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Subject: cuttings from Portugal arrived Replies: 41
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No Bordissot Negra is like the others.  He is saying that BM is similar to BN and may have the same genetic traits description but does not match entirely.

Subject: does plants know how much head room they have? (pix added) Replies: 21
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Yes I agree with Wills.

In my experiments, it seems less light and you get weaker branching.  I see it happen in a similar fashion where you have heat to grow and less light in rooms.

The bins should be the opposite in growth pattern.  Interesting.

Just be careful I have seen figs grow too fast and get weak as summer approached. 

A person that used to be on the forum wiped out his collection  because they grew way too fast during winter months.  They were not starters but I can see the same thing happening.

Subject: cuttings from Portugal arrived Replies: 41
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Sounds good. But Maybe UNK Black Madeira may have been easier.LOL

Subject: cuttings from Portugal arrived Replies: 41
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Some still have the initials but it is getting neglected unfortunately.

Subject: Sorry Replies: 36
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Yes Anton Lavey would be Proud!

Subject: Sorry Replies: 36
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What the hell is wrong with you Vince!  No body pushed anybody around are you kidding me. Being repsonsible for what you trade around is everybody's responsibility. Get over yourself as well.

Subject: cuttings from Portugal arrived Replies: 41
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The only ? is which one that is all.  Suppose to be at least 5 blacks on the island.

Subject: cuttings from Portugal arrived Replies: 41
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No there was never any pics of leaves or fruit. The only thing ever posted was a few cuttings with immature leaves.

I don't understand why new comers are being so obstinate about the Black Madeira.  You did not get Black Madeira.  Maybe it matches in the future but for now it is not BM.

Subject: White fig porn not for the faint of heart (Martin) Replies: 107
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Oohh you like?!?

Subject: Sal's Gene vs Sal Corleone Replies: 4
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I firmly believe that is a consideration on the splitting. In ground makes a difference in performance.

Subject: White fig porn not for the faint of heart (Martin) Replies: 107
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Love me some PORN!

Subject: Grafting Pictures Replies: 25
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Do you do any other type of grafts?

Subject: I'm looking for VERY cold hardy figs zone 6 or above Replies: 44
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You'll only find out if you try.

Subject: Excellent information regarding growing figs in pots. Replies: 5
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Bills a good guy. But as good as his mushroom compost is, it is crazy heavy.  Not my cup of tea in the soil world.

Subject: A couple questions Replies: 8
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I disagree if its air pots. You have everything to worry about.  Make sure to water well during winter.  They don't act like regular pots.  I lost 3 rare varieties to them

Subject: Looking for some varities ASAP Replies: 5
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There are several nice nursery's out there that will deliver. Probably for the spring.

Subject: German Giant Fig Replies: 20
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I won't say the same. But to me taste is similar and leave pattern is close enough to say its at least a variant.  If a person likes BT and has to have it in their collection, GBG is the way to go. The pic at top is of a different fig.

Subject: German Giant Fig Replies: 20
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The very top fig appears to be a completely different fig from what we discuss as 'Giant Black German'.  To me GBG is a better tasting BT.  Respectably disagreeing with Marius who I believe brother found it in Germany. I believe this since I have both growing side by side and the characteristics match almost to a 'T'.



Subject: Quick and Dirty SWC Pictorial Replies: 11
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FMD didn't care for the roots occupying the reservoir.  It doesn't bother me. I just chop them the next season and add new soil.

Subject: I'm looking for VERY cold hardy figs zone 6 or above Replies: 44
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Hey Andy I was taking a shot but it wasn't at you.  LOL this is figs and gardening.  When you almost die from 9 shots  to the back and head,  Figs are the least of my worries. Cin Cin!

Subject: I'm looking for VERY cold hardy figs zone 6 or above Replies: 44
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Herman has been doing this a very long time.  You need analytical evidence for an extended period of time.  What works on the east coast will not necessarily work where you live.  What happens in one year may not work the next year.  Weather patterns change from year to year. One year may be unseasonably warm while the next may see temperatures of Biblical proportions.  A 5 year projection is essential in producing an accurate thesis on potential production value.

Just because a twig is stuck in the ground and produces the 2nd year doesn't mean it will produce the 4th year.  Unfortunately figs don't seem to work under the assumption of empirical data.  

It is very naive and irresponsible to recommend anything based on nothing but another persons data before producing your own results.

Subject: Quick and Dirty SWC Pictorial Replies: 11
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globalbuckets.org

Subject: Quick and Dirty SWC Pictorial Replies: 11
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Why did you go with those tubs? Do you find them sturdy enough? How are they with the sun?  Do you find it will eventually get brittle and break?

Using the Home Depot buckets I find will last me maybe 4 to 5 years, but I am not sure. Maybe I luck out and I get more. They still seem pretty good but I have plants in older 5 gallon painters buckets and they are basically done.  Brittle, hard and just falling apart.

I am entering my 3rd year using the HD buckets and they don't seem to have too much wear and tear.

So far so good.  I swear by them and I plan on transferring most of other potted ones to them.

I don't find the roots to be that much of a problem or they just don't bother me. I trim them off and re-size the root ball and add new dirt if need be.

I love them for several reasons:

-Great growth

-I can set them up to automatically water

-Lighter mix

-Add fertilizer once a year

-I get a mature tree quicker with better fruit

I put my Panevino White in it and I had big fruit in its 3rd year.  I had Fruit on my Fico Preto 18 months after first root.

These are not for everyone but I love them and really won't use any other mix or fertilizer.  My results have been excellent and I feel for me that why mess with success. Plus I can stack my trees in my garage because of the sturdiness of the buckets.

Subject: Mad002 Replies: 53
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Well you have about .000000000005% chance of that being a common fig.

Subject: Belleclare figs. Replies: 80
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Yeah LOL- he knew what he had.  I bet he got close to what he was asking for.  The closing of the nursery only boosted their value.

Subject: Belleclare figs. Replies: 80
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Approx.18 months ago there was one for sale on Craigslist from LI.  I believe the person lived basically around the corner from the old nursery spot. Wanted about 8 for it if memory serves right.

Subject: Will the real Brown Turkey please stand up! Replies: 53
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No he was selling his whole collection. For the price I paid I don't feel like I got my money's worth. There were a bunch of Brown turkey's and Celestes that he thought were all different.  

Subject: Will the real Brown Turkey please stand up! Replies: 53
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Proud to be Elitist.

Subject: Colar d'Albatera Replies: 35
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I believe that has Moor roots and is also known as Noral and Donegal.

Subject: Colar d'Albatera Replies: 35
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Probably around 3k. Oh and a lot of French figs have Spanish origins.

Subject: Figs and Deer Replies: 15
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I have yet to see any around them but pics of my Mother-in law has worked wonders.

Subject: Colar d'Albatera Replies: 35
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The other thing as well:

Both Baud and Sr Pons have both Colar ( not necessarily d'albetera) listed.  But Baud has listed Abicou seperately and Pons has Albacor listed seperatedly from Colar. Food for thought.

Subject: what type of container and mix do you use? Replies: 20
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Frank

I have not been growing figs in containers as long as you have but I don't buy into the need for fast draining soils. I use 7:2:1 peat perlite vermiculite mix for all potted plants including self watering containers and regular black nursery pots.  I have never lost one single plant because of the soil.

I know different soil components work for different people but I think the idea of fast draining soils as absolute is a bit misleading.

For all the experimenting I have done, I have come to the conclusion that Figs will grow in just about anything.  I have only lost a fig cutting ( some to just starting roots) or starter because of acclimation to outside temps/light, not because of soil composition or retaining of water.

This past summer, I stuck a bunch of extra cuttings into pots filled with just plain peat and had about 70% root. Yes some died for various reasons including too much water but I couldn't deny the overall success rate. The only thing I don't like about this method is that it slows my production down by a year.  If started inside the previous winter, I can get figs by my 2nd growing year or about 18 to 20 months later from initial rooting.

Even my SWC are opened up top to allow rain water to penetrate and help release fertilizer/ lime.  I have not lost one SWC either.

I am by no means saying my way is the best or only way, but by using my mix, I save on weight of the pots as well as having no problems with root rot.

Subject: Colar d'Albatera Replies: 35
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Hey Jen you might want to narrow down your 'wishlist' a whew bit. Sr Pons only has about 1000+ and locates new ones every year.

Just a suggestion. LOL

Subject: Expanding fig collection Replies: 14
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And Barry's only a tenth of the way there.

Subject: Belleclare figs. Replies: 80
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In my experience, you are better off making 5 to 7 holes around the edge and fill with limestone after the first year. I put a lot of lime powder in my pots when I pot up at beginning of 1st season.. Granular is better.  The powder gets caked up and tends not to leach in if applied on top.

Subject: Belleclare figs. Replies: 80
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LMAO!!!

Subject: Colar d'Albatera Replies: 35
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Yes its the same.  The cracking is awesome on the skin.


Subject: Cuttings after 1 week Replies: 8
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Just a tip: biggest nemesis with Spag moss is too much water. Squeeze the moss as much as possible and fluff it up when around the cutting in bag or cup. Also you should break it up as much as possible before wetting it. It gives it more volume and allows the roots room to stretch out. You will get less chance of mold on tips.

I have also found that allowing the roots to get a bit longer than recommended helps to establish the vital lateral roots once in cups. These are your feeder roots that allow nutrients to enter the tree as it grows.

Subject: new and old bin setup. Replies: 12
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Be careful of peat pot method. As effective as it is, if too much moisture is present around peat pot in cup, it will grow mold and make its way to the cutting. Water conservatively.

Subject: UPDATE: Maltese Beauty DEAD (pic) Replies: 36
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Every cutting acts differently, even from the same branch.

But remember, success now does not mean a live plant later. Any little variable can upset the balance e.g: too much water, too little light, parasites, fungus and more. Wait until summer before any jubilation. Even acclimating outside can be death if not done correctly.

Subject: Belleclare figs. Replies: 80
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It was the largest exchange of international figs for its time.  Some of their figs are still considered rare and some of the better ones. This was in a time before forums and exchanges among members.

Subject: Fertilizing Cuttings Replies: 20
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If you feel the need, use a slow release. Otherwise there really is no rush.  Better a small live cutting then a dead big one.

Subject: color of rooting bin... Replies: 9
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Go to Home Depot right after Christmas.  They will have translucent bins for Christmas Decorations that are about 18 inches high with a hinged lid.  They are usually located in the same area as the outdoor christmas decorations were located. Keep it propped open with a Lego block for air circulation. They are Huge! They are better than anything you can find elsewhere.

If you don't like the lid, take it off and get clear trash bags and tape to the top with one end open to prevent mold.  Or use Saran wrap in sheets across the top.

Subject: Black Madeira fig Replies: 106
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Kinda of like showing a picture of Angelina Jolie in your dating profile and really looking like Sandra Bernhard.

Subject: Black Madeira fig Replies: 106
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First pic is NdC

Subject: Why not start a cutting in a 3-gallon pot? Replies: 33
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Sticking a cutting in a pot of dirt is no different than sticking in the ground.  

Subject: Why not start a cutting in a 3-gallon pot? Replies: 33
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I didn't even do that much.  I threw them in only peat moss.  I have come to the conclusion that Figs will grow in almost any medium. I's the conditions that matter.

Subject: Why not start a cutting in a 3-gallon pot? Replies: 33
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Wait until May, stick in soil, keep moist and wait. Fertilize with slow release after 3 months.  Done.

Subject: Why not start a cutting in a 3-gallon pot? Replies: 33
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Yes