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Subject: 3 Inchario Preto cuttings Replies: 19
Posted By: AltadenaMara Views: 601
 
Francisco, I've enjoyed reading your enthusiastic posts about this variety and have two cuttings from another source that are now rooting and sprouting out. Hopefully they will continue to grow as well as they have so far. You described the taste beautifully:
"I may say, that when I finish eating a dozen or so.. a flavor and taste not far from fruit/ chocolate/marzipan remains in the palate for quite sometime. I cannot tell if it comes from the skin, flesh, syrup, those many crunchy seeds,...for sure it come from that combination all together. And it's divine! will have more tonight." 
This variety sounds like one of the best for our area. 

Subject: figs in asian videos Replies: 2
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According to this article:
"There are early records in Japan of figs (ichijiku in Japanese). They first entered the country through Nagasaki in 1630. Others came to Japan from Korea. Industry did not develop until 1908 when a young Kohjiro Masui left Hiroshima for California and returned with a fig cultivar now called the Masui-Dauphine, (Sometimes spelled in English as Dolphin). It is unclear how this evolved but 90% of the figs grown in Japan are Masui-Dauphine. There is some speculation that it evolved from early California Smyrna figs. 98% of those sold commercially are Masui-Dauphine. Others grown include Rodos, Bahane, Wase Nihon Shu, King, Noride, White Genoa, Violette-Dauphine, Negro, Largo, Selesto and Brown turkey. Most of these are for home use or used for grafting tests at various agriculture experiment stations."
http://www.hawaiifruit.net/Figs-Japan.htm

And:
"Figs have been very popular in Japan for eons.
They were introduced in Japan at the beginning of the Edo Era (17th Century) in Nagasaki (Kyushu Island) from Persia through China.
Interestingly enough the Japanese consume only a little quantity of dry figs that they mainly use in cakes. They prefer their fruit fresh and eat them either as appetizers (with sesame dressing/gomadare) or as dessertfruit. They are grown inside greenhouses or in open air, depending on the variety and growing method."
http://shizuokagourmet.com/2010/08/23/mrs-toshiko-otsukas-fig-orchard/

Another video. The little boy eating the fresh fig looks like he's enjoying it. The shipping boxes have pictures of split open figs on them: 





Subject: ideas to extend growing season Replies: 6
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My dining room becomes a sun room with a high powered sun lamp during the short winter we have here. I usually just over winter my tropicals, but this year brought in my Black Madiera, CdDN, Fico Preto and Black Bursa which still had unripe figs on them. A few of the figs ripened but the taste was way off what the figs tasted like in the fall, not worth the bother. I doubt I'll try it next year. Hopefully I'll be able to dry some of the figs from my trees and extend the season that way. 
I'm on my second plastic greenhouse. In your climate, you would need to wrap it in insulation and buy and expensive heater and fan system to maintain and circulate the heat. That's in addition to the lighting. There were winter nights when I was throwing wool blankets over the added insulation on my greenhouse to try and maintain heat with the little space heater I was using.
We weren't using the dining room much so it became the "greenhouse" for the short winter we have here. It's a lot easier to heat, light and maintain the plants there. The local hydroponics stores sells large floor trays to put the plants on and save the floors. It does a big business with all the people growing marijuana indoors here, so has all the equipment and know how needed. Christmas and New Years family dinners we set up in the front room where we spend most of our time together anyway. No problem.   

Subject: OT - Very painful injury Replies: 77
Posted By: AltadenaMara Views: 809
 
What an awful experience! I have chronic lower back pain and can somewhat relate to what you're going through. 
You might ask your doctor about Meloxicam. It's related to Ibuprofen, but works better, at least for me.
My physical therapist has me sleeping with a pillow between my legs and another pillow at my waist to keep the vertebrae and as level and supported as possible. There are whole specialized movements she taught for turning over in bed, pushing up and standing up that have really helped me. 
Best of luck with your recovery. Hope you feel better soon.

Subject: Valley Black fig Replies: 18
Posted By: AltadenaMara Views: 619
 
I'm missing something. Why would you want an unproven seedling? Just because it has pretty leaves? Have you tasted the fruit? 
I have fig seedlings coming up all over my yard, probably from my big fig tree with figs so tasteless and bland it's enough to turn you against figs. The big tree is probably a seedling also. There are wild fig trees growing on many fence lines and freeway exits here. Unknown seedlings might make good rootstock, a caprifig or even a valued shade tree. But when you can grow all the wonderful varieties and flavors of delicious figs, why waste your time, space and effort on unknowns from unknowns? 
The fig forums have shown me that proven varieties of figs can be superb. Seedlings from proven varieties -maybe. But an unknown fig tree from unknown sources growing wild somewhere? I don't get it.  

Subject: Re dried fig in store Replies: 12
Posted By: AltadenaMara Views: 191
 
What do other people here do when you need a fig fix and there are no fresh figs?
I never liked fig newtons and because of them thought I didn't like figs. Just yesterday, I was getting fig hunger reading the posts on the fig boards and seeing the pictures of the ripe figs on eBay. So I finished off the last of Trader Joe's dried Calimyrna figs and they were great. The seal-able container keeps them juicy. Of course they're not as good as fresh figs. I like TJ's better than the dried figs in plastic packages from Sprouts that seem to be moldy or dried out. 

Subject: Have cuttings of MBVS, RdB, Giovanni, Scott's Black Replies: 15
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How does Scott's Black do here in dry, hot SoCal? Taste, size, productivity? Mine hasn't produced any figs yet. 

Subject: Too hot for cuttings? Replies: 6
Posted By: AltadenaMara Views: 242
 
I haven't used the heat mat this year at all and I have a heat mat regulator. My sun room stays really warm and the humidity bins are there as well as the ripening cuttings. Everything with good leaves and roots has been moved to a humidity bin outside in the shade. With night temps in the 50s, it seems okay.
It's going to get warmer before it gets cooler. I wonder if it will ever get too hot for fig trees here? They're planning for cotton crops in Iowa when it's too hot for cotton in the South:
"21st Century US 'dustbowl' risk assessed"
 http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-35566151

Subject: Factors That End Winter Dormancy Replies: 23
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I think another important factor in when trees break dormancy is the variety. Both my Unk. Pastilleres are opening leaves today and are on opposite sides of the house and yard. Several fig trees in pots in my sun room with an extended day have yet to break dormancy. A few little trees never went dormant at all.
I was thinking of making a post here titled "The winner is ......" with a picture of the UP opening leaves and asking people what their first leafing variety was this year. (Caprifigs don't count.) Then I saw that the East Coast would be getting another freezing snow and ice storm next week, so guess I'll forget it for now.  

Subject: High Acid, Intense figs? Replies: 5
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My LSU Scott's Black hasn’t fruited yet, but I was just trying to find ground space for it. Thanks for the suggestion. Now I’ll try harder.
CdDN and SV were wonderful last year and are already in the ground. 

Subject: High Acid, Intense figs? Replies: 5
Posted By: AltadenaMara Views: 241
 

People are making such a fuss over the Ponte Tresa fig tree. The taste is described as: “It has a lemony zing just before its full fig flavor hits the palate like a semi.”
That sounds like Igor’s El Molino fig which also is a high acid tasting fig: “bright, sharp raspberry notes, complexity and moderate sweetness. This is an intense fig.”

Are there other high acid, intense figs for people who like that taste? Just so I don't have to rush out and bid on a Ponte Tresa fig tree any time soon.


Subject: --- Dark berry fig ID, please Replies: 45
Posted By: AltadenaMara Views: 2,066
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by greenfig
I wish I had any leads. It seems to be a Smyrna fig and very vigorous and healthy tree. Grows well in the ground and pots.

Is this the tree you named El Molino or is it different? 

Subject: What's the deal with figs? Replies: 23
Posted By: AltadenaMara Views: 671
 
Yes, I have tried different fertilizers that people recommended on the fig forums.
Some fig trees may need 100 hours of winter chill, according to the Dave Wilson Nursery website, but that's a lot less than my plums and apricots.
My black mulberry tree didn't produce either last year after thirty-five years of heavy fruiting. I'm afraid my mulberries will be the next to have to go. Oh, well. More room for figs. 

Quote:
Originally Posted by tennesseefig
Sharing with your community sounds excellent, I plan to do the same.  I have never actually had a fig I didn't like but I don't live in Cali.  I appreciate your informative answer.  Figs conserve water, don't have to have winter chill hours, and grow very fast.  Do you fertilize?

Subject: What's the deal with figs? Replies: 23
Posted By: AltadenaMara Views: 671
 
Growing up, people around me grew cheap, common figs which never tasted very good, so I never liked figs. I grow citrus, grapes, plums, apricots, apples, other odd fruit and have enjoyed them a lot. The stone fruit trees produced a lot for a few years, then all but a few stopped fruiting. I thought it was my fertilize and did all the culture stuff recommended by the local aggie advisers. I finally figured it out. With the recent global climate changes, my stone fruit have stopped producing because now we're just not getting enough winter chill hours here in SoCal. They have to be replaced. Also, with the water shortage, replacements have to be water conserving. 
Since fig trees need little if any winter chill hours and are drought resistant once established, they are the perfect choice. After reading posts on the fig forums, I was ready to give figs another taste try and am glad I did. Fig trees grew easily and quickly from simple cuttings to producing trees in a matter of months. Some of the figs my new trees produced last year tasted amazing. I've been on a calorie restricted diet for thirty years and these little bundles of sweetness are flavorful as well as being healthy. And there were different flavors to sample: honey, brown sugar, an assortment of different berry and melon tastes.  I hope to share cuttings from my best trees with neighbors so that no child ever has to suffer eating mediocre figs again. That's the deal with figs for me. 

Subject: Gourmet figs vs. Common figs Replies: 9
Posted By: AltadenaMara Views: 413
 

Almost all of my fig trees are first year trees and I ate a number of well ripened mediocre figs last year. However, a few of my trees produced one or two figs that had a distinct sweetness and rich blend of subtle flavors that made them memorable. Since I’m the only one eating these figs (besides the usual army of critters), I would rather have a few remarkable figs spread out over the season than a messy glut of boring fruit all at once that no one wants to eat. Spending hours in the kitchen trying to make junky, fattening sweets like jams and preserves loaded with added sugar is not only a thankless chore and waste of time, it’s a caloric health and diet disaster.

Yes, not all great figs are what are considered gourmet figs. But don’t criticize those “holy grail” figs with something extra that makes them truly special until you’ve tried them. If you’re going to put out all the time, money, limited ground space and effort growing figs over a lifetime, even leaving a legacy for the future, why not spend a little more money to begin with and get something really outstanding that will draw you out to the garden each morning with excitement? The prices of many of the best fig trees are constantly dropping and they are much more available and affordable now. The reviews are easy to find on the fig forums with a little searching. Like watching a really bad movie at a theater, five years from now will you be asking yourself, why did I waste all this time and hard earned money doing this? Life is too short... 

Subject: Where to buy Fig Cuttings? + Fruits which propagate and fruit easily from cuttings? Replies: 6
Posted By: AltadenaMara Views: 302
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by chrisb9341
I have to put in a plug for drivewayfarmer on ebay. Always ships a generous amount of nice healthy cuttings . He has some RDB's listed now. 

But he doesn't ship to California (fig paradise), Hawaii, or Internationally. Discrimination!

EBay has some great fig sellers if you know who you're buying from, enjoy the waiting, the bidding, and have lots of money to spend when the prices soar through the ceiling. I much prefer an affordable set price from a reputable seller. Click, click, click -cuttings in the mail.

Subject: Where to buy Fig Cuttings? + Fruits which propagate and fruit easily from cuttings? Replies: 6
Posted By: AltadenaMara Views: 302
 

HarveyC, one of the F4F regulars here, has opened up a new website today that offers a the widest variety of fig cuttings I’ve ever seen at reasonable prices: http://www.figaholics.com/cuttings.htm . His website also has helpful information and links to drool-worth pictures of figs from his fig trees. 

There’s also eBay, which is a little more expensive.

Subject: England – Chiswick Fig Collection Replies: 6
Posted By: AltadenaMara Views: 800
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by elin
Ingevald Hi,
Found this video about Tarring figs:

The gardens and music are beautiful, but it doesn't say a thing about the figs. I wonder what kind they are. Sometimes a picture is not worth a thousand words.

Subject: Is Tashkent Sari Zybek? Replies: 4
Posted By: AltadenaMara Views: 146
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by GeneDaniels
If it is green, it is not Sari Zybek, that is a yellow fig. If I told you otherwise before, please forgive my mistake, I must have misunderstood you. I never saw a green fig in Central Asia, only yellow and black.

Thanks Gene. On this thread, Dennis said he had a fruit that was yellowish brown. Bass says his tree produced a “big flat yellow fig”. Everyone agreed it was a poor grower. No one describes its taste.

http://figs4funforum.websitetoolbox.com/post/tashkent-fig-5055174?trail=

 Vladis posted some pictures and Russian that Google translated as “The Soviet Union was not a variety of figs "Tashkent". It is a misnomer coined fan exclusively for commerce.” He added a nice picture with Russian that translated as: “I found a photo of the class "Uzbek yellow" in the US "Tashkent".
Fedy posted some pictures of a flat yellow fig with Russian that translated: “Uzbek yellow in my garden”.

So is Tashkent is also known as Uzbek Yellow, but not Sari Zybek?


Subject: Is Tashkent Sari Zybek? Replies: 4
Posted By: AltadenaMara Views: 146
 

There were older posts (from 2008) here about this fig from Uzbekistan by way of Raintree, but not too many recently. Has it fruited for anyone? It’s not listed by Raintree this year. I must have bought their last one last fall.
What is your experience growing this fig?

GeneDaniels said it might be the same as Sari Zybek.

Raintree 2012 described it as: 
"This green fig has light colored flesh and an excellent flavor. Raintree brought this heavy producer from Uzbekistan where it was the favorite among many cultivars in the garden of a local horticulturalist. It thrives in long, hot, dry summers and short, cold winters."


Subject: Effects of Caprification of Fig Flavor Replies: 15
Posted By: AltadenaMara Views: 209
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Vladis
Исследования влияния опыление инжира kapri fikusami был проведен в НБС Ялте у большинство сортов инжира вкус улучшается.

Google Translate: "Studies of the effect pollination of figs kapri fikusom was held in Yalta, NBS from most varieties of figs taste improves."

That would be an interesting study to read. Is there a link to it on the Internet?
Это было бы интересное исследование, чтобы читать. Есть ссылка на него в Интернете?

Subject: Still a little confused with capri fig trees Replies: 8
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It's probably better if caprifigs taste weird and are not eatable. I think my large unknown fig in the back yard might be a caprifig. It put out a third flush of figs late fall and they all stayed on the tree until last week. Then the birds started eating them. Now all the figs are pecked away to little stubs. The wasps' survival may be tied into caprifigs tasting too bad to eat.

Subject: Best garden cart –tree mover? Replies: 5
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Rcantor, the Roughneck is 19 inches wide. The hand truck I have now is 21 inches, which is too big to manipulate around my crowded plants and bumpy paths. The luggage carrier I’ve been using is the perfect width, 12 ½ inches, but it’s not designed for pots. The pots still have to be lifted up and over onto it. The collapsible handle keeps collapsing.

Northfig, I think the same would be true for your dolly, as nice as it looks. Lifting is still a problem for me. A good hand truck just slides under the pot, tilt, duck, and off we go….

I’m in physical therapy for a lower back condition. Yesterday I did what Meg suggested, drag two pots ten feet to a better location and it was too much. Ten years ago that would not have been a problem, but times change. I have to do something different. Thanks for your comments and suggestions.


Subject: Best garden cart –tree mover? Replies: 5
Posted By: AltadenaMara Views: 171
 
I mostly move my trees when they're dormant, so having a tree trunk to hold onto actually helps me stabilize them. I can move my face around the bare branches easily.
Quote:
Originally Posted by eboone
Standard dollies just do not work well as when you tilt them to move the potted plant, the top of the tree is literally in your face.

Subject: Best garden cart –tree mover? Replies: 5
Posted By: AltadenaMara Views: 171
 

Would someone recommend a good gardening cart/dolly to buy for moving big potted trees around the yard like 15-20 gallon size nursery pots? I have a large dolly for moving refrigerators and large appliances, but it is just too big and clumsy for some of the narrow, bumpy paths in the packed garden. I was using a luggage carrier with larger wheels but it folds up too easily when I’m navigating around bushes and is breaking apart. Also, my lower back thinks it would be nice not to have to lift the pot to put it on the carrier. There are just too many choices on Amazon. I really don't need anything that folds up. From the reviews on Amazon, the fold ups have more on them to break.
What gardening cart do you use?

 I read other older discussions of this topic here: http://figs4funforum.websitetoolbox.com/post/plant-pot-mover-6171398?highlight=dolly&pid=1276543420

 Bill's Fig mover is too wide for my packed garden.

The Roughneck Folding Aluminum Hand Truck (600-Lb. Capacity) was suggested. But would this also be too big and clumsy for a little old lady like myself to use? http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200586484_200586484

 


Subject: Figs from Turkey Replies: 225
Posted By: AltadenaMara Views: 9,340
 
Maybe when you get fruit from it, it will be easier to ID. 
I have one that looks like it, but it IS a weed -a seedling from one of my fig trees that the birds started. It's so pretty with the wavy leaves I hate to pull it up but the strawberry pot it's in is going to get very small, very fast. I guess I could try to graft it, but then would lose the pretty leaves. 

Quote:
Originally Posted by Smyfigs
Hi Ercan: Its a tree near my home in Fullerton, CA. I started the cuttings on 1/3 and by that night there were roots growing. It was amazing to see. My husband discovered the tree. I have not seen the figs & the tree is small because they keep chopping it down. Like most figs, people see it as a weed.

Subject: Fig Recommendation Please Replies: 15
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May I suggest you not limit yourself to whatever you find from your club sale and broaden your choices. The world is your market when it comes to choosing fig trees. When I was looking for some heat blast resistant figs for my SoCal area, members on another board recommended for full sun: Long Yellow, Zingarella/Aldo, Unk Pastilliere, Golden Celeste, El Molino, Panachee, Scott's Black, MBVS, Havasu Purple. “The figs do not dry up and stay nice and plump after the extreme sun exposure.” It was also suggested to grow Battaglia Green, California Brown Turkey, and, if you have the wasp, figs with a Calimyrna heritage.

You might think about growing VdB in a pot in full sun, then moving it to an afternoon shade location somewhere during the burning season, even if you have to construct some shade cloth. It has a delicious flavor and is worth the trouble.  

Too much time, money and effort is wasted trying to grow trees that refuse to grow where they are planted. Also trees that you baby for five or ten years only to produce fruit nothing will eat but fruit worms or a starving bird.

Check out the different fig flavors (search "fig flavor") and perhaps start with one of each, especially ones with good tasting breba crops so you get more than one crop a year. Then you can add choices as you discover the tastes you like best. You might fine tune your choices with several trees that offer a continuous succession of good fruit. It might take a little homework searching the fig boards but it’s worth it.

I have to warn you, you might discover you like ALL the figs you taste. Then you’re in big trouble. :) 


Subject: Native de Argentile 2014 Replies: 58
Posted By: AltadenaMara Views: 2,292
 
Yes, sorry about that. I just saw your post. 
Quote:
Originally Posted by snaglpus
Mara, you mean fig mosaic virus (FMV)... right?  Not HMV.

Subject: Bursa Siyahi in January Replies: 17
Posted By: AltadenaMara Views: 340
 
The tree went dormant a few weeks ago and dropped its leaves but is showing some green tips now on the ends of the branches. We should have some leaves soon with the warm sunny weather we've been having.

Quote:
Originally Posted by ercan_bilgi
Hi all.I live in Bursa city that is Bursa siyahi (Bursa black) is originally grown in this area.But why its color is different than ours .lets compare this with mine.Also if possible to see its leaves then I can surely define it is original Bursa black or not

Subject: Marabout C.smyrnay Replies: 20
Posted By: AltadenaMara Views: 392
 
Francisco, I've tried painting white some of my nectarine and plum trees and it seems to help. Now I like better the white plastic wrap around sleeves that twist around the base of the tree. It protects the trees not only from heat and critters, but also from the man who cuts the lawns and finishes with a weed trimmer. 
Could you translate what you said. I'm guessing Z is Ziti. Is BB Black Bursa? Mb =Marabout?  Caly = Calimyrna? But GH, Bt, SZ? Thanks.

Subject: A BIG THANK YOU TO (AltadenaMara) MARA FOR MY EL MOLINO Replies: 13
Posted By: AltadenaMara Views: 283
 
Thank you, Richie, for giving it a good home. I hope it survived de-potting and shipping. Greenfig gave me several El Molino cuttings last winter to practice rooting. It was my first time propagating figs. They all rooted and grew really tall over the summer. I have one tree planted in the ground already and others for back up, so needed to find homes for the extras. I did a brief post on this forum, and they were all gone within the hour. Sharing trees and cuttings is so much fun! 

Subject: Marabout C.smyrnay Replies: 20
Posted By: AltadenaMara Views: 392
 
Richie, in hot weather, I put all my plastic pots with fig trees in larger pots so there is an inch or two of empty shaded space around the outside of the pot. You're right -the sun will heat up the plastic and burn the roots unless something is done to protect them. During the winter this isn't necessary and I take them out. In fact, I think the warm surface of the plastic pots (as long as it's not hot) encourages root growth. But it has to be watched carefully or, as you say it will get extreme quickly. 

Subject: OxiDate 2.0 for cuttings? Replies: 6
Posted By: AltadenaMara Views: 247
 
SuperMario1, Thanks for the suggestion of using a toothbrush and antibacterial soap. It's good to know that an antibacterial soap will also have an effect on fungus development as well as bacteria. 
Thanks Alan for your help with the math. I mixed up a half gallon batch today and used it on today's prunings. i skipped the safety stuff but was extra careful with the solution and it all poured, measured and mixed up easily. After a few hours the solution turned cloudy and I poured it down the drain. 
Thanks for the Green-Shield suggestion fignut. The directions for OxiDate said not to rinse with water, so I didn't. OxiDate 2.0 comes in a quart size from my local Hydroponics store, so is a little easier to use and store. 


Subject: OxiDate 2.0 for cuttings? Replies: 6
Posted By: AltadenaMara Views: 247
 

Thanks smatthew, brianm, and alanmercieca, for your comments. It will be interesting to try something new. 

I was just checking the measurement math, and the suggestion of 1-2 teaspoons per gallon is not right, I think.

If the suggested dilution should be 1:100, and one gallon is equal to 128 oz., then 1/100th of that would be 1.26 oz.?

1 oz. = 2 Tablespoons, so 2 ½ Tablespoons per gallon would be about right, +/-, wouldn’t it? 

I wish there were more suggestions on garden product websites about how to measure smaller amounts of their products. Fifty gallons of water seems a bit much. 


Subject: OxiDate 2.0 for cuttings? Replies: 6
Posted By: AltadenaMara Views: 247
 
My friendly Hydroponics store person recommended treating cuttings with a dilute OxiDate 2.0 solution before trying to root them as a control for fungus infections. People here have recommended a 10% bleach solution, but he suggested that the Oxidate was more effective over a period of several days. The bleach was only good for a few hours. He also suggested it for treating pruners and recycled pots to prevent a spread of diseases as well as a soil drench. The active ingredients are Hydrogen Dioxide -27.1% and Peroxyacetic Acid -2.0%

I did a search here but didn't find this product specifically mentioned here. Has anyone tried it?

Directions:
"Pre-Plant Dip Treatment: Use OxiDate 2.0 for the control of damping-off, root disease and stem rot disease caused by Pythium, Phytophthora, Rhizoctonia, Fusarium or Thielaviopsis, on seeds, seedlings, bulbs, or cuttings. Remove dead or dying foliage prior to dipping.
1. Use a dilution of 1:100 or 64-fl. oz. OxiDate 2.0 per 50 gallons of water. 
2. Immerse plants or cuttings; remove and allow to drain. Do not rinse.
3. Excessive foaming or bubbling during the dipping process is an indication of high levels of disease contamination." 
http://www.biosafesystems.com/assets/oxidate-2.0-specimen.pdf

The clerk recommended mixing up a solution of 1 1/2- 2 tsps. per gallon.
I don't like the idea of a soil drench because that would kill off your friendly, helpful fungi as well, wouldn't it?

Subject: White Madeira Replies: 86
Posted By: AltadenaMara Views: 5,712
 
I bought some cuttings but they didn't root for me. Disappointing! 

Subject: My turn to Butbank tree! Replies: 41
Posted By: AltadenaMara Views: 595
 
Thanks so much Meg. I'll have some cuttings to share with you as well. 

Subject: My turn to Butbank tree! Replies: 41
Posted By: AltadenaMara Views: 595
 
I drove to the famous Unknown Burbank and Vineland fig tree this afternoon after catching a movie at the Burbank mall. As I walked up to the house's front door, a side door quickly closed, so I know someone was there. I knocked and rang the door bell several times, both at the front and side door, but no one answered. I have the distinct impression they don’t want to be bothered by fig people. I left a note with my phone number in the mail box by the door saying I would like to buy some cuttings of the fig tree and asked them to name their price. Other than this, I don’t know what else can be done. It’s a smallish but mature tree compared to most fig trees I’ve seen with a lot of inside branching. It could use a light pruning of several small inside branches. But I don’t feel right just taking some cuttings without permission.

Subject: Marabout C.smyrnay Replies: 20
Posted By: AltadenaMara Views: 392
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by greenfig
Mara, My Zidi loves the sun! Plant it in the open full sun large spot and the tree will go wild :)

Thanks. I have just the spot. Some of my trees in pots hate full sun, so I have had to move them around a bit over the summer. 

Subject: Marabout C.smyrnay Replies: 20
Posted By: AltadenaMara Views: 392
 
Francisco, 
   Thanks for your suggestions. They're helpful. This was my first year with new fig trees so I know better what to do and what not to do next year. 

Quote:
Originally Posted by lampo

Mara,

IMO your Bursas were too much for such a young tree and they could not ripe properly
This season may be you have to prune some and leave just a sample (may be 1 per branch) and then they will grow and get a good size/weight, and sugar/flavors  I would concentrate my attention now on building and shaping up a robust tree.. then get to full speed at 4th year.

In your country you have easy access to the best potting soils and the state of the art fertilizers so no reason for not creating great fig trees and super figs
Over and above all this you have the best in terms of climate and sun-hours ! Again, I would let these figs under full sun. In ground and/or in big pots a  3 to 4 inch of mulching is desirable and the soil kept with some grains of moisture

Good care and attention to your garden providing help and assistance (if required) by the time pollination occurs, by ripening time I bet all your Bursas,  Zidis an Marabouts will be large to very large delicious, crunchy fruit,  all beyond the 100 gr mark!

Francisco
Portugal

Subject: Marabout C.smyrnay Replies: 20
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Francisco, 
   Thanks for the recipes. i'll have to try them. 
   Yes, I posted on another board about the Bursa Siyahi I was growing and how it produced a number of fruit that were full size but just didn't ripe before dormancy. I did a seed test, with 80% of the seeds fertile, so the wasp is active in my area.
   I'm trying to find a good place to plant my one year old Zidi. Full sun here is too hot for some figs, so it's a challenge to find a space with sun and shade that is just the right amount but not too much.   

Subject: Marabout C.smyrnay Replies: 20
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Thanks Francisco, I'll be moving the collards as soon as I finish pruning. I fertilized regularly last year with various liquid fertilizers and had a nice crop of white cabbage butterflies. The butterflies were more appreciated than the collards. You can buy collards at any grocery store, but white butterflies...... They're special. 
I made collards for New Years Day (a family tradition) with garlic, bouillon, sesame seeds, sesame seed oil and soy sauce. Is your 'caldo verde' like that? It sounds great!

Subject: Red Israel Replies: 29
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It’s interesting that the pictures show different colored, different shaped figs. Could the breba be a different color from the main crop?

Harvey’s picture shows "Red Israel/Red Palestine" as a long, black fig that is ripe in mid July, so it’s probably a breba. The brebas of Brunswick on the Varietal Info site show a light colored fig with reddish to purple stripes. If the real Khurtmani is, as Harvey says, a lighter fig, and also equal to Brunswick, then what we all have from KK is something else?

 Below are pictures of my first “Red Israel/Red Palestine” ? fig (via Igor via KK). It’s a main crop, 10/24/15, pollinated.  It looks like the unknown Israeli fig below from http://bethmichelle.com/shrimp-bacon-and-figs-with-goat-cheese-quinoa-drizzled-with-fig-balsamic/. Does the sign in the picture give its name?

Red Israel -whole.jpg  Red Israel cut 2.jpg    

Israeli fig.jpg  Unknown Israeli fig



Subject: Marabout C.smyrnay Replies: 20
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My Marrabout (RR) hasn't done very well this first year. It arrived as a big tree last winter with large bare roots. I put it in a large pot, stuck some some tiny collards around the top for green mulch. The collards grew big and are almost taller than the tree now. The Marrabout struggled in full sun. I had to move the pot to afternoon shade and it did a little better. Maybe next year it will grow better if I move the collards somewhere else. It put out leaves but didn't grow at all. At least it didn't die. I wonder if I should take cuttings and start over again. All my first year cuttings that I rooted last year grew like weeds. 

RR catalog describes it as: “Marrabout- A Smyrna type fig it needs the fig wasp for pollination. Large purplish-black skinned, strawberry fleshed fruit has excellent, rich, sweet flavor. Figs ripen over a long season and are great fresh and have the classic Smyrna nutty flavor caused by the fertile seeds.  Hardiness zones 8-10.” https://www.rollingrivernursery.com/products/628/20/fruit-trees/figs-ficus-carica/marrabout-detail

Herman had posted: "It appears that UCDAVIS has three Marabouts: 1.Marabout(Smyrna type), 2.MaraboutC(Common Fig), 3.Marabout/Gulbun (hybrid)"

I emailed RR and asked which Marabout was theirs?
Marc from Rolling River Nursery emailed me back: “Our Marrabout is from Davis, and I believe it is the one introduced by Condit, but I would have to dig deep in the records to find out. I'm not sure how different they are.”


Subject: Bursa Siyahi in January Replies: 17
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Quote:
Originally Posted by figpig_66
I am wondering if the skin color can differ from a pollenated fig & non pollenated of the same variety?

Harvey's green "Bursa" was as pollinated as my half black "Bursa". Perhaps there was a mix up at the nursery.
What is the difference between my tree that refused to drop its figs over the winter and a capri fig? All those figs would have still been on my "Bursa" if I hadn't picked them off. I was looking at a picture of a purple capri fig on eBay, and it looked a lot like my "Bursa". Would the wasps know the difference? Is there a difference?

Subject: Bursa Siyahi in January Replies: 17
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Quote:
Originally Posted by greenfig
Congrats! The figs look great, I hope next July or so you could show us a few nicely ripened Bursa figs.
Me too! It was disappointing to have all these figs finally, and none of them ripening. 

Subject: Bursa Siyahi in January Replies: 17
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lampo
Good.
Your seed test info plus colors on the additional fruit picture, seem to confirm that this is the real stuff.
Congratulations.
What may have happened for such long time to ripen could well be  the 'forcing' on such a young tree
to mature several fruit in the season. This is a known behavior on many fig types.

This link takes you to a page where the BB  colors are shown and some useful descriptions provided
http://www.figer.com.tr/products.html

Francisco
Portugal


Thanks for the link. You're right. It's probably the correct fig.  

Subject: Bursa Siyahi in January Replies: 17
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Here is a picture of the inside of two figs that I pulled off last week and have been on the ground. I didn’t want to drain the tree since it's finally dormant. I tasted one fig. It was like a sour strawberry, -not ripe.
Out of ten seeds, eight sunk and two floated, so I guess the figs were 80% pollinated. We have a healthy fig wasp population here, (and fruit flies, wasps, bees, ants, grasshoppers, butterflies and scale).
The tree arrived bare root around last February, is a first year tree, so is probably still getting used to the climate here. It's in a five gallon pot.
As I mention above, Harvey’s same variety tree from the same nursery had ripe fruit last September but they were green, not black. Could it be another nursery mix up? 

Bursa January 2.jpg 



Subject: Whom do I promise the El Molino cuttings? Replies: 4
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AltadenaMara
If anyone would like a small, one gallon El Molino fig, PM me. It roots very easily and I have an extra one that needs a good home.

Three responses already! I think it's gone.

Subject: Whom do I promise the El Molino cuttings? Replies: 4
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If anyone would like a small, one gallon El Molino fig, PM me. It roots very easily and I have an extra one that needs a good home.