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Subject: Quick one - grape help Replies: 20
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The one with the larger teeth around the leaf does not look like my Reliance or my Himrod, but mine are small and have not fruited yet, and just assuming they were labeled true.

 One excellent source of info  on bunch grapes is Lon J. Rombough site    http://www.bunchgrapes.com  he is the NAFEX Interest Group coordinator and one of the foremost  authors and authorities on grapes. He has both pictured and as a grape specialist you can be pretty sure he has the correct cultivar pictured, unlike a lot of general nursery photos


Subject: Grape Cuttings Replies: 28
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Jason,

I have a Concord Seedless that probably could have a few cuttings removed.  Actually its still in a pot and I have not read real favorable reviews on it, I'd love to trade it for some fig. I also have Reliance, Catawaba, Concord and Mars in pots.  Mars is better all-around than Concord Seedless. I think I have one Himrod but it is a real small weak plant.

Subject: Pawpaw Replies: 98
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Here is the main Kentucky state link. They are the  USDA National Clonal Germplasm Repository or gene bank, for Asimina species (pawpaw), so they are kind of like UC Davis for figs, but I don't believe you can request Scion wood, but there is a lot of cultural info on the site
http://www.pawpaw.kysu.edu/

Subject: Pawpaw Replies: 98
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Ken,

Sorry The seeds did not make it. Yes the seeds would have been fresh and at least a start on stratification, not scarified. I don't remember when I sent them, they were probably gathered a little later in the year then present last year. If you did not give them additional cold stratification after I sent them that might have been the issue I usually leave them in slightly moist peat/sand until around Feb and they no take forever to germinate. I don't recall when they were sent. At least one patch I visit had no fruit this year, I have not have made to the other patch yet, It's about 1 1/2 hour away and I may be to late regardless.  

 

 I someone wants a year jump some of the State Forestry depts. do have Papaws in their seedling programs if someone was interested in a quantity of non-grafted seedlings, and at least some of them are made available to out of state. They are small conservation grade seedlings, but they are cheap. In the Kentucky Forestry offering it lists 10 seedlings for $24 dollars shipped, or I think $50-$60  for a 100 seedlings. I would get them from Kentucky as their seedlings are from the pawpaw orchards at Kentucky State University who is probably the leading force in the development of new pawpaw cultivars, They also just hosted the Third International Pawpaw Conference I think this past weekend. There is as well is a Yahoo discussion group for Papaws I have linked below as well.

 

http://www.pawpaw.kysu.edu/PawpawSeedlings.htm

 

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Pawpaw_Discussion/

 

 



Subject: Wter barrel with floating sunflowers seeds Replies: 20
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I just use a 30 Gal standard size trash barrel, with the board across. I usually remove our bird feeder for a few days and place this in the same area.  I thought about using a single sheet newspaper or maybe a thin plastic under the seed to keep them from sinking and looking wet, but I never tried it. A few years ago I probably disposed of a least a dozen in less than a week. I didn’t care for the task, but the damage they were inflicting had to stop. I actually am afraid I have created a locally super race of squirrels.  All the stupid stand still and get shot or go swimming. The smarts live to reproduce; because of recent it  did not work as well.  I actually set up one with the deeper type bucket at one time and that is a tricky getting the water deep enough but not so they can reach down, it is better going with the full size trash barrel or such, as I doubt an escapee would make the same mistake. The key I think is setting up where they frequent and that small sampling of seeds on the board.


Subject: Wter barrel with floating sunflowers seeds Replies: 20
Posted By: strudeldog Views: 2,356
 
sorry that was the wrong thread link
http://figs4funforum.websitetoolbox.com/post?id=5162422

Subject: Wter barrel with floating sunflowers seeds Replies: 20
Posted By: strudeldog Views: 2,356
 
Not sure if it was my post you were refering to but that is the BOD "Bucket Of Death"  I was referencing to in the squirell damage thread. I did not want to go into a lot of detail, because  prior time I posted on it I got spamed and spoofed I assume by some animal rights folks because I received thousands of emails as well a XXX email sent out to everyone on another forum list I below to sent from "MY EMAIL"  or maybe it was Squirell themsleves extracting revenege on me because I have found the BOD very effective
  http://figs4funforum.websitetoolbox.com/search?searchid=12761329&showas=post&userid=1459686

Subject: squirrel damage Replies: 30
Posted By: strudeldog Views: 1,327
 
Actually as I read closer it seems they are just using your nice potting mix to bury things  and uprooting the current resident fig in the process, and not so much in eating your figs plants, and I have that problem as well. I tried the POP BonBons during that Fruit forum thread that Cathy posted, and do not believe it works as most folks concluded. The "bucket of death" can be effective, particullary if you  have sunflower seed normally out, and you remove the normal seed source and replace with your BOD for a few days.

Subject: squirrel damage Replies: 30
Posted By: strudeldog Views: 1,327
 
Jason,
Are you sure it is Squirrels? I hate them with a passion, and pay my son for each one he kills, but I have never had them mess with plants themselves. Fruit, vegtables, bulbs, yes, but the actually plant not that I am aware. Maybe I have been lucky. Did they actually eat any part or just pull it up and gnaw. If they are that hungry to eat fig bark you might have luck with the "bucket of death" approach. I won't go into detail but you can google it and I know the general fruit forum has some posting on it.

Subject: Pomegranates Replies: 48
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I  have 2nd year plants of Salavatski, Kazake, Angel Red still in pots. I am  letting  them size up one more year prior to planting out. I don't think Angel Red is that cold hardy, but Salavatski and Kazake are a couple of the Russian Cultivars that according to Bass, Harvey, and others are pretty cold tolerant.. I am trying to root cuttings from  Al-sirin-nar,  Lyubimyi (aka favorite),  Parfianka (aka Garnett Sash I beleive),  Kara-Kalinskii, and Ink. Lyubimyi is reportedly prety cold tolerant as well. Most of the more cold hardy cultivars seem to be of the harder seed types. I would be intrested if anyone knows of a cold hardy soft seed cultivar



Subject: What else do you grow? Replies: 106
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Much of my planting are young and not producing yet, and hoping I can still list some of these things after this winter.
21 Cultivar Blueberries
9 cultivar Bunch grapes
8 cultivars apples
7 cultivar pears European and Asian
7 cultivar Muscadines
7 cultivar Kaki Persimmon (doubling that this year)
6 cultivar Blackberries
4 cultivar Pomegranate
4 cultivar Pecan
4 cultivar Pawpaw
4 cultivar Kiwi
3 cultivar Raspberries
2 cultivar Jujube
2 cultivar black walnut
2 culivar Carpathion walnut
1 cultivar cherry
Trazel nuts
Nanking Cherry
Mulberry
Mayhaw
Heartnuts
Gooseberry
Chestnuts
Butternuts
6 cultivar Citrus in pots



Subject: DEER WARS Replies: 18
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Yes, that’s a bit far. You folks over there in Athens like your hedges, maybe you can get UGA to get rid of that nasty privet hedge and replace with a Fig one like yours.

 

I agree Suburban deer can easily get out of hand, I have never hunted them and half scared if my son gets one that I would have to help gut it. Besides the accidents they cause, in areas not hunted and with predation they can overpopulate their food sources and deseases as well become more of an issue for them. In some areas I believe they are a major contributor to decline of trillium and other wildflower populations.

 

Removal of them is often controversial, as they are impressive animals and some people never want to see anything harmed, but sometimes the conditions we create need fixing when things get out of balance and it’s really evident at this time of year as the population is more active moving about and with the crazed bucks chasing the does all about and across the roads.

 

 

Best Figs to you I will be watching Sports Center for your interview with Coach Richt on the new Fig Hedges.

 



Subject: DEER WARS Replies: 18
Posted By: strudeldog Views: 1,262
 

Correct,

I'm not saying a deer will never eat a fig, but that picture was a antler rub, The felt is gone by this time of year, but yes they do rub it off. Your fig was a basically a punching bag, A few years back a Japanese Maple I had sculpted/trained into a multi-trunk went from looking like 12 point to a button buck overnight. Where abouts in North Georgia are you located, if you are serious about wanting hunters, my son is always looking for a place to get his 1st deer, we are located in Hickory Flat just south of Canton. He actually just purchased a crossbow as he is finding the deer population is much larger in the protection of suburbia, than in the country, and the crossbow doesn't disrupt the neighbors at daybreak like the rifle does. That note about the buck runing into the hardware store is sure sign that rut (breeding season) is on, and over the next month or so really watch when you are driving, and notice all the road kills.

Subject: DEER WARS Replies: 18
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Yes the Rut is on in Georgia as of last week. Those bucks that for most the year are elusive  lose all their good sense when love is in the air.  They hit one of my Kaki persimmon this weekend. I have had more damage like this from antler rubs than actual eating. I don't think they actually probably even ate any of your fig just thrashed it to bits.

Subject: Pawpaw Replies: 98
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Rafed,

Most Pawpaw are not self-fertile, so you should plan on 2 trees. There a only a few that are self-fertile. The Sunflower cultivar that Bass is one of the self-fertile ones, but it is said to produce better with another cultivar planted as well. I have 4 cultivars that are young and not fruiting yet, but have access to some wild trees as well that fruit and the question about if a patch may not produce becuase they have all developed from same root system and are all one clone is very possible. If someone is intrested in some seeds to start I probably can still find a few. My wild trees don't produce very big fruit and are seedy, and I have been told Pawpaw come closer to coming true than many fruits from seed so unless you plan to graft them over. I would start with seed from a selected improved cultivar.

Subject: Georgia Fig from 1800s Replies: 12
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That seems to be it, I didn’t expect 100% consensus, but you all called them the same. I have a couple started plants of each.  I think the owner is going to prune them back next year so more of the fruit is within reach. Jeff, your pictures look more like my figs than my pictures, I am not very good either side of the camera, and really appreciate the photo’s.


Subject: Georgia Fig from 1800s Replies: 12
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I just posted and then saw Herman posted as well, so it seems very likely I will have a Marseilles white to go with the Marseilles VS black I purchased from you recently on Ebay. I am hoping I do better with those cuttings then I did with the Col De Dame and VDB I started from UC Davis this spring. I move them up to 1 Gal. recent and the leafs yellowed and dropping this past week and I am thinking too wet. The Marseilles VS black are not that far along yet, maybe they will benefit from my learning of on the UC Davis cuttings


Subject: Georgia Fig from 1800s Replies: 12
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Thanks Folks,

The Marseilles looks like a likely suspect for the light one, reading that it is a heirloom fig, the ribs which this fig does have, the ribbing is very pronounced on the immature fruit, and maybe these were not quiet ripe, but they were very soft, and moist. I thought the dark ones looked like Celeste myself. I am not going to label either one, other than Unknown, just curious about what they could likely be. Jeff that would be great if you could post a pic of your LSU fig, there is a crunch to the seeds, but I am not any sure more than the dark ones. I just ate the last light one, and the interior was still very light colored but softened even more almost to a jelly texture. Guess I need to go grab some more this weekend.



Subject: Georgia Fig from 1800s Replies: 12
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I think they are ripe Jason, but I may be wrong, The ones in the tree picture are not ripe  The ones on the plate are very soft and moist, drooping from the stem on the plant, and the birds and hornets were eating ones just like them. I ate a lot of them. Some of them may have been a little more yellow and the interior is a little darker than the picture looks. Maybe my palate is so not so discerning, and  a few days might have improved them. You are not far away I have read your post about checking out local trees downtown. These are about halfway between Alpharetta and Canton, you are welcome to check them out if you want. Thanks for the input on the dark ones


Subject: Georgia Fig from 1800s Replies: 12
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Hi,

Been reading this forum for a while, but  my 1st post. I normally hang out in a general fruit forum, as you Fig people seem a little Cult like to me, but I admit I did taste the Kool-Aid and I like it. I am in North Georgia and have about 6 six Fig cultivars, and quite a lot of other fruits. I started some plants from a Friend’s figs that have been in her family here locally a little NW of Metro Atlanta for a few generations.  I know you figheads probably get tired of identifying posts over and over, but the variation in the leaves of even the same tree seem to confuse me, The dark one they have always called Brown Turkey, but I know how generically that label has been used. It actually looks more similar to Celeste pictures to my novice eye. The light fig is the one I am more curious about. This is not the original plants I have pictured, they have been started from their prior home place, but she actually stated they have been in her family since the late 1800s. The plants do not receive good light, and in my opinion are overgrown and leggy, but are both maturing fruit right now. The dark one is sweeter than the light fig, but I find the both tasty. Thanks for any input, and I hope I am successful attaching the pictures.

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