over 500 varieties from around the world. They also have a collection of over 200 ancient fruit varieties.
When he finds an old tree on an old farm or building he takes cuttings in search of winners. He looks for hardy winners in trees that withstood the test of times. One of his varieties 'Campanière' was a top winner at the 2014 festival of the autumn plants of Saint-Jean de Beauregard, France.
Every year http://www.rustica.fr/ awards the prizes of the Earth to the Table at the festival. These awards reward talented growers and nurserymen for their gourmet flavors, plants and useful ideas.
You could watch the report on his 'Campanière' fig over here.
http://www.rustica.fr/tv/figuier-pour-toutes-regions,8390.html

Mr. Demarquest found Gayet in the Dordogne region of South of France. The mother tree is a very old tree of unknown origin with good Brebas and the main crop coming in early September. He named it Gayet, a very small village with only a few houses.
This variety is not currently in any conservatory in France, but is very promising, hardy and has a rich taste according to him. Do not bother to look for any other info. He told me that's all the info that he has.

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Subject: GAYET Replies: 19
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I'm in touch with the original source, have photos and will post some info soon.
Just waiting for his permission. This is a very unique fig. Be careful of what's circulating out there and always check your source.

Subject: Phoenix fig varieties rising from the ashes Replies: 11
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Not sure if my theory is valid. But I do believe that certain varieties especially when in pot take better to pruning than others by continuing to produce as expected such as what Bob described above with his hardy Chicago(dies to the ground but still produces the same year), while others tend to concentrate their energy into regrowth, and hence not producing as expected or missing the season altogether.
The way I see it when a fig tree dies to the ground, it is much worse than pruning and forming a solid list of those that do come back and produce immediately (and take well to heavy pruning) is my ultimate goal.
You see I have many varieties in pots and the majority sits idle from one year to the next only to produce a very limited number of fruits or no fruits especially when pruned.
I am thinking of reducing my pruning activities on some as an experiment in order to see if skipping pruning or reducing it helps certain varieties produce better.

Subject: Problems Posting Images? Storage Limit Exceeded? More Than 1MB? Replies: 45
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Bump

Subject: Identify UNK Point Loma Fig? Replies: 31
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Hi Jodi,

Perhaps I missed it, but did your tree produce and ripen any fruit in AZ? If yes which one?

Subject: Phoenix fig varieties rising from the ashes Replies: 11
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I keep reading about fig trees growing back from beneath the soil after a total freeze.

Of those varieties that get killed to ground level, which ones tend to come back and produce in the same season especially in cold areas? I've noticed that when I heavily trimmed some of my trees this past spring, some varieties grew with a vengeance but did not produce at all. As an example, Ronde de Bordeaux which produced the previous year did not produce any fruit this past season.

Perhaps we could create a log of inground figs that tend to come back and produce immediately.

Subject: pretty slick air layer video Replies: 10
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So, is using the rooting compound an alternative to peeling off a section of the outer layer?
Thanks for posting.

Subject: interesting winterizing video Replies: 2
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Great video.
I've used the foam insulation by itself before. It's not effective and still lost a fair amount of the wrapped branches.
Adding the heater, the blanket, the tarp and the bucket makes a huge difference.

Subject: Why do fig need to go dormant? Replies: 28
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The ones that refused to ripen were a second crop and are in containers. Since the weather was still hot and where I am located, they easily get 8 hours of day light, my theory is that the trees ran out of energy and needed some rest. Perhaps when the trees get larger then they might have more energy to ripen a second main crop. Not sure if it works in a container.

Subject: Why do fig need to go dormant? Replies: 28
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I currently have a whole bunch of figs on some of my trees outside and despite the cold temperatures this week those trees still have leaves as of today .
They have slowed down over a month ago or perhaps more when temperatures were still relatively warm and I was in short sleeves, but the fruit stopped growing and is still the same size.
This indicated to me that dormancy could take many forms depending on external conditions.

Subject: Why do fig need to go dormant? Replies: 28
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Doug,

I would be very interested to know about fruiting of those trees that grew inside during the winter.
I've done that too, but those indoor trees went a full cycle without any fruit. The ones that go dormant outside appear to be more in sync with their natural cycle when it comes to fruiting.


Subject: Why do fig need to go dormant? Replies: 28
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I noticed minimum growth during the winter months even if the fig plants are indoors. It seems like there's a hidden code in their DNA that tells them when to start growing. Environmental conditions are the most important trigger for going into dormancy and coming out of dormancy. Regardless of whether dormant or not, most plants need a rest period.

http://www.gardeningknowhow.com/garden-how-to/info/plant-dormancy.htm

Subject: Using Ethepon for early fig maturity! Replies: 10
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"It is manufactured by Rhône-Poulenc (Bayer Crop Science) and Jiangsu Anpon Electrochemicals Co. in China". Wikepedia.

When you learn of how widely it is used you have to pause and ask if we are being told the truth about its safety.

A EPA paper published in 2006 says that
" On average about 4.1 million pounds of ethephon are used annually on 1.7 million acres. The crops with highest percent crop treated are tart cherries (61%), grapes (40%), processed tomatoes (15%), and cotton (10%). "

Now according to Wikepedia,

"It is often used on wheat, coffee, tobacco, cotton, and rice in order to help the plant's fruit reach ripeness more quickly.

Cotton is the most important single crop use for ethephon. It initiates fruiting over a period of several weeks, promotes early concentrated boll opening, and enhances defoliation to facilitate and improve efficiency of scheduled harvesting. Harvested cotton quality is improved.

Ethephon also is widely used by pineapple growers to initiate reproductive development (force) of pineapple. Ethephon is also sprayed on mature-green pineapple fruits to degreen them to meet produce marketing requirements. There can be some detrimental effect on fruit quality".


The EPA uses lots of word that give the impression that it is relatively safe. I'm not sure what relatively safe means.


Some excerpts from two EPA publications the same agency that approves its use.

" Ethephon is corrosive in acute dermal irritation studies using rabbits, has the potential to cause eye irritation, and has been placed in Toxicity Category I (the highest of four categories) for these effects. It is moderately acutely toxic by the oral, dermal and inhalation routes (Toxicity Category III), and does not cause skin sensitization. "
https://www3.epa.gov/pesticides/chem...1_1-Apr-95.pdf


"The toxicity database for ethephon is adequate for the selection of doses and endpoints for use in risk assessment. Ethephon (an organophosphonate) produces organophosphate-like signs of toxicity including salivation, lacrimation, urination and defecation. These toxic signs occur in experimental animals usually at high doses of exposure. The most sensitive indicator of exposure to ethephon is the inhibition of red blood cell and plasma cholinesterase which occurs at low levels of exposure and may not be accompanied by clinical signs of toxicity until a threshold level of exposure is reached."

https://archive.epa.gov/pesticides/r...ephon_tred.pdf

Subject: Using Ethepon for early fig maturity! Replies: 10
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"TRADE OR OTHER NAMES: The active ingredient ethephon is found in a variety of commercial herbicides. Trade names for products containing ethephon include Arvest, Bromeflor, Etheverse, Flordimex, Flordimex T-Extra, Cerone, Etherel, Chipco Florel Pro and Prep (223, 316).
REGULATORY STATUS: Ethephon is a general use pesticide (GUP). Check with specific state regulations for local restrictions that may apply. Products containing ethephon carry the Signal Words "Danger", "Warning", or "Caution" depending on the product (223).

CHEMICAL CLASS: organic phosphorus compound / ethylene generator / plant growth regulator

INTRODUCTION: Ethephon is a plant growth regulator. Its use varies with plant species, chemical concentration, and time of application. Ethephon regulates phases of plant growth and development by application to various growth sites (1). It is currently registered in the U.S. for use on apples, barley, blackberries, bromeliads, cantaloupes, cherries, coffee, cotton, cucumbers, grapes, guava, macadamia nuts, ornamentals, peppers, pineapples, rye, squash, sugarcane, tobacco, tomatoes, walnuts, wheat, etc. (1, 223, 207). Ethephon's mode of action acts via liberation of ethylene, which is absorbed by the plant and interferes in the growth process (1). It is also used in the acceleration of ripening of fruits and vegetables (302). Ethephon comes in RTU (ready-to-use), emulsifiable concentrate and aqueous solution formulations (223, 316). It may also be used in combination with Terpal (with mepiquat-chloride) and Terpal C (chlormequat-chloride) (223)."


Source http://extoxnet.orst.edu/pips/ethephon.htm

Subject: Using Ethepon for early fig maturity! Replies: 10
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethephon#Action




Subject: Using Ethepon for early fig maturity! Replies: 10
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I just read an alarming article on the French website Fructidor.fr

According to their source which is a Turkish website Called Hurriet.com.tr. I will translate:

"The committee responsible for evaluating the harvest date of the Bursa fig, renowned throughout the world for its caliber, taste and quality, decided to advance the date from 10 August to 9 August, given the weather conditions Particularly hot, having favored the maturity of the fruits.
90 percent of Turkish black figs are harvested in the Bursa area, which typically harvests some 25,000 tonnes per year, of which about 60-70 percent is exported, providing excellent income for its producers.
This year, an alarm was given so that producers do not use a chemical, the Ethepon, which allows an earlier maturity of the fruit, up to fines for those who use it."

Subject: GAYET Replies: 19
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You have to have a famous name in order to get the big bucks.
Gayet is the last name of actress Julie Gayet the girl friend of French President Francois Hollande. Her parents have a Chateau in south west France. Perhaps this tree came from their garden or perhaps someone named his tree Gayet in honor of Julie Gayet. Still waiting for a photo. Email sent.

Subject: GAYET Replies: 19
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There is a fig in France called Gayet. Gayet is also French family name.
Someone in the Dordogne region of France may have called his fig Gayet.
I would like to see a photo of the fruit if you have one.