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Subject: Which Figs Do You Have In Ground Replies: 32
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I have currently have Alma, Hunt, Hardy Chicago, Col de Dame (white), Celeste, and Sal's EL in the ground --all about 4-6 years old.  A few more have been given away as not suitable for the climate.

Black Madeira, Peter's Honey, Enderub, Violette de Bordeaux, Marseilles Black VS, and Col de Dame Noir are in pots.

We got down to 10 F this year which was a little colder than normal for us. Just damage to last year's growth on most figs. Supposed to be 7b.

Subject: Relative cold damage Replies: 6
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After 2 significant drops in temperature this winter, I thought I would record the relative amount of damage to inground, unprotected figs. The inground figs are all about the same age, 4-6 years. All roots were protected by a 3 inch leaf mulch. The two lows were 10 F and 13 F both only for a matter of hours overnight. Damage seems to be limited to last year's new growth.

Hardy Chicago No damage.
Celeste Last year's new growth (8-15 inches) damaged
Sal's EL Last years new growth (3-8 inches) damaged
Hunt Last year's new growth (8-18 inches) damaged
Alma Last year's new growth (3-5 inches) damaged

Col de Dame inground, partially protected with tarp and lights on cold nights--new growth 3-10 inches damaged)

Subject: Best caprifigs for seed production and best for good tasting fruit? Replies: 52
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This is Enderub. Taste is nothing to write home about, very bland.
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Subject: What Makes Some Fig Varieties So Desirable Replies: 28
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Hi Shah,

I do get brebas from VdB, but they are just not as tasty as the main crop and I think they delay it, so I break them off.

Scott

Subject: What Makes Some Fig Varieties So Desirable Replies: 28
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I think that's right, Pete. Taste is the a lot of the issue and also availability. The season for me starts off in June with Peter's Honey breba, then August with the main crop of Hardy Chicago and Violette de Bordeaux (and others) then finishes up with Col de Dame and Black Madeira (as late as the end of November). Fig preserves for the winter.
Always looking for better. Peter'_Honey_Breba_best_split_6-22-08.JPGVdB and HC.JPGCDD cut 13.jpg  Black Mad Nov 20 Cut.jpg  


Subject: Question about Frozen Black Madeira Replies: 35
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I generally keep my larger black madeira in a pot on the deck until temperatures fall into the lower 20's, then into the garage. The pot will be frozen as hard as a rock. So far it has never even had frozen branches, but low temperatures here do not usually last that long (overnight and warm up the next day). Small figs go in the crawl space once temps hit the 20's. I am afraid to see what the 10 F temperature we had recently did to my unprotected in ground fig trees and pomegranates.

Subject: Late season Black Madeira Replies: 5
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One of the reasons I like this tree is it is not afraid to continue ripening figs. The leaves have been dropped due to frost for a couple of weeks. But the figs have continued to ripen. Last one today and still tasted great.Black Madeira Nov 20.jpg Black Mad Nov 20 Cut.jpg 

Subject: Black Madeira... oh boy.. Replies: 18
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Just ate a ripe Black Madeira. Two more to go and this year is over. They aren't as good as they were a month ago, but still awesome.

Subject: "HUNT"....Varietal Information, Opinions, and Sources Replies: 8
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B. W. Hunt for Benjamin Weeks Hunt from Eatonton, Georgia. He bred a few plants that have his name including this fig in the early 1900's. I have one. It is fairly vigorous, but not my favorite fig. Like a large Celeste with an elongated neck. It is apparently a Green Ischia Cross, though he did try pollinating Celeste and Brown Turkey and supposedly got other crosses from them.


"One of the most enthusiastic breeders of figs in the southern United States was B. W. Hunt (1911, 1912) of Eatonton, Georgia. For female parents he
used Brown Turkey, Green Ischia, and Celeste, and for pollen he first resorted to local seedling caprifigs. Later he obtained blastophagas which
effected pollination of the edible figs available. One of his main objectives was to produce a fig with a peduncle long enough to hang downwards and
thus to shed rain away from the eye. His seedling fig, the Hunt, a cross of Green Ischia with pollen from California, has the desired character, is larger
than Celeste, but is too tender to ship well as a fresh fruit.

Both Hunt in Georgia and Tanikawa in Japan split open the apex of the fig and introduced pollen on the point of a knife blade."

Scott

Subject: F4FF OPEN AUCTION: Black Madeira Replies: 33
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For North Georgia. I have this fig in a large pot. My practice is to leave potted figs (VdB, Black Madeira, Peter's Honey, CDD, Enderub) on the deck as long as the temperatures are not below the high 20's. I begin to get a little nervous in the low 20's and slide them into an unheated garage. I bring them back out when the cold snap is over. The soil in the fig pots is often as hard as a rock. I haven't noticed Madeira being especially cold sensitive here, but we haven't had a cold winter lately.

Scott

Subject: PIX: Col de Dame Blanc-first "wow" fig of the yr. Replies: 28
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Hi Tam,

Here are three shots of leaves, Mother tree, one year old cutting, new cutting. CDD blanc UC Davis/USDA Wolfskill origin.

Hi Pete,

  Both of them are really good. To my taste, here. CDD has a wonderful berry jam taste, straight, bright berry. Black Madeira also has berry elements, I think the taste is more complex.  I'm not sure I can describe it well. Berry with a little port wine taste, maybe. I wouldn't turn either one down. I like the way you let your CDD fully ripen to get the best flavor. A lot of the flavor develops in the last couple of days.
CDD 13.jpg CDD.jpg CDD09.jpg 
Scott


Subject: PIX: Col de Dame Blanc-first "wow" fig of the yr. Replies: 28
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CDD blanc grows well here and has fruited for a couple of years I think. Very good, but only has a few figs every year so far. Will not touch the taste or productivity of a Black Madeira here, yet. CDD's advantage here is that it can really take the rain (2011 fig here after 4 days in rain plus a 2013 fig). Black Madeira will swell and leak red fluid, but CDD has that tight eye.

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Subject: Ronde de Bordeaux Replies: 15
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Martin will never tell what secret herbs and spices he uses to get his trees to grow so well.

Subject: Caprification and accelerated ripening? Replies: 6
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I injected the pollen in the opening at the bottom of the fig after worming the tip of a plastic 12cc syringe and part of a large hypodermic needle up in it. I used another smaller hypodermic needle stuck through the side of the fig to relieve the air pressure. After injecting the pollen in, I put some duct tape over the opening. The figs changed color and began to swell within a week. A week later they ripened. The other figs on the tree show no signs of ripening although they were the same size as the ones I tried to pollinate. A few seeds from these figs sank, but not nearly as many as some of my other attempts earlier in the year.

Subject: Black Madeira CONTEST Replies: 69
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That was a good trade for me, too, Martin. Sal's EL -among others-I'm eating one now.

Subject: Caprification and accelerated ripening? Replies: 6
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Yes, they tasted great.

Subject: Caprification and accelerated ripening? Replies: 6
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I attempted to pollinate these  two Col de Dame (blanc) two weeks ago. This is a fig that usually ripens very late here. Both were ripe today, but the unpollinated figs have not enlarged or ripened. So my question is does caprification normally speed ripening?
CDD caprified 13 small.jpg CDD cut 13 small.jpg


Subject: Black Maderia vs Ronde de Bordeaux Replies: 42
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My two cents. I don't have RdB, but I really like Black Madeira. Productive, late, good tasting and stands up pretty well to rain. Needs a lot of sun and fertilizer. I haven't found fig mosaic to be a problem here. I can't wait for this year's...

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Subject: Black Madeira CONTEST Replies: 69
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Just a comment on Black Madeira in the Southeast and rooting BM cuttings. This is a great fig here, ripens late and misses a lot of the rain. Superb taste, productive, and dependable.
 I have not found it hard to root cuttings from this fig. I probably have 8 or 9 from cuttings this spring and only 2 or 3 cuttings that didn't root. No suicide here (so far). 

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Subject: Updated on my VdB=negronne issue Replies: 34
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I also have a Vdb/Negronne sourced from Edible Landscaping 2 branches have mostly 'mulberry' type leaves (these branches get less sun). The rest have the typical long fingers. I have 5 plants started this year from this fig; 3 have the long fingers, 2 have the mulberry leaf. they are all about a 18" high. I bet in time yours will produce the long fingered leaves.

Scott

Subject: ... a bad girl ... Replies: 20
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Blue muddauber wasps eat primarily black widow spiders, so I'm pretty tolerant about their nests.

Subject: Self Pollinating Replies: 5
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Looking at Enderub figs (edible caprifig) this year when collecting pollen from them--I noticed lots of pollen distributed inside the fig and the seeds were very hard, like caprified fig seeds. Will these figs pollinate themselves? I neglected to save the seeds, although I know where I threw the figs in case any seedlings sprout.

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Subject: OT - Zombie Poms Replies: 42
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OT Zombie poms. Persianmd2's uncle was dead on. I transplanted a big pomegranate (poorly) in the heat of summer and it dropped all its leaves. This spring it still did not leaf out although there was some green under the bark, it appeared dead. Just started leafing out this week--that's over a year since it had any leaves.

Subject: UCD Col de Dame Replies: 7
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Hi Tom,

The small trees here, one started this year and one last year are from the other tree a UCDavis Col de Dame.
It has several different leaf types.

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Subject: Col de Dame Blanche UCD. Replies: 39
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Wow, Axier, now that is a fig tree! It makes my largest UCD CDD Blanc look so spindly. It's always good to see your posting since you have so much experience with these trees. I learn something every time. Your website is great, too.

Scott

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Subject: Protecting a fig Replies: 51
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I use aluminum soda cans cut in half lengthwise with a little hole at each end for the branch and a trap door in the middle so I can check the fig. Cut in the can sealed back together with duct tape. Effective for birds and squirrels. After one fig is ripe, move to the next ripening fig. Also very attractive.

Scott

Subject: Col de Dame Blanche UCD. Replies: 39
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Tom,

Here is one of this year's CDD cuttings sprouting. No fertilizer yet, apart from what is in the planting mix. Kept very dry, hardly watered, and not in full sun yet.

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Subject: Col de Dame Blanche UCD. Replies: 39
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Hey TMC,

Just a thought, for what it is worth. Here is my CDD start from last year--now 38" above the top of the pot. My thought would be for you gradually to add a little fertilizer (whatever kind) and maybe a bit of pelletized lime. My favorite mix for the young plants is 6-8 granules of 10-10-10, a pinch of epson salts (only once or twice a season), and a few more granules of pelletized lime 3-4 times a season. I do like a little bark to loosen up the potting mix, full sun (gradually increasing every day until it can stand full sun), and letting the soil nearly dry out before watering. CDD really likes the sun.

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Subject: What are the top five Black figs for the hot and humid SE? Replies: 37
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Try this link for an answer green fig...

http://figs4funforum.websitetoolbox.com/post/Marseilles-black-vsBreba!-5443916


Subject: Col de Dame Blanche UCD. Replies: 39
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I cut my UCD CDD Blanc back to about 8 feet tall and planted it in the ground. It has been a shy bearer, but the berry taste and the ability to stand up to the rain make it worth it.

Subject: What are the top five Black figs for the hot and humid SE? Replies: 37
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What may work here may not work well in Pensacola, but Hardy Chicago and Sal's EL, which are really brown-purple are very good here and stand up to rain fairly well. Violette de Bordeaux is great tasting, but doesn't produce as heavy a crop for me. Black Madeira is very late bearing, so avoids a lot of our fall rains, tastes great and bears large numbers of figs. Celeste is a Southeastern classic, small great tasting fig, but it is not black. Italian black (Black Italian) is supposed to be good (Durio and our local nursery has it). Marseilles Black VS might be good (not bearing here yet--I hope my cuttings make it as this fig is constantly described as one of the better tasting).

Subject: Brebas and Birds Replies: 26
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Glad that works, Joe. I have to split aluminum soda cans, make a little cut out for the branch to go through and tape back together with duct tape over the figs. Allows you to eat 'dead ripe' figs without the birds pecking them. It's very attractive.

Scott

Subject: What Varieties Do You Grow ? Replies: 60
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Hi Womack,

The in ground CDD was just fine this spring and is leafing out well. Occasionally, I will pinch trees if it looks like the figs are still too green in late fall. I don't routinely pinch everything. The Hardy Chicago on the southeast side of the house will put on figs till a hard frost, so it may need pinching.

Subject: _____ FIG JAM Knowledge Sharing ____ Replies: 41
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When I make fig jam or preserves, there is usually some left over when the jars are filled that I just refrigerate. I usually eat it before it sticks around too long, but in the fridge they last more than a month. I've really never had any go bad.

Scott

Subject: OT - Zombie Poms Replies: 42
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Goss,

I only got one cutting of Parfyanka and I killed it, never got it to root.

Subject: OT - Zombie Poms Replies: 42
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All three pomegranates that I have are young plants ( 5 years this year) in the ground for 2 years now, I think. Ink has not leafed out yet this year although there is still green under the bark (I moved it during the summer last year). The other one from UC Davis is Koine (Koinekasyrskii Kislosladkii Krasnyi). It hasn't fruited yet. The third is a cutting given to me that originated from an old tree up by Hartwell (the owner said it was a large tree that she estimated at 40 years, I haven't seen it). It has fruited for me and she brings me a big basket of pomegranates from the mother tree every year. It may be wonderful or some other variety. Fully ripe, the skin is kind of orange and the arils are dark red--sweet sour taste.


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Subject: Still available cuttings for exchange Replies: 16
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Wonderful pictures. Pawpaws are normally pollinated by carrion flies (and beetles) here, but not efficiently. The flowers are not designed to attract bees as they are flesh colored, point downwards, and smell like carrion. The old books would recommend hanging carcasses of small animals in the trees to attract carrion flies. Not the way to charm the neighbors.

Subject: OT - Zombie Poms Replies: 42
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Hi Tami,

Really simple. Pomegranate juice. About 1/2 cup sugar for 4 cups juice (more sugar for really tart juice) and a little lemon juice. Cook on low heat, stirring occasionally, until it thickens and reduces in volume more than half. Put hot syrup in hot jars, add new lid and ring. Place in a boiling water bath 10 minutes. Or you can just keep the syrup refrigerated. Warning, depending on the pomegranate can be sweet and tart.

Subject: OT - Zombie Poms Replies: 42
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I'm still eating pomegranate syrup I made last year. They take a little work, but are worth it. I have two trees that I started from UCD cuttings (Ink and Koinekasyriskii). The Parfianka that I got didn't make it. Wear old clothes when you seed them and do it outside.

Subject: black madeira and Zone 7b/8a Replies: 5
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My Black Madeira has been in a pot on the deck for the last few years here in North Georgia. I have taken it into the garage if the temperature dropped into the lower 20's or below, usually for just a day or two, then back out on the deck. I've never had any cold damage on it. I would want a tree planted out to be several years old.

Subject: Fig cultivars cold hardeness , differences!? Replies: 29
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Very good points Bob. Nice to hear an expert opinion. The Georgia State Botanical garden has a fig that demonstrates your 8th point. The fig is planted on the South side of a several story building close to the building's wall. In this climate, there shouldn't be significant freeze damage in this climate and the north surfaces of the limbs are undamaged, but the south surfaces of the limbs are badly damaged.

Southern exposures are great for summer ripening, but bad for maintaining winter dormancy.

Scott

Subject: Hative d'Argenteuil Fig Replies: 45
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Someone posted an article in French about fig growing in the Argenteuil area. As I remember, it suggested they could be using specialized growing techniques.

Subject: What Varieties Do You Grow ? Replies: 60
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Hi Womack,

I'm not sure how hardy I can say it is. It's in the ground now as of last fall. Until then was in a pot on the deck since 2009, I think. I know it has survived 20 F in a pot (just for a matter of hours)--if it was going below 20, I would usually slide it in the garage. I wanted it to get pretty big before I put it in the ground.

I haven't had a problem with loss of figs due to cold temperatures here (yet), but we haven't had a cold winter in a while--I'm north of Atlanta, but not too far. This winter wasn't much of a test, though even the 2 foot CdD I have in a pot on the deck never went into the garage. I have been known on really cold nights to string in the ground trees up with Christmas lights and throw a tarp over them.

Scott

Subject: Genovese Nero and Ronde dB. Replies: 6
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Fear (of the white figs) is the path to the dark side...    :D

Subject: What Varieties Do You Grow ? Replies: 60
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Hi Shah

I tend to cull (give away) ones that don't do well in the rain or aren't great tasting (to my taste) because I don't have unlimited room.

Hunt is a keeper although it tastes like a large Celeste right now. Alma has not done well for me yet. It produces a lot, but is just not good tasting (yet). If it doesn't produce, it goes down the road (there is a guy just down the road that will take it, he has my Mary Lane).

Subject: OT-Does anyone grow mushrooms?? Replies: 6
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I grow Shiitakes, but producing mycelia is beyond me. Have to put the spores in autoclaved media and then autoclaved grain. They will put out an impressive spore print if you leave them on the counter. They also grow well in the deep shade under fig trees.

Subject: What Varieties Do You Grow ? Replies: 60
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Just a hobby.

Hunt, Peter's Honey, Black Madeira, Violette de Bordeaux, Hardy Chicago, Celeste, Alma, Sal's EL, Col de Dame (white), Enderub. Rooting Ronde de Bordeaux, Marseilles Black VS. In ground and in pots.

Subject: UC Davis Ischia Black Replies: 34
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It can get pretty confusing for some of us Harvey. The land at Wolfskill (near Winters, CA) was donated to and is owned by the University of California at Davis--some of that land is under long term lease to the USDA for the National Clonal Germplasm Repository at Davis (one of 32 NCGRs in the US). The rest of the land at Wolfskill is used by UC Davis Department of Plant Sciences.

Your point is a good one. The fig and pomegranate cuttings that we get from the NCGR at Davis are prepared and shipped by these US Department of Agriculture employees (http://www.ars.usda.gov/Aboutus/aboutus.htm?modecode=53-06-20-00), not anyone employed by UC Davis.

They deserve the recognition (and a round of applause) for the excellent work that they do maintaining and distributing this collection. 

Subject: What's your fastest growing cutting this year? Replies: 18
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Black Madeira and Col de Dame were both vigorous rooters this year. I had trouble with Violette de Bordeaux for some reason.

Subject: Giant Loquat Replies: 27
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That's a big one. Mine are about half that size if I don't thin them. They make a great jam. This far north they don't keep their fruit all winter every year but this looks like a good year.