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Subject: Problems Posting Images? Storage Limit Exceeded? More Than 1MB? Replies: 45
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wow! is that a tree fungus or some sort of parasitic plant?  cool whatever it is!

Subject: Cold spell in Houston Replies: 18
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Dennis,

Other options near Katy are closer to the coast, try Clear Lake, Friendswood, Texas City, Kemah.  

Great weather, great temps. Freezing temps rarely penetrate the 9B coastal breeze climate and when they do, it's usually- usually in the mid 20's.  I can remember a while back, maybe 25 years ago, the cold came in so hard it killed a bunch of the speckled trout in the bay.  but, that was very unusual. great environment for figs and many, many other plants.


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Subject: Think I have to pot up now! Or not? Replies: 25
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Joe,  I think you will have more than enough lighting!  Wish i had that much wattage, my friend!  I realized later that he real topic is "should you up pot".....i missed the target.   i am moving to 1/2 gal pots as soon as i can.  my theory is, a greater mass of soil can withstand more mistakes from me, so once i see about half the root growth you have, i am moving up, continuing to use the same airy medium that i use in the cups. So far i've moved four.

Joe D, thanks for the hardening off solution.  i dont have much shade here.  maybe i put them in the garage and leave the door open so the sun shines in?  that's the only shade i have- that or the south side of the house.

Sas, as a homesick Texan in Kansas, I want to let you know that talk of sunny windows, day light or heat is down-right mean! All my figs live in a basement right now; i'm fairly (completely) unfamiliar with basements and basement plant management.

I  am longing for my return to the land of two seasons; hot and not so hot.... although you did get some real cold temps this week.  my dad had to struggle to keep the greenhouse warm enough to protect his temp sensitive plants; the tropicals, you know.  How are your figs making it?  are you covering them at all?  Bastrop thermometer got down to 18°F this week.  

johnny


Subject: Think I have to pot up now! Or not? Replies: 25
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Joe,

I'm using a 50w LED to provide light to grow through the winter- but, i am continuously adding more to my set up. I think i will need 100w before the winter is over.  Although the Pres-elect would not approve, i buy my LEDs, power supplies and current regulators from China. So, i am thinking 50w for rooting and 100w once potted up.  It takes 3 weeks to a month for arrival, but it comes at 1/10th the cost.  i also know several folks who use 50w LED flood lights.  i made the mistake of building my cabinet way too small and short. once the weather turns warm enough to get in the garage, i'll be constructing a taller cabinet/shelving to make it through the winter.  i also severely underestimated the growth of figs.  i can send you more info if you are interested in building, but i do think the 50w floods are the best option- you dont have to be concerned with heat dissipation- i just discovered them too late. 

here is an example of a 50w for $20 USD and free shipping.  you may find it less expensive from China, this one is located in Ohio. 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/10W-20W-30W-50W-Cool-or-Warm-White-LED-Flood-Light-FloodLigh-Outdoor-NEW-UB-/122270260301?var=&hash=item1c77e01c4d:m:mPiKK_axochSgodi5qgJ8rQ

Also, i would suggest the cool white for growing.  The warm white has more red than the cool white, which is more blue.  


At least this is a good problem to have, right?  

johnny

Subject: Just got Cheaper!! Replies: 9
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I am new at this.  I don't know figs from Adam (), but i know i received more than i paid for from Charles.  If you're just learning, buy these. Great price, great varieties.  

Charles, my DK just went in to the coir.

thanks again for offering these to us new guys!

johnny

Subject: I made a mistake on shipping cuttings... Replies: 15
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received mine also but was so intensely focused on opening the package, i wouldn't have known if more postage was due!

- my first NdA is just showing a root! (i know, i know. leave 'em alone. - i took a peek)

thanks for offering these Bill!

johnny

Subject: Penachee Replies: 8
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This one is on my short list.

Subject: How's everyones cuttings coming along? Replies: 84
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Looks like exactly what happened to me.  are the leaves rubbery and tightly attached?  How much are you watering?  As much more elegantly put by Toronto Joe,  the roots may have rotted and lost turgor pressure since the leaves aren't connected to the roots.  Anyway, that's what happened to me.  i lost one cutting, but stopped watering so much and i am now seeing improvement.  see this thread; it may help.

http://figs4funforum.websitetoolbox.com/post/wilting-of-rooted-cutting-7844470?pid=1294317005

johnny

Subject: How's everyones cuttings coming along? Replies: 84
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Devisgro,

I have no idea the variety.  I picked them off the bartender at the hotel.  He said they were feminello and they looked right and tasted excellent.  i didn't realize at the time that lemons dont grow true.....do you know of a source in the states for a feminello tree?  I would love to have one at the house.


johnny

Subject: Remember figs4fun?Time to turn this bus around! Replies: 55
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1.  

great to be back on figs!

Subject: How's everyones cuttings coming along? Replies: 84
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I think it's fear of killing them that drives me, personally.  I am recently amazed at how dry figs can get.  i am not watering until i see no signs of water at all in the cups. So far, seems to be working and the roots i think, are growing faster. 

Also, i think i stopped applying too much, just in time-  a couple of mine look like the rooting on the outside of the container have receded.  i think the roots had died back, but not enough to kill them.  i am now seeing growth again, after a week or two.

im expecting the same from my lemons.  they are feminello lemon seeds from italy.  i knew as much about lemons as i did about figs this summer; but i got them to grow, so i'll report back in 5-10 years on the fruit!

Subject: How's everyones cuttings coming along? Replies: 84
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Excellent,

Do you seven ever congregate?   I don't get into town very often, but would like to see how folks are growing figs in the area.  I will be planting several trees in the area near  610/shepard

Subject: How's everyones cuttings coming along? Replies: 84
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Cliff,

two stage is a great idea.  I wish i had the space.  I've noticed the newest growth suffers when i move from the humidity tent to the growing tent, even though i've tried to maintain some humidity in the latter.  Whereabouts in N Houston are you?  I visit my mother there as often as possible, near the heights.

Subject: How's everyones cuttings coming along? Replies: 84
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TJ,

Not counting the two figs, to the left is an African Spear Plant, Sansevieria Cylindrica.  i thinned a plant i have growing in my house.

The middle is a cana lily from seed taken from an old variety in Serbin, Texas.

to the far right are lemon from seeds.  i know they wont grow true, but i thought id see what comes out, just for fun with the kids.  

Anyway, i want to thank you, again; you saved my entire crop of figs this year.  


So my most valuable lesson learned is : WATER

- restrain the urge to water every day or two; only water when your plants show you they need it.

- Yellowing roots is the first indicator of too much water. 

- Less water means faster root growth.  Since my watering can is on restriction, i have seen a great improvement in root growth, the color, the size and the speed of growth of the roots. I'm not out of the woods yet, i still have some yellow roots, but the growth around them is doing very well. 

- Have begun to practice watering from the bottom.  will work as long as i have them in trays.  I flood my trays to about 1/8" of water, just enough to get some moisture in there.  

- I add a dilute fertilizer to the water, in a 1-.5-1 ratio.

Subject: How's everyones cuttings coming along? Replies: 84
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Yes! Dang!  I left off Toronto Joe, who correctly diagnosed my one sick cutting. TJ, it was definitely root rot from over watering- you saved me from losing my entire crop.  Thank you, in particular, very much.

Subject: How's everyones cuttings coming along? Replies: 84
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I want to say thanks to all those who took the time to help me out this fall. I hope to be able to repay the goodwill in the future. 

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Specifically, i want to thank the following for sharing knowledge of and actual figs.

Charles: TahomaGuy2
- Croatian
- Desert King

Danny: NYCfig
- Sandy
- unk sweet diana

Jodi: Jodi
- VdB
- Lampa Parda

Bill Saxon: SaxonFigs
- Hative d'Argenteuil

Brent: hoosierbanana: ebay handle cptmorgan197
- Marseilles Black VS

Art Connor: Kubota1: ebay handle artamyconnor
- Florea

Herman: Herman2: ebay handle hermansur
- Adriatic JH
- Col de Dame Gris
- Aubique Petite
- Ronde De Bordeaux

 

Plus all the fine people in Vicenza, Italy who supported me. I have way too many figs...


humbly yours,

johnny


Subject: Wilting of rooted cutting Replies: 34
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the leaves are more rubbery- they wont easily pull off.  the stem still looks ok; no shriveling or shrinkage. i guess that's not a good sign.

Subject: Wilting of rooted cutting Replies: 34
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So,

Is there a consensus? leave it in the pot and let it dry or pull it out and start over?  Im open to either at this point. 

Subject: Wilting of rooted cutting Replies: 34
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thanks.  i am itching to get them in bigger pots.  more dirt, more room for error.

Subject: Wilting of rooted cutting Replies: 34
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Thanks Peter. I think ive veen somewhat lucky, especially with the unk italians when i didnt know squat about growing figs. I still dont know mich, but i keep learning.

Hoosier Banana, what do yoh think about the temps im growing at. I would assume that 80s is ok, since figs do so well in texas, but i dont want to cool them. Thank you for the how-to on starting cuttings. I had never heard of removing the pith. I still have 14 cuttings in the fridge to go, so i will give this a try.

Subject: Wilting of rooted cutting Replies: 34
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i cant remember were it was cut.  this cutting is from one of the trees that initially spurred me to grow figs, so i knew nothing about taking cuttings or growing them when i acquired it. i had to begin drinking from the firehose to learn more.  unfortunately, these particular fig cuttings weren't afforded the optimal start.  i am feeling good about my chances though.  I took 3-4 cuttings from six trees and so far, i have 13(12 now) doing well from 21 cuttings.  my intent is to have one from each tree.  i know i have lost one tree, but the cuttings were so thin and small i didnt give them much hope.  and, i took the cuttings with virtually no knowledge of what i was doing. 

Not the best percentages, but, they all suffered through poor handling before i knew better.  there are still five cuttings that are sitting in coir. one looks like it might start to root soon and the other four are just maintaining- no change to appearance. im hoping that eventually, they will wake up and go. 

kind of a shame i didnt know more.  after gaining a better understanding of how to provide the optimal growing environment, my purchased cuttings are doing very well. 


Wow!  The input is faster than i can react to!  Thanks for all the great information.  Exactly why i love this forum and read every day.

Here is my current set up.  The box on the right is where i start the cuttings in cups. Once the roots are established, i move to the right.  Eventually, i will put lights in the bottom left.  I had to strip the lights out for a lack of room and move everything to the right box.

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The smaler box on the left has much more light, heat and humidity.  The 50W cool white LED is a monster.  I have a heating pad under the tray and the temps are 83 on the roots and 76 on the leaves
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The tupperware in direct contact with the top of the box is at 83 degrees. Is that too warm? The top tupperware is at 80. I think that is ok. [20161223_121038_zpsannjvirp] 


The box on the right is a little cooler, with a root temp of 78 degrees and a leaf temp of 71.  I also have a heating pad under the tray.  The lighting runs much cooler, with a larger heatsink.  There are 10 cool white LEDs  and 5 blue (460 nm) with an additional 24" full spectrum aquatic plant fluorescent bulb.

i stack a tupperware box between the heat sink that runs about 78 degrees. 

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The two plants not on the heating pad are at 71 degrees.

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The wall is below ground and radiates at 70 degrees, The humidity is noticeably lower than the root growth box, since it is not sealed all the way around.  This is where my wilted cutting lives (second from left in the front row). 

I read on here recently  about bottom watering and think i may begin doing so.  This may stop my over-watering and also add humidity. Although my first cups only have one hole, I took note of writers on this forum and now punch several holes in the sides as well as the bottom to better aerate the soil.


Any feedback on my set up, system or procedures is always greatly appreciated.

Subject: Wilting of rooted cutting Replies: 34
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TJ and JD,

Spot on. I think i pushed this one too fast.  the roots are just starting to show in the cup.  i have been feeding with a dilute 1-0.5-1 "rooting enhancer" and providing bottom heat.

i will say, i have not been particularly proficient providing a dark environment during initial rooting.  my tupperware boxes allow some light through the gap between the media and the lid. i have planned to tape them off, but have been achieving much success until now, i just got lazy.

i have noticed- in my very limited observations- that thinner cuttings grow roots faster, but the thicker cuttings, though slower to start, grow more roots and stronger roots and fewer leaves. But i could be wrong- this is my first year growing, so i cant speak to the survival rate, but so far i am having near 100% success with rooting.  i think one of my reasons for the great success rate is buying only from member of this and the other forum and am reading and listening to the experiences of the members.  

Still no sign of recovery in the wilted cutting, but i continue to monitor.



Subject: Wilting of rooted cutting Replies: 34
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Dang. It's hard to let them go dry.  I keep wanting to put water on them when ever the top gets dry.

i do agree that the roots were probably outpaced by the leaves.  i bit off a little much this year and have been moving the cuttings from the the high humidity box to the grow area faster than i wanted to.  i'v been selecting based on root growth, but as the cuttings come out of the coir, i am now having to chose less than ideal figs to move over there. 

this has been a great help!

johnny




Subject: Wilting of rooted cutting Replies: 34
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thanks dave. i'll try that.

Subject: Wilting of rooted cutting Replies: 34
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well, i guess the good news is, it might not be my fault. i am like a helicopter parent right now- that cant be good, especially when one does as mine did.  

viagra, huh?  i dont think it could make it any worse.  do any of these ever come back?

Subject: Wilting of rooted cutting Replies: 34
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i think im having the same problem- sudden death.

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it was growing fine and then, in one day, this- i may have too much water on it, but i have tried to be very careful and no other cuttings are showing these signs. 

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Subject: Fruit Tree Locator Website and More Replies: 0
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So, i stumbled on this website, Falling Fruit,  this weekend and thought it was alright;  a place to map the location of food sources across the nation. What a great idea; from native plants to cultivated fruits to safe for consumption dumpsters- really- it's all there. Find those fig trees near you.

http://fallingfruit.org/

Also, in  conjunction with this site is the San Antonio Fruit Tree Project, a stellar example of the goodness that can come from shared knowledge and a little inspiration. Start one in your neighborhood.


inaturalist is a little more broad- users are encouraged to share thier finds from the observable world and partake in discussion.  here is the link to the observations map   http://www.inaturalist.org/observations



check them out- it's a few ways to fight the winter blues till the grass is green again

johnny

Subject: Introduction Replies: 12
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Greetings Kai,

I am also new to figs and this forum. Hope you find it as helpful as i have.

I have two questions: What town are you from and can you post a link to the facebook page for german figs?

Cheers!

Johnny

Subject: Cuttings of Sandy for postage - - She's alive! - - 12/19/16 12:30 PM EST All Gone! Replies: 12
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Hi danny. PM sent.

Johnny

Subject: Problems Posting Images? Storage Limit Exceeded? More Than 1MB? Replies: 45
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Thanks TJ,

I did try that, but I still can't upload my avatar.  No big deal, just thought i'd try since some are asking members to do so.

johnny

Subject: Problems Posting Images? Storage Limit Exceeded? More Than 1MB? Replies: 45
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does anyone know how to remove photos that i've uploaded to internal forum storage?  I moved to Photobucket for online storage, but i still cant delete the forum internal photos IOT upload an avatar, since a weblink is not available for avatar images. 

Subject: Just got Cheaper!! Replies: 9
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charles, 

sent you my info on PM

Subject: Valle Negra source (in Europe?)? Replies: 12
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Also found this one living in the Valle Negra, otherwise known as the  Valle Camonica. i dont know the variety, but right leaves, right place.

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plug this grid into google  maps
45°57'16.4"N 10°16'33.3"E


Subject: Valle Negra source (in Europe?)? Replies: 12
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Figera,

Not for certain what this fig is, but i suspect it is close to Valle Negra.

Growing at Arena dei Chiostri di Santa Corona in  Vicenza, Italy. How far is this from you?

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located at :


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Subject: Comparison of Piccola Negretta and Nero 600 Replies: 6
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Don,

When i get some figs down to bastop, maybe we can compare.  I  hope to have moved some down by april.

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have a few more from Herman beginning to show roots, too.


Subject: Comparison of Piccola Negretta and Nero 600 Replies: 6
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Don,

I've moved to this post.  The below images are all taken in the Vicenza, Italy area.  Im beginning to think these might be close to Valle Negra.  Notice the last photo- of  a fig growing from a sewer grate!

My question is, what's the difference between Valle Negra and Nero 600? I see you have both and they look similar.  I am leaning towards thinking these are Valle Negra types from the following post:

"Ciao, Just today I correspond with Sergio, in Liguria to dig more information of his tree he introduced to a few of us in the U.S. (Valle Negra) I found the information very interesting. For the most part he aquired this fig from a mountains above the town of Breno, which is in the Valle Camonica, The Romans named this valley for the original Italic tribe (inhabitants) of this valley, the valley is nicknamed by locals of Valle Negra because in the winter the mountains shadow the valley and it is dark, so why valle negra name, this is all within the province of Brescia, Lombardia (Lombardy)."

Of course, i don't have fig photos, so i am only speculating until i can see the fruit.


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Subject: Unknown Negretta Replies: 9
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thanks Don. i just saw the more recent post.  this tree is growing wild in the middle of downtown Vicenza, Italy.

Subject: Unknown Negretta Replies: 9
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Don,

Does this look like your Valle Negra?

johnny

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Subject: Transferred Rootings Today Replies: 4
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Thanks Steve. I wouldn't have thought to go through the second year, but i can see how that would help the roots, though it seems like a difficult job, chasing own all those little figs.

What about leaves?  At least at this point. All the figs have roots- from a few hairs to some pretty big clumps.

Subject: Transferred Rootings Today Replies: 4
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Thanks.  Gone.

Subject: Transferred Rootings Today Replies: 4
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Had a comp day today so i decided i would take care of those pesky rootings that are going nuts in my starter box.

First I built this. I'm kind of proud. Two tiers for future expansion.  Came out well and only cost me the plastic trash bags and a light  bulb. Most of the wood came from an old project and is already thick with polyurethane.  The rest i had laying around from other bits. 

It's not fully operational, but should get these guys into a 1 gal pot. I'll have to stay on top of the humidity level.  I realized this is similar to building an egg incubator.  Temp/Humidity/light control.  The bulb in the bottom is a 100w light bulb for heat until i can get a proper heating pad in there... unless this works well.  I think i will need more light, too. Using a 24" aquatic grow bulb, but it's all i have at the time.  I really had to get the cuttings out.  I will eventually go to high output LEDs with a variable spectral mix to tune the color output to the plan requirements.  

I left a space at the bottom for adding heat, humidifier and control systems via an arduino micro controller.  A future project.  apparently my ability to build the box is greater than my ability to photograph it.   The plastic is secured with blue painter's tape- i am  concerned about humidity with that tape, but i will get some 100mph tape on it soon.

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Now for the figs. I used 1 pt coir/one pt perlite/one part potting soil/one part orchid mix. holds water well without being soggy.

 One of my rootings is growing a tiny fig.  should i remove it? seems like a lot of energy would be expended on it.

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I read somewhere on this forum that a red bud might indicate a specific cultivar. I cant find that info again anywhere.  The photo kind of whitewashes the red. Any ideas? 

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I have 21 unknown cuttings from six or seven separate trees. So far, 14 have rooted, six are looking good and one i am nursing through a fungal attack.   Here's the inside.
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Thanks again for all the help.  I can't express just how helpful this forum has been in my foray into the secret world of figs.


johnny


Subject: First Time Success- Thanks for all the Great Information Replies: 7
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ParacleteFarms- Thanks for that.  I wasn't sure if cutting the top off was the best route.  I will do this.

"remove from one shoe box and isolate it in another after pruning the cutting back to a good part."


Sas from North Austin- I am using straight coir; this brand f- MagJo Naturals Compressed Coco Fiber Peat. Bought it on Amazon.  Am interested in hearing your experiences in Austin.  I'm active duty Army in Kansas, but will be retiring to Bastrop in a few years.  My efforts here will ultimately end up there- maybe as soon as this spring if i can get away to take them to my dad's place.  

"What kind of mix are you using for rooting? Good work."


Richie Boni- I read this....after i had them in the box...... i had to work quickly before i left for PA for two weeks.  i do think a key ingredient is that i was away for two weeks; not looking, watching and fiddling around with them!

"Before you root your cuttings next time soak in 10% bleach water for a minute then root them. This will help with mold/ fungus"


Subject: First Time Success- Thanks for all the Great Information Replies: 7
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i did not cover the boxes.   i have them stacked and in a low light area, but they are not without light. i expect that is the reason for the strong leaf growth.  they also get some radiated heat.

i did count tonight and i have 18 of 22 with either bumps or roots growing.  three still look real good and fresh, one had fungus and no growth.

any ideas on how to deal with fungus growing on one end with roots on the other?  do i just scrub off the fungus or cut the dead wood out all together?

Subject: First Time Success- Thanks for all the Great Information Replies: 7
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Recently, i was had access to several unknown Northern Italian fig varieties and acquired cuttings.  These are irreplaceable to me and have been racking my brain and researching this forum extensively for the "how-to" of starting cuttings.  

I can now say that my research and all the help from this forum have paid off.  it looks like i have more than 90% growing roots. From what i can tell without tearing everyone out of the coir, only one of the roughly 20 cuttings has failed to start rooting.  I spent the last two weeks away from home and i returned to this:


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I have a question, too.  One of the cuttings has roots on one end and roots on the other; how should i go about with this? 

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Subject: Indiantown Gap, PA Replies: 1
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Hi friends,

I'm in Indiantown Gap and Harrisburg, PA with the Army.  If there is anyone in the area that would like donate to my education via cuttings, i can meet you in the area.  

johnny

Subject: Annual Wish List 2016-17 of 6 most desirable cuttings Replies: 54
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Did I miss it?  Is the season over?  

I'm real new to growing figs- just since spending a little time in Italy for work this summer and fall.  I don't have anything to trade, but I would be very thankful for any cuttings you might part with to get me started. i will gladly pay for shipping.

I'm currently stationed Ft Leavenworth, Kansas (zone 6a), but will be back in Texas(8b-9a)  in three years.  I think i can maintain a few trees until then.  i have taken  some cuttings recently, but i don't much know what they are yet,except they are all seven lobed leaves. they are just now in bags and cups to root.

So if you have extra cuttings, no matter the variety, please pm me.   I will pay for shipping via my usps account, you print and attach to box; just need box details.


thanks!

johnny