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Subject: best greek fig (peloponnisiaka aspra sika) Replies: 34
Posted By: andreas Views: 3,219
 
@ greenfig
it is a fig that is known in the peloponnisos area...
peloponnisos is the part of greece that looks like a fig leaf.
there are many figs in greece that are known in other parts of the country
such as vavatsika, avgosika, mantzanosika and about 40 more that are well
known in parts of greece but you will not find them on google search. however you will find them 
in many books and papers on figs.
greeks dont care much about names of figs.
that is why you will find in most nurseries just 2 types mavra syka and aspra sika (no name black fig and noname white fig)
end every nursery probably does not sell the same black as mavra sika or the same white as aspra sika
you have to go to a realy good nursery to find named figs.

Subject: white greek (rare) tsapelosiko Replies: 18
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Subject: best greek fig (peloponnisiaka aspra sika) Replies: 34
Posted By: andreas Views: 3,219
 
@ HarveyC LOL!!!  ;-)))


@ greenfig πελοποννησιακα ασπρα συκα

Subject: best greek fig (peloponnisiaka aspra sika) Replies: 34
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HarveyC thank you.

Subject: best greek fig (peloponnisiaka aspra sika) Replies: 34
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@ otmani  thank you

@ kubota1 thank you

@ paully22 thanks i will post pictures on leaves first chance i get.

@ Suzi
oh God no please dont ask me to describe wine... LOL
my wife has made me go to too many of theese things
all i do is shake my head up and down and try to get a deep look in my eys... ;-))
i can tell you that i am 42 years old and have eaten figs all my life.
i sold the land that i had my figs in and bought a new one.
this is the first fig that i went out to the nurseries to look for.
not the world famous vasilika sika (black or white)
it took some time but i now have one.
as far as taste goes ill give it a try.rich,with some crunch because of the seeds.
a bouquet of flavors that stays with you long after you are done.

@Rich  i will take it to a nersery ant try to find the info for you.
i hope i can help.

@ Tyler thank you.

@ Rewton no it does not require the wasp

@ waynea thank you

Subject: best greek fig (peloponnisiaka aspra sika) Replies: 34
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@ Eli
i will try to get a picture for you so you can compare leafs.

@  Enigma
thank you (patrida) ;-))

Subject: best greek fig (peloponnisiaka aspra sika) Replies: 34
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@ Francisco
thank you my friend.
i like them 2-3 more days past this point but my 6year old boy never lets them get there.
i like to see the honey out the eye. it is not at this point yet.

@pino this is the main crop
and to me it is the best tasting greek fig by far.
much better than the famous vasilika sika

Subject: best greek fig (peloponnisiaka aspra sika) Replies: 34
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this is my favorite greek white fig 
it needed more time on the tree but my kid didnt want to wait... ;-))

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Subject: white greek (rare) tsapelosiko Replies: 18
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@ jdsfrance

i will try to get better pictures
as far as the fig goes it is one of the types that gets dried and sold as dry fig
it does not spoil quickly
but most nurseries cant sell it unless they buy a licence.

Subject: white greek (rare) tsapelosiko Replies: 18
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@ chivas
it gets much better... ;-))



@ Aaron
i will work on that. but some times my 6 year old boy picks them
i am lucky to get the pictures... 

@ Tyler
thank you

Subject: white greek (rare) tsapelosiko Replies: 18
Posted By: andreas Views: 1,185
 
this is a rare greek fig named tsapelosiko
it is very sweet and with a beautyful bouquet of flavours.
the figs needed 3 more days on the tree so the pulp would get darker
and the flavor would get more intense.


 

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Subject: Inchario Preto - Our best fig ! Replies: 32
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Francisco they look awesome!!!

Subject: Mavra Vasilika Sika greek black Replies: 37
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@ Ed
i dont have to bother with quarentine laws (no one will check. public sector workers just dont care)
but the import tax is between 30-300% and you know that will be painfull.  ;-)

@Frank
i was in the states for 7 years (florida tampa bay area)
if i could have there what i have here, and most importantly
IF i could change my wifes mind (no luck so far)
yes i would change with you (but i would move back to florida)LOL
best of luck my friend.  Andreas

Subject: Mavra Vasilika Sika greek black Replies: 37
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@ Frank
the Internodal distances are at a minimum because the plant grew in traders pot with plain dirt... not potting mix or good soil.
i guess it was the cheapest way out for the nursery. 
you are right about the weather
we do have high light levels, full sun, and its warm.
we also have beatyfull islands... however the economy sucks... but its getting better LOL.

@waynea

the eye should stay small
but with the way i treat it, (((trying to get it to set very fast in the ground with every other day watering
and lots of pellet fertilizer)))
and all that in the last 7 days that it has gone to the ground
one can only guess what the outcome will be.


@ Enigma
hello my greek friend
if you have the same plant, i see no reason to expect anything less than a 10

 

Subject: Mavra Vasilika Sika greek black Replies: 37
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Subject: Mavra Vasilika Sika greek black Replies: 37
Posted By: andreas Views: 2,860
 
Hi Frank
its just some persons last name (rare greek last name) not like smith would be for you guys.  sorry to say it but you have a black greek fig ... (no name fig unknown)with the last name of the person that the cutting was taken from.
there is no translation on his lastname
can you show me some pictures,we might get lucky and find out the true name for you.
sorry if i burst your bubble

Subject: Mavra Vasilika Sika greek black Replies: 37
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@ Otmani007 
i think its about 2.5 years old

Subject: Mavra Vasilika Sika greek black Replies: 37
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figs are starting to turn color

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Subject: São Luis - A black Common with amber pulp Replies: 13
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very nice francisco!!!

Subject: Violeta (first experience in pot) Replies: 22
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very nice fig Francisco

Subject: Black Madeira Fig Video Review Replies: 32
Posted By: andreas Views: 1,223
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by RichinNJ
I still do not see why there is an overwhelming attraction for this fig. We have Battagglia and Negronne which are supposed to be some of the best. I would really like to grow all three to try them back to back.


Hi Rich
if you go through all the trouble to grow just to compare
i think its only fair to the test to add mavra vasilika sika ( black royal greek fig)
you might just find a new #1 fig on your list.
best of luck 
andreas

Subject: Cement vs. lime? Replies: 14
Posted By: andreas Views: 643
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by greenfig
It seems there is a lot of evidence of the vigorous and happy fig trees growing near the cement structures. The Alma sisters come to mind from the yesterdays post. Many people add the dolomitic lime to the soil to correct the soil acidity. I have discovered that it is not easy to find the proper lime while the cement is freely available at any hardware store. I was thinking to make small gravel size pieces out of cement and add to my pots. Any suggestions, thoughts, for or against this? I checked the formula of the cement and it seems there are no chemicals added so it should be safe to use.


if you do that you will lose your plants!!!
it will burn your roots.
i learned that the hard way.
i dont know if the cement here in greece is not the same as yours
but i do know that the company that makes it here in greece has bought out 2 major plants in the USA.
best of luck Andreas

Subject: Black Greek 7-25-14 Replies: 30
Posted By: andreas Views: 1,195
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by newnandawg
andreas, yes there a good many main crop fruits that are bigger than  a nickle now.


so its late august to september
ok thank you, i was just trying to identify the fig

Subject: Black Greek 7-25-14 Replies: 30
Posted By: andreas Views: 1,195
 
Looks great Mike. i am glad your tree came back to life.
now this is breba but does your tree have main fruits that have formed for the season?
best of luck with the rest.

Subject: Lebanese Red Bass 7-26-14 Replies: 6
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thanks for the photos, the info and for sharing Mike!

Subject: Progress Rooting UC Davis 2014 Order Replies: 11
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@ cyberfarmer
no it will not work on green cuttings.
yes you do have to water the area depending on the time of year and heat.
andreas from greece.  ;-)

Subject: Mavra Vasilika Sika greek black Replies: 37
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sure Francisco
any time... just send me a pm.
as far as the mavra and the melissi goes you are right
they both have deep red pulps.

Subject: Mavra Vasilika Sika greek black Replies: 37
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@ Tyler 
you have bought some great greek figs.
i hope next year you get to taste them

Subject: Mavra Vasilika Sika greek black Replies: 37
Posted By: andreas Views: 2,860
 
hi Mike thank you.
you guys have many greek figs in the states
and i guess that is what this forum is all about... helping other members get the figs they like.

Subject: Mavra Vasilika Sika greek black Replies: 37
Posted By: andreas Views: 2,860
 
hi
i just got this new plant today that went right in to the ground
but i wanted to share some photos of the fruit.
figs need about a month but this way you can have some before and after photos. IMG_2451.JPG  IMG_2453.JPG

Subject: Pic's Of Good Fig Needs To Be Id Replies: 5
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lampo
Very nice breba!
If it is of Greek origins may be our fellow members Andreas or Enigma, ..may be others could have the answer.

Francisco


sorry i am not sure i can help.
i will look in to it and ask some nurseries

Subject: VIOLETA aka FIGO PRETO aka BLACK MADEIRA Replies: 39
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Nice photos Francisco.
thanks for the info

Subject: Your favorite fig plants variety Replies: 10
Posted By: andreas Views: 1,004
 
mostly greek figs such as vasilika sika black, vasilika sika white,
and the very hard to find peloponnisiaka aspra and peloponnisiaka mavra and achaiko tragano

Subject: Fig Art! Replies: 35
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vasilika sika

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Subject: Exciting arival from Italia :) "Barbara & Marcos Fig" Replies: 58
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@ Aaron
my friend if this is what you like, i think you should come to greece in august...
great pictures!!!

Subject: VASILIKA SIKA FIG Replies: 15
Posted By: andreas Views: 2,786
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by lampo
Thank you Enigma for all the information.
This has been for me (I am very curious) a mystery if you like.
We read various pieces of information with generic descriptions of that cultivar  but fail to see pictures of the real fruit ! On some written material there are pictures not clearly associating images to text and the same pictures are found all over the Internet to show nice 'black figs'.

I decided to try and find out how could I buy some scions to root and/or graft them here and with some luck arrive at the real stuff,,, will keep pushing

As for the W/cup thank you  and hope Fernando may save the honors !

Francisco

fernando who??? i am guessing you are not talking about
fernando santos. am i right?

Subject: VASILIKA SIKA FIG Replies: 15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Aaron4USA
they are both excellent varieties :)

@budihartono71, The 1st picture looks very inviting, thanks for sharing.

Vasilika Sika means Royal Figs
Vasilika Melissa means Royal HoneyBee


hi i am andreas from greece.
sorry for budding in but
you are both right and wrong.
Vasilika = Royal       Sika = Figs
Vasilika Melissa means Royal HoneyBee ... Melissa = HoneyBee
BUT MELISSI like it says on the photo is a color for the outside of the fig, and it means honey like color on the outside.

now i am sorry to say but the fig in the photo is not vasilika syka...
it has the wrong leaf and the inside of the fig is not dark red enough.

there are 3 types of vasilika figs (sika or syka is just the word for fig in greek)
vasilika mavra (black)
vasilika aspra (white)
and vasilika melissi (the skin is the color of honey)

Subject: Store Bought Figs Replies: 15
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@ m5allen
hi i just noticed that you are from st.pete
the best thing for you to do is to invest in a 45-50 minute trip to tarpon springs.
try to find local greeks and ask for greek fig tree cuttings. they may not know the type so they will call them mavra (for black) and aspra (for white)
if you get lucky enough you will never eat a mission again in your life!!!
best of luck. andreas

Subject: Vasilika Sika Replies: 54
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tylerj
Hello Andreas,

I wondered if you were familiar with these greek figs and what your thoughts are on their quality??

Markopoulou
Markopoulou Mavra
Lamvardou Green

I've recently added them to my collection but likely won't see any figs until next year at the earliest.
Tyler


hi Tyler
if and when you find the time can you please add a photo of your lomvardou green?
thank you
andreas

Subject: Vasilika Sika Replies: 54
Posted By: andreas Views: 8,011
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by leon_edmond
So Francisco:
I have a question then. In your area, how do you know which fig varieties do not need the fig wasp for pollinating?


hi
sorry for budding in, but i would like to say that even the ones that do not need
the fig wasp, benefit greatly by it.
again sorry for budding in.
by the way i think you have a great looking and probably tasting fig.
very nice and healthy plant

Subject: Vasilika Sika Replies: 54
Posted By: andreas Views: 8,011
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by newnandawg
Hello Andreas, I have a Vasilika Sika plant that was killed back to the ground this past winter. It is just starting to come back from the roots.
Would you be able to tell which variety it is from the leaves once it produces some nice leaves?


hi Mike
i am sorry to say but all 3 kinds of vasilika figs have almost identical leaves.
i would think that if they didnt they would not be related.

Subject: Vasilika Sika Replies: 54
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Tyler i am very happy to hear that you have v. mavra and melissi they are awesome!!!
you should try to find the vasilika aspra at some point... you will not regret it.
i do hope that what you have does not look like the plant that is shown on post number 8
i am sorry to say that that plant is not vasilika sika.

Subject: Vasilika Sika Replies: 54
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lampo
Hi Andreas,

It's very kind of you. Thank you very much.
I live in the south of Portugal near Faro ( old city Ossonoba apparently founded 1500 BC by Phoenicians traders). These guys may have brought in the first figs.
We grow a good deal of varieties of all types, all tempered by Caprifig wasps freely distributing fig pollen all over.
Do you grow figs ? Are you based in Greece ? I am in fact interested in completing the Vassilika family and in this regard I shall send you a PM or email.

Once we live in a free fig community and if you are interested I can send local Portuguese fig scions.
we also have good Common, Smyrna and San Pedro varieties.

cheers
Francisco


 i am in greece and i just grow some local figs for fun.
 i have never used scions,i guess it could be fun... figs trees are not that expensive here they are about 15-18 euros for a 2 year old tree... so i just go and get the type that i like.
as for the wasp.
wasps go to figs just because of the honey that drips off the eye of the fig. what makes the difference is a small bug named Blastophaga grossorum.
let me know if you need any more help

Subject: Vasilika Sika Replies: 54
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hello Tyler
Markopoulou &
Markopoulou Mavra are figs that sellers grow because they ship better than tha vasilika kind.
i am sorry to say that they are good but not as good as vasilika sika
as far as lomvardou goes i know the fig but i can not offer an opinion.
i only had a few and i cant remember.
sorry if i was not helpfull

Subject: Vasilika Sika Replies: 54
Posted By: andreas Views: 8,011
 
where in Portugal are you?

KALAMATIANA are great figs. they are the kind people buy dry in the stores.

SMYRNAIKA are good as well.

vasilika melissi is a great choice... now all you need is vasilika mavra and vasilika aspra and you are set for life:-)
if you like i can go to a local nersery and help you get them.

 
best of luck
andreas

Subject: Vasilika Sika Replies: 54
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Subject: Vasilika Sika Replies: 54
Posted By: andreas Views: 8,011
 
hi lampo .
i know the first top fig is fracasana parthenocarpic.
i dont know the names of the others, i am 99% sure they are all parthenocarpic.
i do know that i dont like the taste of the 3rd and that the fracasana is just ok. i can tell you that the 4th is the best in my opinion.
i am sorry i cant help you more, i wish i could.

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does this look like any of the ones in your pictures?

Subject: Vasilika Sika Replies: 54
Posted By: andreas Views: 8,011
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by gorgi
Yumm, yumm, yumm!

Thanks Leon for you taking ALL these professional fig pictures (fruit-specimens)...
 
Belleclare"s description of VS:
78. VASILIKA SIKA (Greek, Athens) (King & Queen) (a) large, white, pear-shape blood-red center (2 crops)


hi i am Andreas from greece
i am new here and i would like to let you know that vasilika sika does not have 2 crops.
there are 3 kinds of vasilika sika.
1) vasilika mavra        (black kind of fig)
2) vasilika aspra        (white kind of fig)
3) vasilika melissi       (honey like skin color)
sika is actually spelled with a y not an i but it sounds the same in greek and it is just the word for fig in greek.
any way i hope that helped you.