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Subject: I'mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm back Replies: 22
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Mike
Great to see you back.

Lots of changes.

Subject: Is Scotts Black = LSU Black ? Replies: 48
Posted By: dkirtexas Views: 2,949
 
 The LSU Scott's Black and the LSU Black are NOT the same fig.

I don't care who said what to whom, there is no Nursery anywhere that has the knowledge that Dr. Johnson (LSU Professor, most associated/knowledgeable expert) has and I heard Dr. Johnson talk about this at two separate LSU Fig Field Days.  Brian (CAJUNB) is absolutely correct in his description above.

Some nursery guy/person, somewhere, talking about something they know nothing about is how a lot of plants/trees get mis-labeled/named.  This is further screwed up by nurserys mislabeling and distributing their mistakes and fig enthusiasts taking the label as gospel and perpetuating the errors.

Subject: Cold spell in Houston Replies: 19
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Not concerned, as stated, greenhouse is 43f.  Heater set for 42f-60f, working well.  Only trees exposed are 4-5 yrs old and protected from wind, they saw 15f 3 yrs ago, no damage.

Subject: Cold spell in Houston Replies: 19
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3 hrs North of Houston on Louisiana Border

17f ambient
43f in greenhouse 1.5gal last night).....GOOD investment

Next week highs in 70's welcome to the wild wacky weather of Texas.

Edit - Temps at 6am CST, High today 39f

Subject: Herman2 Replies: 30
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@devisgro
There is a way of handling that....IF THE PRICE IS TOO HIGH, DON"T BUY!!  I call it market driven pricing.

I don't/didn't mean to hijack the thread, send email/PM to discuss this further.

Subject: Herman2 Replies: 30
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@OttawanZ5 
Well stated, should be required reading when signing up.

I don't mind the OT's if they are plant/tree related.

In my few years I have seen 2 or 3 feuds really disrupt the decorum of the forum and have seen the loss of more than a few members over the disruption.

It seems like there is a lot of sales lately and I am not sure that it has been good for the forum, maybe we should have a "Classified" section and not have sales listed or offered in the general forum area.

I would like to see a forum/chat room for the more serious growers, those in the business and have made a significant investment or those doing serious research and development.  Maybe we would not see the most aggravating question, "What is your favorite fig" a hundred times or more or "why does my cuttings have leaves but no roots?"

The last/current major issue is the Greenfin offering with a lot of people supporting both sides.  I couldn't care less about whether he delivers or not but I respectfully add that if it is posted on the forum, all members have the right to comment on any thread/posting.  If people want exclusivity they should use email or PM.

One thing for sure, If there is a problem child, they will most likely be gone in a short while, newer shiny objects or something seem to limit how long a lot of people stay.

Sorry for the RANT.

Really sorry to see valued members driven away by foolishness.



Subject: Remember figs4fun?Time to turn this bus around! Replies: 55
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Great Idea!!

I thought it must be CABIN FEVER causing such disagreement.

Subject: Remember figs4fun?Time to turn this bus around! Replies: 55
Posted By: dkirtexas Views: 464
 
#16
Thanks

Subject: $7 fig trees for spring/summer delivery, around 150+ varieties Replies: 775
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@Tyro
Well stated, Fair comments.

@Lebmark
Your position on "the right to comment" is wrong.  If it is posted on open forum, the "open" part is in play.  You may support James, if so, you are open comments that may be positive or negative.

To all forum members, my unsolicited opinion.
This is a forum, all posts are open to comment by all members, regardless of position on any post.  If you feel the need to participate in any discussion you should do so, but in doing so, you should not advocate censure from the resulting comments.

If you advocate the use of PM you should be using the PM.

EDIT
Why doesn't James answer these comments/questions in open forum?

Subject: $7 fig trees for spring/summer delivery, around 150+ varieties Replies: 775
Posted By: dkirtexas Views: 28,721
 
Case well stated.

Take cover!  There may be a firestorm headed your way.

Subject: Greenhorn intro Replies: 29
Posted By: dkirtexas Views: 361
 
Mike,

Thank you for your service to our country.

Please send me your mailing address via email and I will put together a pkg for you.

No charge.

Subject: New year resolution Replies: 8
Posted By: dkirtexas Views: 154
 
There is excellent logic in starting with common fig cuttings to learn and to gain experience prior to increasing inventory and watching many of them die from, most of the time, preventable mistakes.  It is very frustrating to watch any cutting die, it is very expensive to watch the premium cuttings/young trees die.

Subject: Tanning Bed Lights ????? Replies: 11
Posted By: dkirtexas Views: 166
 
As you should with any new light/heat source.

The amount of heat recvd by the plants is controlled with the distance from the source, in my case I have 10ft ceiling in my greenhouse.  In addition, I also have all my lighting on timers.

Subject: Tanning Bed Lights ????? Replies: 11
Posted By: dkirtexas Views: 166
 
Thx

I have been given a 6 tube tanning bed and I think it will work for cuttings, if not it would work for heat as the bulbs are 100w.

Subject: Tanning Bed Lights ????? Replies: 11
Posted By: dkirtexas Views: 166
 
Anyone know anything about using tanning bed lights for growing/heat?

Subject: Black Beauty 10 (BB-10) Replies: 49
Posted By: dkirtexas Views: 1,206
 
It is Wills from "the other forum"
It is rare
It is closely held
It is a great fig says good friend who has one

Do a Google search on "Black Beauty Fig"  Loads of info

Subject: Brown Turkey Problems Replies: 19
Posted By: dkirtexas Views: 332
 
I got into figs with a Smith tree that was 18" tall when I got it.  It grew to 4ft and stalled, being stuck at 4ft "whip" for the next 10 yrs.  It never got any taller or larger in caliber.  We didn't pay any attention to it and simply left it alone.

I had it in ground and when I moved I dug it up and brought it to Texas.  I put in a large (15 gal) pot and left it alone for a year.  The following February I told my wife I was going to "kill it or cure it" and I cut it down to 6" above soil level. The Spring came and the tree exploded in growth and started producing massive quantities of figs.  The original tree is now 3" in caliber and I have to prune every year to keep it under control.  It is a great fig and I attribute the growth/production to the great root system.

It is not a BT but I think that trees will "stall" and need action and maybe yours needs the same treatment.

Good luck

Subject: ISO Bulk Rice hulls Replies: 13
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I probably did not state my question clearly enough in my original post.  I have identified 83 rice mills in the Texas/Arkansas/Louisiana area and I am looking for any first hand information on a rice mill that will sell rice hulls in bulk, with bulk being defined as truckloads.  I do not have a problem identifying sources, I need information to sort the sources.  I am conducting a research project on the viability of using rice hulls in the propagation and growth of several species/cultivars of flowering trees, fig trees, and tropical ornamentals.  There are certain characteristics of rice hulls that are desirable with or without perlite being in the mix.

I usually use a model that has 50 units of each target plant for each species/cultivar.

Thanks for the input but I am not sure what a 22 acre greenhouse operation using perlite, in some other area, has to do with what I am doing.  My model is totally different.

I have done my homework on what others have experienced in the use of rice hulls in the propagation of fig trees, which has gotten me to this step in my process.  Search function here is great.

My initial requirements are for a much smaller amount than a full truckload but I need truckload pricing to complete my research.

So, with all that said, If you have any first hand experience with a rice mill in the Texas/Arkansas/Louisiana area please let me know about your experience.

Sorry I was not more clear in my original post.

Subject: ISO Bulk Rice hulls Replies: 13
Posted By: dkirtexas Views: 206
 
Thx for the link.

I want to test it as a replacement for perlite.  I don't know cost, availability, performance, etc.  preliminary research.

Subject: ISO Bulk Rice hulls Replies: 13
Posted By: dkirtexas Views: 206
 
Looking for source for bulk (Truck loads) rice hulls in Louisiana, Texas, Arkansas.

Subject: Maximum Temp for Cuttings? Replies: 4
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The temperature should be okay if the humidity is high enough to prevent the cuttings and young trees from drying out.  Home heating is very dry.

Subject: $7 fig trees for spring/summer delivery, around 150+ varieties Replies: 775
Posted By: dkirtexas Views: 28,721
 
To Alanamerciea concerning your prior posting,

This post has nothing to do with whether or not James can deliver or anything else to do with the sale of the cuttings.  It has to do with the "right to comment" on a thread posted on this forum.  Anything posted on this forum is open to comment by the forum members.

There is no exclusive "membership" or exclusive right to comment implied or guaranteed by participation in any activity posted on the forum.

I have not posted any comments on this thread as I am not a participant but that does not preclude me or any other member from commenting if desired.  It is wrong for anyone to take exception to comments simply because the purchase of "a ticket to comment" by buying a product has not been made.  There are no stipulations of membership in this forum that preclude anyone from commenting on any thread posted.

If anyone has any problem with what I have just stated please contact me and we can discuss it.



Subject: Merry Christmas Replies: 15
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BUMP

Subject: Young plants and Dormancy Replies: 2
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I subscribe to the daylight hours theory on dormancy, with qualification.  The qualification is that I do not know how they would react/perform in extended cold temps even with the lights.

I keep my lights on 24/7 in my pole barn where the temp is, at best 10 deg above ambient.  The trees in that area do not go dormant.  These trees are mostly 1st yr, 1 gal, and well rooted.  The Hibiscus in the same area show some signs of leaf loss due to the temp as they are tropical plants and I don't think they go dormant.  The pepper plants show no signs of being affected by the colder temps.

Subject: Fertilizer information Replies: 1
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"nitrogen for shoots and phosphorus for roots."  A myth?

This is a good read on the use of fertilizers.

https://puyallup.wsu.edu/wp-content/uploads/sites/403/2015/03/phosphate.pdf

Subject: Is Scotts Black = LSU Black ? Replies: 48
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Brian - Great input.  As I said, Yes on the RED.

The whole LSU "Black" thing is a mess.  I have the Scott's Black, the Thibodaux and am kinda satisfied with my "Black Fig" section as I have the Native Black, Mission, and VDB as well.  If I were to add another LSU "Black Fig" ti would be the St Gabriel but really it would be only to "Check the box".

I do not have the Italian Black but I know they are different from the Native.  Somewhere I have read that a Becnel Plantation shipping list from the 1700/1800 era had a fig listed as "Black Fig from France".  I would assume that that was the original Native Black.  Not sure enough to argue, but I don't argue anyway, LOL

Subject: Is Scotts Black = LSU Black ? Replies: 48
Posted By: dkirtexas Views: 2,949
 
One thing for sure...the LSU Scott's Black has a RED inside!

Anything without the Red is not true to type, and may be a Black, a Late Black, A St Gabriel, or a Native Black, or an Italian Black.  The Native Black and the Italian Black are from Becnel and could be the same fig, I don't know.

The Scott's Black is a great performer in production, rooting, and growth.  It is also a very good tasting fig.

Subject: Merry Christmas Replies: 15
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Wishing a Merry Christmas to all.

Please take a moment to think of those who cannot be with there families because they are the defenders of our way of life which maintains our right to celebrate this special time.

God Bless and protect those who go in harm's way.

Subject: Weather report - Edited Replies: 5
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Texas is hot, in places.  From my house, which 2 miles west of the Louisiana border, to El Paso, the western border is 805 miles.  North to south Texas in right at 1000 miles, so we have a very diverse climate.

My greenhouse is partially shaded, intentionally, I use it as a shade house in summer.  I may have those temperatures in the summer, I did not have it fully erected in the summer.  I did install fans and have 36" high operable doors going full length on both sides.  I really don't think I will need the solar heaters very often, I am really building the solar system as an experiment.  I really have not figured out what I am doing, LOL.

Right now it is 27f outside and 68f in the greenhouse.


Subject: Weather report - Edited Replies: 5
Posted By: dkirtexas Views: 95
 
Current weather 22f/54% humidity, high today 40f
Greenhouse 50f/75% humidity (14x24x10ft) too tall, heating with 155,000BTU diesel shop heater

Forecasters said it would be 27f, they lied, LOL, they really don't know much about forecasting cold weather down here.

Hope to maintain nighttime 50f all winter, I would like 40f, but I can't seem to get thermostat to cooperate.  I intend to build solar heater for daytime heating, probably will not get done this winter.

EDIT-
I would like to hear from those that have greenhouses/high/low tunnels on how they are heating and what kind of temperature/humidity you are experiencing.  The sizes would also be interesting.

Subject: Bidding on Ebay. Replies: 12
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Google Translate -  https://translate.google.com/

Subject: Why do fig need to go dormant? Replies: 28
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For optimum production and growth 8 hrs light, natural or artificial, is not enough, whether they are in ground or in pots.  Doug is absolutely correct in his assessments.  My cuttings in cups under lights totally out perform cuttings in cups that are not lighted.  I believe you gain a whole season of growth by using lights.  I also have found that the mortality rate of smaller cuttings is much lower than those grown without lights, Winter or Summer.

I grow trees to sell and a tree that is 3 seasons old is worth more money than a tree that has been growing 2 seasons.


Not debating, only stating the results I have had.


Subject: Why do fig need to go dormant? Replies: 28
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The question of dormancy seems to come up every year.  The most common, and correct, answer to chill hour questions is that figs DO NOT REQUIRE CHILL HOURS.  In tropical zones, figs grow year round and typically are everbearing.  I have kept trees for three years through the winter under lights, 12 hrs on/off and they have not lost leaves, these lights are not grow lights but old fashioned florescent shop lights.  The key is to keep the lights as close to the leaves as possible and I normally move them under the lights before they start turning their leaves.  I keep the temp at 75-80f.  They don't break dormancy, the never go dormant.  If you don't have a greenhouse or a "grow" room it is less successful.  A closet works very well as a "grow" room.

Subject: Selling my collection. Replies: 14
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Too George's point,

Managing a lot of trees can be a lot of work, I just finished bringing in over 150 potted trees and 200 cups, annual dance of a fig tree grower.  Luckily, I had my greenhouse almost completed.  The potted trees "probably" would be okay if left out but I wanted to insure having good trees in the early Spring.

I have had 3 calls to come and look at "collections" (2 fig, 1 Mayhaw) to see if I wanted to buy them, funny thing, all calls were in November.  I would imagine that this has happened to many people and in one of the cases, they were simply left to die from neglect, piled up and burned.

Over in the Tyler Texas area there is an in ground fig orchard that covers 12-15 acres and has not been touched in 15 yrs, when the owner passed away.  Most of these trees have survived because of good dirt, and sufficient rain.  The man used to pick figs every day and sell them at the Dallas Farmers Market.  All this was told to me by a son of the man.

Think of how many newbies we see show up on he forum, get a lot of cuttings/trees and soon are no longer seen around any more, what happened to their "collections" ?.

Too bad that there isn't a fig shelter where unwanted trees could be dropped off.

The price for the "collection" listed in this thread seems like a good deal when compared to retail prices in my area.

Subject: Randino Replies: 54
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Walmart
Sharpie brand

Subject: Problem with Fig leaves Replies: 4
Posted By: dkirtexas Views: 193
 
Edgard - You might try a search on "Fig leaf problems".  I would make a guess that every possible problem with fig leaves are probably covered in previous posts.

Subject: Cuttings Sale. All prices reduced. Replies: 58
Posted By: dkirtexas Views: 3,108
 
Why were the other 2 links deleted?  There were 2 other links in the original posting, 1 showing a LSU Gold, and 1 showing a Scott's Yellow.

The pictures that you have left after your edit were only in 1 of the links.

Subject: Freezing in Louisiana Replies: 30
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I think Brunswick.

Subject: Cuttings Sale. All prices reduced. Replies: 58
Posted By: dkirtexas Views: 3,108
 
Richie - Are we looking at the same pictures?  The Links are all titled Scott's Yellow and none of the 3 links that I am seeing has titles under the pictures.  In my opinion, the only one that looks like the Scott's Yellow is the second one.  The first one looks like a LSU Gold (Squat with Flat bottom)

Subject: Cuttings Sale. All prices reduced. Replies: 58
Posted By: dkirtexas Views: 3,108
 
The links provided for the Scott's Yellow look like 3 different figs.  The green fig is not even close to the Scott's Yellow.

Subject: Freezing in Louisiana Replies: 30
Posted By: dkirtexas Views: 395
 
In my opinion - Not Black Mission.
Totally wrong leaf.

Subject: Frost on my Figs Replies: 3
Posted By: dkirtexas Views: 149
 
Had a very light freeze here in NE Texas.  Temp was down around 31-32f for an hour or so.  The main thing have seen in the past with this scenario is the light frost will pretty much force dormancy which is not a bad thing.  I had an extremely large late crop of figs and of course they will all fall off.  Too bad, the forecast for the rest of the month is all 60's-70's and they would probably have made it if it had not been for the light frost.

I had moved all my young and tender trees into the greenhouse so they are all fine.

Subject: Source for Fig wasp found Replies: 17
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I would urge an extremely cautious approach to introducing alien species to any area.

There are reasons that they are not there and the potential harm from importing could be great.  Check with your local Extension Office before doing any importing.

Maybe I am too cautious but I urge at least some effort of investigation prior to doing anything.

Subject: Fig Wasps in Texas?? Replies: 6
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There are plenty of great figs that do not need the wasp.

Subject: Rooting cuttings in pan vs 3 cup system Replies: 5
Posted By: dkirtexas Views: 233
 
The "Pan" method works very well with plastic shoe boxes with the key being barely damp potting mix and put them in, and LEAVE THEM ALONE for 2-3 wks.  They gain nothing by you opening the lid and looking.  You can see the roots through the clear shoe box when they develop.  When they have a good root ball I take them straight to 1 gallon pots. 

Subject: do extra huge cuttings root ? Replies: 6
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I have rooted several cuttings that were 2"-2 1/2" in diameter and have had the best luck with starting with longer cuttings with some being 3 ft long.  I use 5 gal buckets and bury the cutting as deep as possible.  I usually leave the cutting in the bucket for 2 yrs or until someone wants it more than me, LOL.

Subject: Are Roots Left Behind After Potting Good for Anything? Replies: 11
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A member that has not been around for a while had luck in grafting the roots to cuttings.

As usual, I would recommend doing a search for the previous threads relating to "Root grafting"

Subject: OT---Florida Grove/Bird Pepper EDIT-picture added Replies: 9
Posted By: dkirtexas Views: 195
 
Danny,
I am familiar with the Bahamian pepper as I lived on Andros Island 1978-81.  I grew up in Florida and my Grandfather was a Grove Manager and brought the peppers home from the groves.  I started and grew a couple in Florida but when I moved to Texas I left them behind.  The new property owner had small children and took them out so I cannot get them.  I have found that growing peppers from seed is indeed hard to do.  If I get 25% I consider it a wonderful result with most common being 5-10%.  I am currently growing Habanero, Scotch Bonnet, Serrano, Anaheim, and Fooled You Jalapeno.

Thank you for the offer but I am looking for the Florida strain.

Rgrds,
Danny K

Subject: OT---Florida Grove/Bird Pepper EDIT-picture added Replies: 9
Posted By: dkirtexas Views: 195
 
I am looking for the pepper plant seeds that grow in the citrus groves in Florida.  If you have been around Florida for a while you might know what I am talking about.  I would like either seeds or dried peppers for the seeds.  I will trade cuttings for these peppers/seeds.

HOT! Florida Grove Pepper Seeds From 100% Organic Plants SUPER HOT!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/HOT-Florida-Grove-Pepper-Seeds-From-100-Organic-Plants-SUPER-HOT-/251269683922?var=&hash=item3a80d71ad2:m:m0NvIaLRdCvluVFNtUT5Cdw

I am not interested in any other peppers/seeds.

Thanks

Subject: OT- Using a post hole digger to plant trees Replies: 14
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A lot depends on the soils, or lack there of, LOL  North of Austin can be really rocky and that makes the use of an auger iffy.  We tried using one on the North side of 1431 and it was a real trial.  Every time you hit a rock it will kick up and the possibility of wedging a rock in the blade is a real possibility.