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Subject: First ripe breba (Tauro) Replies: 4
Posted By: Fico Views: 478
 
The origin of this fig is the Apulia region, in south Italy.
The name "Tauro" or "Domenico Tauro" recalls its discoverer Domenico Tauro; this variety is typical of the city of Terlizzi, and it's much cultivated here for the breba crop.
It's also called fiorone / fico / nero / rosso "di Terlizzi".

http://neigiardinidipomona-bari.blogautore.repubblica.it/2013/07/biodiversita-del-fiorone/
In this link you can see and compare with other varieties. Tauro is in the first of the 4 photos in the lower part of the page.

Subject: First ripe breba (Tauro) Replies: 4
Posted By: Fico Views: 478
 
Today i've picked my first breba of 2015, i could not wait to taste it, and then... surprise! 2 fat and happy maggots, damn!
This tree was planted this year; the particularity of this variety is that produces fruits over the whole length of the trunk.
The brebas of this variety are among the largest (200 grams), but this plant has suffered thirst, and the fruits were very small.


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Subject: Brogiotto nero brebas Replies: 21
Posted By: Fico Views: 1,231
 
Main crop ripens very well, since the beginning of september.
The climatic zone of my orchard is 9b, as you can see the grass is already dry.

Subject: Brogiotto nero brebas Replies: 21
Posted By: Fico Views: 1,231
 
Hi Deerhunter, i'm located in Sardinia.
Thanks Sbmohan.

Vito, your tree looks similar to mine? I'm not 100% sure with my plants because many trees are mislabeled. This tree was purchased as "Dottato".

Last year my parents bought 2 trees, one as "Brogiotto nero" and one as "Lungo del Portogallo", but are neither one nor the other, are completely different from my Bn and LdP, and they are both of the same variety.

Subject: Brogiotto nero brebas Replies: 21
Posted By: Fico Views: 1,231
 
Hello!

My Brogiotto nero trees are loaded with brebas, it's strange, this cultivar should be unifere.
First years brebas are always fallen, last year the biggest plant have ripen two brebas, this year have a lot of fruits, that are big enough.
brogiotto1.jpg brogiotto2.jpg brogiotto3.jpg foglie.jpg

Subject: Link: sampling 14 italian varieties, full description Replies: 12
Posted By: Fico Views: 838
 
Hi Desertdance,
leaves can be very different depending on the position of the brances, if branches are fruiting or suckers, exposure to the sun...

Regarding the trees it's normal in Italy to see trees in these conditions, this is a plant that can grow without care in favorable climates.

Subject: Link: sampling 14 italian varieties, full description Replies: 12
Posted By: Fico Views: 838
 
The variety Folm, is indicated as a unifere variety, Niagara black is bifere?
Natalegna is probably a synonym of Natalina, that means who the fig ripe in the Christmas period (Natale=Christmas).
Also the variety Vito is indicated as unifere, N.d. Caromb is bifere.
Regarding the Zingarello nero compared with Lampeira, i don't know, Lampera and San Pedro it's the same fig?
In Italy the variety called San Piero, is called also "Lungo del Portogallo" (portuguese long), and in the past "Lampas portoghese" (lampas from figo lampo?), the name does assume its portuguese origin.
I have a Lungo del Portogallo and it's different from Lampeira, and mine produces 2nd crop without caprification (at least i haven't never practiced).

Subject: Link: sampling 14 italian varieties, full description Replies: 12
Posted By: Fico Views: 838
 
I post an interesting link where are shown 14 fig varieties natives of Apulia:
Verdesca, Ricotta, Ritonna (Lattarola), Mattepinto, Folm, Vito Carlo, Natalegna (di Natale), Trimone, Zingarello bianco, Zingarello nero, Regina, Verde di Natale, Fiorone di Oria, Fiorone nero di Sava.

Full description of all varieties (leaves, fruit, ripening period, etc. with some photos.

http://www.crsfa.it/wp-content/uploads/download/varieta/fico.pdf

I hope you find it useful.

Subject: Nematodes Replies: 7
Posted By: Fico Views: 473
 
Thanks Mic, i will read it with pleasure.

Figpig, seedlings grow because the birds (and even me!) scatter the seeds; several seedlings proved caprifigs, so do not think i can get something interesting to seedings.
In the countryside there are also many figs of the common type, but they have small fruit, with bad taste in most cases. Get a good fig tree from seed is very difficult.
I live in Sardinia, Italy.

Jdsfrance, in the picture is not seen, but some of these seedlings had nematode tubercles.
A month ago they didn't have, only one plant that i have eliminated, had many tubercles.
Maybe the diseased plant has infected other.

I'm sorry to kill these plants, but in fact there aren't really useful, i'm interested in protecting good figs, and i'm afraid that these seedlings are source of infection.

Subject: Nematodes Replies: 7
Posted By: Fico Views: 473
 
Thanks for the info Mic, very interesting.

Maybe the bugs that i've seen on the roots are mealybugs, not nematodes.

Subject: Nematodes Replies: 7
Posted By: Fico Views: 473
 
Hello!

In my courtyard grow everywere fig seedlings. I have left to grow some, and last month i uprooted them for transplanting in my orchard for grafting good varieties or for caprification.
I found a seedling with many tubercles, that i have immediately eliminated.
The other seedlings were healty, so i didn't worry. I've put them in a jar, awaiting transplantation.
In this jar, water stagnated, but seedlings don't seem to suffer.
Today i removed these plants from the jar, and i immediately saw that that there were many white microscopic "bugs", and some tubercles on the roots.
I wonder what causes this disease. How appens the contagion?
I read that happens in dry soils, but in this case soil was drenched!
Also in this case i destroyed all, seedlings and soil. I'm afraid for my plants.
What are the sources of infection? There are things to do to prevent them?
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Subject: Rooting question and Which way is up? Replies: 6
Posted By: Fico Views: 394
 
Me too use this metod for rooting cuttings, but i put them in horizontal position, wrapped in a piece of paper towel moistened, and then in a plastic bag, unsealed, to allow air to enter. 
I change frequently paper towels, when they change color, and if necessary replace even in the plastic bag or dip the cuttings in water for some time.
When forming roots i remove paper towels, and leave the cuttings in the bag until roots are well formed.
If cuttings form the mold i wash them or i treat with a solution of copper sulphate.

At this stage of development are ready to be transferred into the substrate:
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Subject: Hello from Sardinia Replies: 50
Posted By: Fico Views: 2,071
 
Hello!
I try again to post the pics of cuttings planted directly in ground.

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Subject: Hello from Sardinia Replies: 50
Posted By: Fico Views: 2,071
  
Lampo, i replied to the PM.

Thanks DesertDance, but figs on the pics aren't mine, are lampo's pics. 
It's strange that there are no figs in your area! I think that the dark-skinned figs are tastier,
 but i'm ready to be proven wrong.

Poking into the phone, i found some pics taken in january, of inground cuttings.


I used this technique:  dug a hole wide enough and deep, filled with good soil, and i put the cuttings,
in oblique-horizontal position,leaving only protrude a few centimeteres. I chose a damp spot under 
a rock, but well drained and fertile.These are big cuttings, some of almost 70-80 centimeters.   
   

My father used another technique: he put cuttings, bent to "L" shape, in a deep and large hole, 
but burying only the bottom of the cutting. Soil is clayey.

I've posted an identical topic like this with pictures, but i made a mess with pics.
Images trespassed the edges and made it impossible to read. There's a way to post pics
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Subject: Hello from Sardinia Replies: 50
Posted By: Fico Views: 2,071
 
In a country when a product is not common, it's normal that people doesn't know its characteristics.
I think that also in most Italian cities ripe figs be discarded, figs aren't a fruit common like apples or bananas,
and not all know them well as more common fruits.
Fig is a special fruit, and if there is a forum like this , it means that there are many to think this!

Lampo, i've seen your photo album, congratulations!
Unfortunately older's people wisdom is a wealth that is disappearing, since people, to eat fruits and vegetables,
 no longer needed to cultivate, because it was in a supermarket.
Many people abandoned orchards and gardens, trees of ancient varieties have been cut off, and agronomic pratices have become prerogative
of a few people.
I ask olders especially to know varieties names.

I will post photos as soon as possible.
I've not caprifigs in my orchard, but i could plant them if necessary.
My figs are all rooted in pots. Since some time i make root my cuttings in a plastic bag, and when well rooted, i put them in a pot. The plant grow in the pot during spring and summer,
then is transplanted in the ground, during autumn or winter.
This year i'm also experimenting rooting in the ground of big cuttings, we will see the results in a few weeks...
waiting for PM...

Subject: Hello from Sardinia Replies: 50
Posted By: Fico Views: 2,071
 
Thank you greenfig,
here is another world. I live in a very small village, figs are hard to find for sale,
but fortunately if people want a fig there are a lot of plants in the countryside, and just go to pick them up.
Many people also have orchards for personal consumption. In other areas it's easier to find them, where, of course,
those who want to eat them is forced to buy them because there aren't.
It must be said, that the fig is good only if it's perfectly ripe, and in the markets the figs for sale are picked unripe.
Those who have never eaten a fig just picked from the plant has never really eaten a fig!

Subject: Brogiotto Bianco Replies: 7
Posted By: Fico Views: 814
 
Hi speedmaster.

This variety is one of the most cultivated and appreciated in Italy.
It's considered one of the best italian figs, produces one crop, Gallesio has called him the king of figs.
The peel is green, and is very thin, that can be eaten.
Gallesio wrote that the tree is the biggest between all varieties, and requires fertile land and is demanding in terms of humidity of the soil.
The ripening period is late, in September; weight exceeding 100 grams. It's very sweet and is good for fresh and for drying.
For more information:
http://www.pomonaitaliana.it/ → http://pentagora.it/pomo/pomona/fico_brogiotto.php" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">illustration → http://pentagora.it/pomo/pomona/testi/fichi/fico_brogiotto.php" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Full text (you must be logged)

or browse [http://ucanr.edu/datastoreFiles/391-296.pdf]Condit[/url]
I hope to be as helpful.

Subject: Hello from Sardinia Replies: 50
Posted By: Fico Views: 2,071
 
Thanks to all!

Hi lampo,
i have had exchanges of cuttings with some portuguese, i received Colhão de burro, Três num prato, Pingo de mel. 
Very nice figs in your pictures, i heard that portuguese varieties are among the best; what variety in the photos?

I'm interested in figs that require caprification, for me it's a fascinating practice, and i'm curious to see the results. I read that in common varieties can even be counterproductive.

Caprifigs are very common here, people don't know caprification, and not practice caprification, at least in my area. 

If you are interested, we can exchange! I've some interesting varieties, i think it would be perfect for portugal.

Subject: Hello from Sardinia Replies: 50
Posted By: Fico Views: 2,071
 
Thank you very much, it's very nice to receive a welcome so warm.

Yes jdsfrance, there is the wasp, but i think i have almost only parthenocarpic varieties, maybe some of my new varieties are san pedro, i have to check.
I'd like to try to grow figs that require caprification, like Smyrna types.

I would appreciate if someone could explain to me how to purchase from Montserrat, perhaps with a private message, if you cannot publicly.

Subject: Hello from Sardinia Replies: 50
Posted By: Fico Views: 2,071
 
Thank you!
rcantor, Monserrat "donates" cuttings to those who request it?

Subject: Hello from Sardinia Replies: 50
Posted By: Fico Views: 2,071
 
Hi rafaelissimo,
the problem with varieties found in USA is that in America people gave a new name to varieties unknown, like "Italian", "Sicilian" "Genoa", then is difficult to identify these varieties with with their real names.
Have to add, that all variety have a lot of dialectal synonyms.
Nurseries also give new names to the plants, even for a matter of marketing.
"Geographical" names, often are misleading, because even if the mother plant was found them, does not mean that it is native to that place.
In Italy, for example, "Genovese" fig is usually "Brogiotto bianco". The sardinian Genovese fig is another variety, which received that name because imported in Sardinia from Genoa.
In USA there is White and Black Genoa, that in Italy will surely have another name, or maybe they aren't even italian!

cis4elk, i will certainly update you on my figs.

Subject: Hello from Sardinia Replies: 50
Posted By: Fico Views: 2,071
 
I try to answer to all ...
For me it is relatively easy to grow figs, i live in the center of Mediterranean Sea, the climate is ideal for the fig: hot and dry summers, indispensable for obtaining good quality fruit, and mild winters, so it's definitely harder to grow figs for the majority of users of this forum, rather than for me, therefore those who cultivate figs in difficult conditions, like much of north America has all my admiration.

I grow, in addition to sardinian varieties, some italian and european varieties.
Mostly are little plants, some bought, other from cuttings.
In Italy, and even more in Sardinia, are on sale the same old varieties, about ten (Brogiotto bianco and nero, Verdino, Dottato...), it is difficult to obtain new varieties, especially those rare and endangered.
Some nurseries, given the growing interest for this species, started importing from France the most popular french varieties.

At present i've approx. 30 varieties, the most common of my zone, of Italy and of France.

If you like i can take pictures of my plants, but there is little to see; in the coming months certainly will post photos of leaves and fruits.

@Luzzu: which zone of Sardinia?


Subject: Hello from Sardinia Replies: 50
Posted By: Fico Views: 2,071
 
Thanksfor the welcome, i'm very happy to be in this forum, i read so many times a lot of topics from this site.

Rob, i heard about "Macca" fig, but i never seen. Pictures or links? Googling i find nothing.
You know, "macca" in sardinian means crazy, is funny, i don't know why a fig it's called crazy!

Subject: Hello from Sardinia Replies: 50
Posted By: Fico Views: 2,071
 
Hello everyone!

First, i apologize for my english, i have several difficulties with the language...
I deal with agriculture and gardening as a hobby, since i was a child.
From a few years i  discovered the wonderful world of figs, and i started to collect them.

Before starting to gather information on figs, i cultivated some varieties, but didn't know the enormous diversity , and i was convinced that there were basically only "blacks" and "white" figs.

Luckily, in a few years, i managed to pick up a decent collection, and new varieties and new varieties are added each year (most are all small plants).

In my country the fig is cultivated for centuries, and is one of most common and important fruiting plants.
Unfortunately, the sardinian varieties haven't been thoroughly investigated.
I'm trying to retrieve old varieties;  i have found some in my village, and in others.

Here a document in italian about cultivars of northern Sardinia (you must be logged in this site for reading).


In the future i hope to be able to talk in more detail of my figs, and posting some photos.

I don't know what to write...Thank you, and greetings from Sardinia. Bye...