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Subject: Mr. Robin's inventory list for the reminder of 2011 Replies: 16
Posted By: chuckchuck Views: 1,459
 
18 + shipping right? Louisiana to California = :x

Subject: Shocked at price of fresh figs online Replies: 43
Posted By: chuckchuck Views: 7,116
 
I still don't have any fruit producing plants, but one of my co-worker happens to like gardening quite a bit and happened to have two Black Mission trees in his backyard. I happened to strike a conversation and next day I got 30 or so figs from his trees.

Now I really want my trees to get going.


Subject: Spider Mites Replies: 12
Posted By: chuckchuck Views: 864
 
I've read somewhere that Spider Mites love the heat and dry weather, so the hotter and drier the better for them.
I didn't use any soap or any kind of pest control on my plants until I noticed this, I had some Home Defense spray that I used around the perimeters of the garden to keep the ants away, but nothing on the plants.
I did my first application of NEEM Concentrate (NEEM Oil extract and water) and BT Worm killer on the plants and woahh today its like a ghost town in the garden, not even ants in the ground because of the diatomaceous earth I sprinkled all over.

I will do this all over again next Saturday the latest unless I get some time after work before then.

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Originally Posted by noss
Is there more of a chance of spider mites and other pests if the plants are under shade cloth?

I hope not because to know the temp is 7-10 degrees less is welcome news.

What kind of insecticidal soap do you use? 

Thanks,

noss

Subject: Spider Mites Replies: 12
Posted By: chuckchuck Views: 864
 
The temp under that area is always a good 7-10 degrees less, the 50% shade cloth really works well there. Its usually kept moist just because there are so many different veggies growing there.

Subject: a disturbing fig video Replies: 58
Posted By: chuckchuck Views: 2,745
 
wow.......

Subject: Spider Mites Replies: 12
Posted By: chuckchuck Views: 864
 
Just North of Los Angeles. Not dry, but very very hot. 95ish avg. this past week. A couple 100's the last couple days.

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Originally Posted by gorgi
Spider mites alright!
You must live in a very dry area...

Subject: Spider Mites Replies: 12
Posted By: chuckchuck Views: 864
 
Thanks for your advice, I just got home from the Nursery where I got NEEM Concentrate (Organic) for the spider mites, and BT Worm killer for the caterpillars eating my Romaine and Iceberg lettuces :(
And just to throw in the 'just in case' I got some diatomaceous earth to spread around the garden.

Here's the pictures Jason
(Roma Tomatoes with a few spider mites, really small) Damage is evident :(
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(One of my fig cuttings with spider mites!!!)
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Subject: Spider Mites Replies: 12
Posted By: chuckchuck Views: 864
 
Hey guys I recently got a new job, thank god, despite the job situation going around, and I have been away from the garden for the better part of the week, I returned yesterday to discover that my tomato plants are infested by Spider Mites. I mean some plants have at least some tips completely covered by these small critters, one plant has been going from green to a off yellow-greyish color in the last week.
I need to do something! Please help me, my fig trees are a couple feet away, and dont want this to spread.

(I keep my fig trees there because I built a shade area, 50%, covering the veggies about 13x13ft)


Subject: Ronde De Bordeaux Airlayer Replies: 20
Posted By: chuckchuck Views: 1,377
 
Martin did you cover your plant at all after cutting it from the mother? I cut mine about 8 days ago from the tree very similar root structure but it had a tough time getting used to its new environment, I did for get about covering it with a bag for about 30 hrs or so. It now only has one leaf on it, from about 10 or so the branch originally had.
I have another branch going, but its a little bit bigger, this one has roughly 45 days in perlite. The already cut down was done with PM.


Subject: Rotten luck with cuttings Replies: 27
Posted By: chuckchuck Views: 1,844
 
With figs its a hit or miss with the mix composition, I've had some luck with soil mixes and better luck with rooting mixes like (SPM and perlite). For me it was the practice and experimentation, accompanied with a lot of patience. If compost works for you with figs then by all means you should go that route, for many of us enthusiast we've come to find a particular percentage of certain rooting mixes that work.
I had a terrible start with a few local trees (mostly look like capri's :( ) but they offered a great learning experience for the future. I've found one or two trees that I suspect to give good looking fruit that I can now employ my skills found through much disappointment. 
I've had very good success rooting with SPM and perlite mix at around 50/50 and potting at around 40-50/50 perlite/potting soil. But I also have a few cuttings that are under 50% shade cloth that are growing great and where rooted in 100% perlite.
But in the end it comes down to what works for you.


Subject: Air layer time frame Replies: 24
Posted By: chuckchuck Views: 1,505
 
Something curious that I've noticed from my airlayers was that most of the roots don't come out from the cut, but always just above or below, although the cut section does change in texture to resemble root tissue.

Subject: Pictures of New Rooting Technique Replies: 44
Posted By: chuckchuck Views: 4,199
 
Thanks Dan. I will add from my experience with peat pots is that you should go for Jiffy pots, I've tried 3 or 4 different brands and roots have a very hard time penetrating the pots with the other brands and might die (my exp. with strawberries)

Subject: some suckers I took out doing good Replies: 11
Posted By: chuckchuck Views: 766
 
You're gonna hit a wall eventually, I had a stump in regular ole' soil and it grew some growth then all of a sudden it started to die, I figured it was dead already and I repotted with MG and perlite and the stump recovered and it has more growth than ever.
I would take all the advice these guys gave you and repot them, its going to be worst down the line if they go downhill and waiting to see if they recover again.


Subject: Mission Replies: 7
Posted By: chuckchuck Views: 802
 
I thought that was normal and my theory is that is caused by the sun. It is sort of like the plant equivalent of a tan, fruit trees like peaches develop a red tint to the actual fruit from sunlight exposure and so do their young branches.

Subject: Roots on cuttings Replies: 23
Posted By: chuckchuck Views: 2,057
 
Another curveball.

I went to check on my air layer of my neighbors Leadwell Unk, and notice a few brebas has dropped. I picked them up, they were soft and they had a nice color to them. I wasn't expecting anything amazing because they were all chewed up by squirrels, but I was still curious because I haven't been able to ID this tree.

This is what I found;
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Where do I start?!
Well I can now admit that I am somewhat discourage by this crop to anything good that might develop in the future. The pictures show what clearly are syconia of male and short female type, I could not see many long style syconia that would lead me to believe this might be a female fig tree but rather a caprifig.
The more mature female syconia turned out to have almost mature fig wasps in them, within the fig there were also mature male wasps. Another characteristic that shows that it might be a caprifig.
The second picture showed the freshest fig, the taste was mildly sweet, not bland, or sour. It had the most wonderful smell I must admit. This is the only positive I can find from this new discovery.
I am almost 75% sure this might turn out to be a caprifig, edible? Well that is still to be seen.

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Subject: Did I find a one or two caprifig trees? Replies: 8
Posted By: chuckchuck Views: 1,927
 
Thanks a lot Jon, I do believe its a learning curve with these plants.
I was searching through the pictures I took of both what I believe to be RIPE S1 Breba and unripe S1 main crop. Maybe it clears my questions once and for all or not.

This is a closer view of the cross section of one of the RIPE S1 Breba's.
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S1 Main Crop UNRIPE
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S1 Main Crop Cross section
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My Conclusion:
S1 Breba clearly shows short female syconia, with possibility of some male flowers, pollen tip flowers, which is more clearly demonstrated by your picture Jon of what I am assuming to be a true caprifig.
If we just look at this evidence I would rule 100% on it being a caprifig tree.
But wait a minute, S1 main crop is giving me something else. Syconia on these figs are clearly mostly long female syconia, WHAT!!!?? I'm puzzle because long female syconia is evidence of an edible fig, of what I believe they refer as a female fig tree, or Common Fig.
So then we have Malli's comment on the Gall flower phenomena, which I myself find as the only possible answer to my original question.
S1 is a common fig that produces a Breba crop that is like a caprifig, but main crop is that of a female fig tree. Or this is just an edible caprifig.

S2 is a common fig, syconia is long female flowers, as can be seen from the picture with the dead wasp in post #1. Which I am now speculating to be a Mission because of the leaves and the shape of the unripe figs.
in comparison to this USDA/UCD cultivar:



(Just poke thru to GW and someone had a similar dilemma, Breba was inedible, everyone figured to be caprifig, and main crop was edible)

BTW, As I was writing this post I kept going back to Malli's comment about the Syconia, Google Search, and some university sites describing the different kinds of syconia, and I get all flipped around, at least in my head.

(1.5 hrs after starting this post I'm done.)

Thanks again Jon.

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Originally Posted by pitangadiego
The  way to tell is t look at the interior of the fig. Cut it in half, and shake it. The pollen will fall out of it. That is a caprifig.

As soon as you get a handle on one thing, a new wrinkle pops up.

If yours are wild trees, from seeds, they have a 50% chance of being caprifigs (male).

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Subject: Did I find a one or two caprifig trees? Replies: 8
Posted By: chuckchuck Views: 1,927
 
Just something to add if it makes a difference. Here are some pics from Google Maps of the area where I found the trees,

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S1 and S2 can be seen in the aerial pic, possibly from around 2009. The circles show where the fig trees are, I don't know anything about the tree next to S1 because I haven't reached that one yet. But, from this picture I can see that S1 is not that old, and if it is its just been cut to the ground several times because the tree suckers out like a shrub.  S2 is much more established and it looks at least 10-15 years old.

Here is S1 as it presently looks
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Subject: Did I find a one or two caprifig trees? Replies: 8
Posted By: chuckchuck Views: 1,927
 
Is there some characteristics that would point out that they are caprifigs? ie. leaves, brebas or lack thereof, how the figs show up on the branch?
Because the two trees are so different in how they develop figs, ie. clusters at the end of the branch vs figs going all along the new growth.

Thanks,

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Originally Posted by pitangadiego
At this point, they look like caprifigs. However, some of my brebas this year (and years previous to this) look like caprifigs, even though they are clearly not caprifig varieties. I have a paper, that I just received on some aspects of figs that are common, but can behave like caprifigs. I haven't read it yet, but it might explain what you are seeing.

Subject: Wilting/drooping leaves on young cutting Replies: 7
Posted By: chuckchuck Views: 1,704
 
Yes they had 2-3 drain holes at the bottom. I took off any covering and let them air out for about 2 hrs and it seems the condensation is almost all gone, I did poke a lot of holes on the side, but the leaves do look a bit worst from yesterday, some are darker and considerably dry.
This is really puzzling me because I had a couple cuttings growing with pomegranate cuttings, at nearly 100% humidity and only 20 minute 'airing-out' per day and they rooted extremely good.

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These figs are really driving me crazy, I really can't seem to find the right balance or there are just to darn stubborn.

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Originally Posted by satellitehead
Are there any holes at all in the cup? If not, and there is a bag over the top, insignificant water is getting out, and insignificant air is getting in.

Subject: Wilting/drooping leaves on young cutting Replies: 7
Posted By: chuckchuck Views: 1,704
 
@Ken: Thanks a lot, I will make some more holes on the sides of the cups.

@Grant and Jason: It has crossed my mind that there is too much moisture in the cups, but I have 9 or so cuttings right next to this that are doing just fine. I've only really watered the cuttings when I initially started them, i.e. soaked the perlite, after I would just mist the top of the cup with a max of 1 oz of water once a week. The cuttings are outside with just a trash bag over them, its doesn't make a good seal and there is plenty of air running inside.

Again, I don't know much, I will go make some holes and see if I can get some oxygen and maybe help some water evaporate. I'll see what happens and keep you fellas updated.


Subject: Did I find a one or two caprifig trees? Replies: 8
Posted By: chuckchuck Views: 1,927
 
Should I even bother rooting any of these trees? I don't even know if any of the figs might turn out edible, I have quite a few cuttings and they're pushing new growth faster than any of my other cuttings, so I'm kind of bummed to see that they might be a Bust.

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Originally Posted by loslunasfarms
It sure looks like it.

Subject: Did I find a one or two caprifig trees? Replies: 8
Posted By: chuckchuck Views: 1,927
 
(I will be  talking about two trees I found close to my house, S1 and S2, these are in an empty lot about 75 ft from each other.)

S1:
I just realized this after picking some breba that I thought was ready to drop and hopefully edible. To my disappointment it was neither, well I figured after looking at the inside. I took these off two different branches that had brebas, they were soft and at least two were drooping. What caught my eye was the color, I had visited and collected figs from this tree a week or so ago with immature figs, they were lime green and were really hard, these were very light in color. Immediately I was excited because I could taste something that I might be growing, 9 year old wood cuttings and about 20 new growth cuttings.


S1 Breba ('NOT RIPE'):
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S1 Breba ('RIPE'):
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More pictures of this tree: http://figs4funforum.websitetoolbox.com/post/show_single_post?pid=1268965608&postcount=13


S2:
I manage to reach the another tree at an opposite end of the lot. To my amazement this tree had around 1000+ figs, it was huge, around 15 ft high and maybe 30 ft across. I could not see any breba on the branches and all I could see was main crop. The leaves and figs on this one were very distinct from S1 so I was excited to find maybe two different varieties in very close proximity. So I took a branch with figs and all, after some examination I found this:

Fig clusters:

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This is how most of the leaves looked like, 3 lobes some 5's:
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And the Figs:
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The figs were dark green and unripe, hard and not so big, that was my impression.

Opening some I noticed some critters, I figured they might have been ants because I've gotten some ants on a few branches before.
But then one fig had two, another three, which with two still alive, and one had one that was already dead, which I have here pictured.
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The red arrow shows where I found the little guy.
I came back to my computer and started to google 'caprifigs' and 'fig wasps' and just as I thought these were indeed fig wasps.
So I'm sitting here kind of bummed because S1 Breba 'RIPE' had no taste at all and S2 figs had fig wasps in them, two very prominent features of Caprifigs.

I'm no expert, but I do hold advance degrees in Googling and that is the conclusion im getting to. Any input?

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Subject: Wilting/drooping leaves on young cutting Replies: 7
Posted By: chuckchuck Views: 1,704
 
I noticed this yesterday when I was doing my daily airing-out on a group of cuttings I have under my avocado tree. The leaves have looked very sad since about maybe yesterday or the day before. I mist them maybe once every other day or once a week, and I water them as needed, usually if the perlite doesn't stick together and looks dry or too loose. The roots did brown somewhat, from a white tannish to a brown clay color. I know roots sometimes get this color after time, but mine looked healthy and very light until recently.
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But this particular cutting I did mist and water yesterday because I figured it might of been a little hot in the afternoon. I live just north of Los Angeles and it has been unseasonably cool, overcast into late afternoon with 60ish temps and with sun later with 70ish temps.
I've had at least two sudden death cuttings this season and don't want this to replicate. I also have at least two cuttings suffering from severe FMV to the point that one has bumps that look like small pox on the bigger leaves.

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Subject: Vista Replies: 55
Posted By: chuckchuck Views: 6,224
 
:)
I usually don't mind that, if they do ask I can tell them I'm taking some samples because I thought they were poison ivy and they had rub against my legs one time and wanted to verify their species at my University.
If it was the owner I would tell him I was cutting some because they tripped me when I was walking on the side walk, and if he doesn't let me have some I'm gonna sue him. LOL.

It's usually nothing very sophisticated, I usually don't even park, just drive up, walk to the side walk and take a 4 or 5 foot branch, without any figs if I can help it. 20 seconds, I'm on my way home.

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Originally Posted by noss
I can see it now, Chuckchuck, you in your Ninja fig-stealing outfit, sneaking through the city on fig raids.....

I can just see the expressions on the cops' faces as you attempt an explanation as to why you are dressed like that, carrying a sackful of figs and cuttings.  ROTHLMHO!

Subject: Vista Replies: 55
Posted By: chuckchuck Views: 6,224
 
LOL @ 'Gorilla Gardening'.

I myself just went on my 3rd drive by of a lot with huge dark fig trees. The lot is closed, but unoccupied, weeds up to my waist, but those trees were calling my name and I started doing runs first at night and now both day and night. I've managed quite a few cuttings, hopefully something good.

I have two victims on my street that I might just hit one of these nights, a huge pomegranate orchard was just spotted today on a street over and added to my list of Rogue Cutting


Subject: Roots on cuttings Replies: 23
Posted By: chuckchuck Views: 2,057
 
Well just a little update on my Leadwell Unknown that I started inside on a small 'bed' with some pomegranate cuttings:
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I took two of the cuttings because it had a good healthy amount of root coming out from the perlite.

This is how they looked like out of the bed:
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I used about equal parts MG mix and perlite, but added a little more peat moss too help with moisture.
I was gonna transplant a third cutting, but I ran out of my mix and was too lazy to mix some more. :)

Like I had noticed before these cuttings started a few days after some that I have outside rooted not only faster, but much more density, although the ones outside have considerable amount more of green growth. I attribute this to the amount of sunlight they receive, inside cuttings were next to my desk in the middle of my room, and the ones outside are under my avocado tree.


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Subject: Roots on cuttings Replies: 23
Posted By: chuckchuck Views: 2,057
 
I just finished going through SteveNJ's rooting experiment which included much of what I've at least seen with my current growth cutting. I definitely did not have any white fluff, but instead those 'root caps'. As soon as I saw budding I decided to put in in rooting media.
By no means was my environment controlled or monitored like SteveNJ's, I just threw it in water under my avocado tree, with different temps and humidity, unprotected, etc.

I started quite a handful of cuttings this week and I started to document my procedure, if I see any good from it I guess I can share it here.

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Originally Posted by satellitehead

* The off-white stuff is "Barking", which isn't roots (yet), but may be a site for roots.

Subject: Roots on cuttings Replies: 23
Posted By: chuckchuck Views: 2,057
 
noss this is my experimental cutting I was talking about.
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The BLACK arrow show where I saw the greatest number of root bumps and the RED shows the bud that I used as a soil line.

As of today that's what I have. The top dried up a little more, because its not covered. But the bud its well on its way.
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Originally Posted by noss
Is it possible to root an all green sprout that got knocked off of the tip of one of my trees?  I've had it in water for several weeks now and nothing has happened.  The leaves (tiny) haven't died either.  I removed a large leaf, but left three tiny leaves on the tip of the sprout.

The stem keeps getting that white stuff on it, not mold.  If I should ask this on another thread, I can do that.



And as a side note, this is the only cutting that survived from my March cutting experimenting.
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The buds turned brown and dessicated, they fell of and these grew in its place.

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Subject: Roots on cuttings Replies: 23
Posted By: chuckchuck Views: 2,057
 
The little white bumps on the new growth stems are roots. I had a branch with old and new and just for the heck of it I took the green branch and stuck it in a milk container with just water. One week later I had bumps all over the stem.
I've gone ahead and changed the water to a soil/perlite mix and I now have a bud coming out.
I've decided to do the same with all the cuttings I got yesterday that were green this time im putting it in a tall container and im enclosing it in a bag to help with the moisture lost. Because that is the main problem with new growth cuttings they lose water faster than year old wood.

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Originally Posted by noss
Is it possible to root an all green sprout that got knocked off of the tip of one of my trees?  I've had it in water for several weeks now and nothing has happened.  The leaves (tiny) haven't died either.  I removed a large leaf, but left three tiny leaves on the tip of the sprout. The stem keeps getting that white stuff on it, not mold.  If I should ask this on another thread, I can do that. Chuckchuck, I wish I had your "problems" with rooting.....  :) noss

Subject: Roots on cuttings Replies: 23
Posted By: chuckchuck Views: 2,057
 
I don't know if anyone is reading this, but I would like your help ID'ing this.
I found it in an empty lot driving around, it was a pretty big tree, maybe 15 or 17 feet off the ground, 25 or so branches coming off the ground. One of the branches I cut off had a single fig, it was dark so I couldn't tell just how many or if it had any other figs.
I was surprised by the size of these leaves, the two other trees I've taken cuttings from and another neighbors orchard has no tree with leaves this size.

Either way these are going to be cut up and rooted.



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Subject: Heat wave this week what to do with pots Replies: 45
Posted By: chuckchuck Views: 2,502
 
I've also read something along those lines, and it makes sense.
If you water in the morning there is always an opportunity for water on any leaves and such to evaporate and dry off, helping prevent fungus and other diseases.
Watering at night just sets up many of the ugly stuff to grow in ideal conditions, ie wet, humid and sometimes hot (at least with late spring, summer weather) that might hurt your plant.

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Originally Posted by satellitehead
I was watching a gardening show on TV the other day that suggested morning watering was best, and that there are several complications and diseases related to watering in the evening.

I can't recall what the show was, so I can't found this comment within anything concrete.  I've turned to watering in the morning just in case.

Subject: Roots on cuttings Replies: 23
Posted By: chuckchuck Views: 2,057
 
Just an update to my fig growing experience.

The cutting pictured here (top):
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Turned to this:
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The bottom cutting grew three leaves then it suddenly went downhill, I believe it needed a little more water, but it never recuperated.
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I've changed it from several mediums to see if it was just lacking something (nutrients, etc.) and it hasn't completely died, but it seems like it might start to desiccate any day now.

But out of all the ones I started a few months ago the one that survived was the short trunk planted straight to soil (pictured below)
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Now to my more recent cuttings that I started 3 and 2.5 weeks ago. There are mixed from my Neightbors, which I call Leadwell Unknown, which are dark figs with breba and Mobil Unknown, that I found near a gas station, which are also dark and had breba.
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All of these are 100% weathered, they were started under my avocado tree and get early and evening sun, direct and indirect, been having some windy days and sometimes I find the box uncovered. I've had near 100% success rooting these, except for a Leadwell Unk as can be seen in the bottom right on top of the Hydrangea cutting.

And these are another experiment, all Leadwell Unk that I was force to start because the branch that I was gonna air-layer broke off. They are growing in very high humidity with some pomegranate cuttings, possibly Wonderful (80% sure). I inserted two straws around the bag and from there I spray water every 2 or 3 days. I used to mist all the cuttings, but I was getting too many roots on top of the 'soil' line and I only mist the pomegranate cuttings. They are covered with a clear plastic bag to keep humidity high, mostly for the punica granatum cuttings.
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And a side note, I found this little one in the back of my yard, took it out, was as careful as I could to get roots out and planted it into a 3 gal pot.
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The pot is covered with that MG bag in the background and I water it every other day if it feels dry if not I add another day. I just feel sad for taking it out and putting it on the path to die, but where it was growing there was hardly any sun and it was heavily outnumbered by heavy landscape shrub roots.

I found another fig tree with no breba, but with plenty of main crop growing almost across the street from my house on a sidewalk, I'm going to start some cuttings of that in the coming week.

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Subject: Taking safe food supply for granted Replies: 4
Posted By: chuckchuck Views: 656
 
I have 20 heads of lettuce growing in my home garden right now, I'm glad I planted those a few weeks ago now. Tomatoes are growing strong too, maybe 300-400 from my 5 plants of Juliet Hybrid, Beefstake and Big Boy's.

Subject: Info for Citrus Growers only Replies: 23
Posted By: chuckchuck Views: 1,665
 
Here in s. cal we have a lot of orange trees, I have a huge one in my front yard. I was planning on pruning it in the winter, but I'm afraid I might not get the optimal crop if I cut all the new wood per your tip. Should I prune now and let the new growth start now or prune later?

Subject: Plant ID? Replies: 3
Posted By: chuckchuck Views: 541
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by satellitehead
The picture of the tree with long fingers is Morus Alba, aka White Mulberry.  Fig and Mulberry are directly related.  Morus Alba is a pest, the mulberries aren't tasty at all, and it spreads like wildfire.  The leaf shape changes drastically after a few years to be very boring.


Ahh. Thanks a lot, that explains a lot, I do have a Morus Alba growing in the property, its about 25-30 yrs old, and the fruit is very sweet when its fully ripe, about 10 seconds before it falls lol. But I had two seedlings pop up far away from the original tree already and it kind of scared me for a second because I did googled it and it seemed its hit or miss with the fruit on these, and are very invasive. I rooted a few cuttings and are taking well right now along with 10 or so seedlings that I dug up under the mother tree.
I'm going to try to dig it out, if it makes it or not we'll see.

You always learn something new here at F4F.

Subject: Plant ID? Replies: 3
Posted By: chuckchuck Views: 541
 
I was walking to the very end of my backyard to check on my air layered fig that I'm planning on grabbing from my neighbors neglected fig tree, well the whole branch drops down to the floor of my property so its technically mine or mine to cut down. Well that is besides the point, I went back there and next to one of my lemon tree's I found this weird looking thing coming out of just the side of where the lemon tree is at, it seemed it was cut down before and a few suckers are popping out.
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It really doesn't look like anything that's growing in or around my backyard. I'm curious to find out what it might be.

On a side note, I went snooping around further and found this little guy behind one of my storage sheds.
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Subject: Not recommending this, but... Replies: 20
Posted By: chuckchuck Views: 1,895
 
I have about 12 cuttings from two dark unknowns that I took from my neighbors tree and a local gas station and put them in a box covered with a plastic bag under my avocado tree, and 80% are already budding green. This is turning out better than my previous attempts, that seem to have mostly failed due to unknown reasons, sudden death and transplant shock.

Subject: Mulberry Cuttings Replies: 4
Posted By: chuckchuck Views: 784
 
Thanks Bass, I wasn't aware about those particulars in regards to Mulberry cuttings. Like I said it wasn't planned, but the tree was overgrown. I'll sure prune it in the winter and get more cuttings. The picture is how much of the tree looks like right now.

I did take some cuttings and put them in rooting hormone and stuck them in perlite/soil 'just in case' they did want to root and kept 9 more cuttings in the fridge.

I also added 11 more fig cuttings from two unk's, I hope they root even being so late in the season. Should help that I built a small Polytunnel for them.

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Subject: Cactus pears Replies: 108
Posted By: chuckchuck Views: 8,059
 
I'm so jealous, we have like 20 cactus plans in my backyard, but none seem to produce any fruit, maybe they're not the producing variety and I've been wanting to get one that produces fruit because I love to eat them.

Subject: Mulberry Cuttings Replies: 4
Posted By: chuckchuck Views: 784
 
I had to do some maintenance on my Mulberry tree this afternoon because it was dropping into my driveway and I was going to throw away most of the cuttings, but I wanted to stop by and ask if any of you guys care for cuttings.

The fruit is white to slight purple, its green when its unripe and it grow like crazy.

I would appreciate any fig cuttings you may have to trade.


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Subject: Made some shade today Replies: 39
Posted By: chuckchuck Views: 2,042
 
I did that too, but for my veggies, I have a lot of leafy vegs still in the ground, and So Cal weather is threatening to go scorching.

Subject: Rooting in baggies - 3 wks, green tips, no signs of root growth Replies: 8
Posted By: chuckchuck Views: 907
 
Pretty much what Jason said.
This is my first year playing around with figs too and I was like you, but on steroids, I checked my cuttings 2-3 times a day, and even uncovered some to check for roots every 48 hrs. I've grown from that. haha. But pretty much it takes time and a lot of patience and hopefully good rooting conditions.

Subject: Good place for plastic pots Replies: 15
Posted By: chuckchuck Views: 1,279
 
That looks like a good source at least for my other gardening needs, ie. seed starting.
I found 4-1g, 10-3g, and 2-5g on the side of the street the other day, saved me the hassle of finding some pots.

Subject: Roots on cuttings Replies: 23
Posted By: chuckchuck Views: 2,057
 
Okay here are some pictures of my other cuttings.

The other cutting, from the 'bag' that I had mentioned earlier, was taken out, it just had me running my mind about the soil possibly killing the plant all together. So I took it out from the 40/60 mix into a 99/1 mix, perlite/soil. I think I was still lucky because although a lot of the roots were brown, it had a lot new roots and there were plenty of lighter color roots still hanging in there.

The other pictures are of that piece that I stuck into a 100 soil mix which I later added some perlite. As you can see there is growth coming out of it. It was a total shock because it has been sitting inside that soda container for a while with little maintenance until I notice the growth.

Well I guess I'll post anything interesting in the future.

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Subject: Roots on cuttings Replies: 23
Posted By: chuckchuck Views: 2,057
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by saramc
My question: how long were the roots when you made that transition to 40/60?  I also, would love to see photos as you make your transitions from stage to stage.    Thanks.


The roots were almost 3 inches long. I was also motivated to transfer from the bag to the perlite mix because the roots were sticking to the paper towel and coming off with any minor movement.

I'll try to take pics when I can, when I'm doing the transfers I usually don't have my phone with me, but I'll try getting some shots of the bigger/thicker cuttings if they successfully root, because I'm most interested in those.

Subject: Roots on cuttings Replies: 23
Posted By: chuckchuck Views: 2,057
 
Just a quick update.

I started the two cuttings seen in an earlier post in a bag, both rooted out fast and looked great.
One of the cuttings started to show small leaves so I took it out and put it in perlite/soil mix, 40/60 because I ran out of perlite. Well this one seems to have gotten a little bit of transplant shock because the new growth wilted and fell off. Its still rooting because I can see the roots still growing.
The other I waited after I went to the nursery and got more perlite and this one is taking off, picture attached. Today the new growth is about an inch or a little more than when the picture was taken, and the roots are all over the place. I have both inside ziploc bags rolled up tight, and I have them both shut as best as possible to increase humidity.

I had a total of 6 cuttings this year and 5 rooted, one failed, the rootstock experiment because it didn't make good contact. One cutting surprised me a lot because it was just the very bottom of a 1.5 inch dia. branch that I took of because it was curving and I didnt want to plant it that way if it rooted. Well that small 4 inch piece rooted and it has very small growth all along the trunk. I'll post more pics later.

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Subject: Roots on cuttings Replies: 23
Posted By: chuckchuck Views: 2,057
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by pitangadiego
Learn to love roots where ever they are.

Well I'm glad they're rooting, but it just seemed a little odd they were rooting everywhere but where the 'rooting hormone' and the cut was made.

Here are a couple more shots or the different methods I'm also trying.

One is 'rootstock', where I'm using the root of a shrub tree and the fig branch and trying to graph the two together. To me it seems like a long shot because the shrub tree's trunk seemed a lot different than the fig. (I did nip the figs off of that one, and because of the crazy heat we've had in S. Cali this week the leaves have wilted substantially, I've ripped a couple off and the plant is still fairly green inside.)

The other is a straight to soil method, although I took it out of the soil 4 days after and into perlite. When cleaning the cutting that's when I noticed the big fat roots at the cut. I'm guessing in a containing with 100% humidity and plenty of water it should keep on rooting fine.

This is new to me, so any progress in this project is better than nothing. I don't know the variety, but the tree seems like a fair producer, the mother tree has 3 branches coming out of it and it had about 45 figs in them, from those I took a branch and a half for this project with about 10 figs in them.

If I get a fig tree out of this I'll be happy, I already have 2 lemon trees, an orange tree, a hass avocado tree (crazy producer, 1000+ this season already), another variety avocado tree ?, 2 peach trees, and what I think is an apricot tree, 6+ banana trees, and a huge mulberry tree, plus a veggie garden.

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Subject: Roots on cuttings Replies: 23
Posted By: chuckchuck Views: 2,057
 
This is what I'm talking about in regards to the cuttings.

I will post a couple of other pics as soon as I get them out of my phone.

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Subject: Roots on cuttings Replies: 23
Posted By: chuckchuck Views: 2,057
 
I have a couple questions about the roots on my cuttings.
My neighbor has a fig tree that's not very well taken care of, so I took some clippings about 8 or so days ago and they're rooting fairly good.
I tried a couple different methods to see which would give me the best results, bag, straight to soil and perlite.
Well 5 days after I stuck a 1" thick cutting with 5' long branches into soil I got thick roots coming out of it. Got perlite and inserted it there for better results.
Now 7 days later two cuttings that I used for the bag method are rooting everywhere, all over the stem or length of the cutting. The biggest roots are about half an inch, just this morning, but they were about 4 or so inches from the bottom where the cut was made. I took some roots off from the very top because they were obviously too high up, but I don't know that to do about the fast growing roots at the higher places. The roots at the cut or close to it are still very small in comparison.

This is my first experience with figs, although my parents grew up eating them back where they grew up.