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Subject: Urfa siyah fig Replies: 24
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Dear Ercan,
I might be intereted in some of your varieties. I have shortbsummer climate so only early ripenning main crop figs work. What is your earliest variety and how early it is compared to Michurinska 10 ?

Subject: Balkan's Grey Fig Replies: 29
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Which variety in your collection is the earliest for main crop? And how early is it compared to michurinska 10 ( very common in bulgaria), or to Celeste. Maybe I will be interested in cuttings if you have enough early variety.

Subject: Best Varieties for Zone 5a/4b Replies: 10
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Hello Folk, 
In your climate the most important thing is the length of your summers even in mine the summers are very short, and my guess in your are it is shorter. The other factor is the amount of rain, if you have rainy summers you have to choose the most adaptable variety. Fortunately our summers are dry.

I think if you have dry summers the best varieties are: Ronde de bordeaux, Florea, Improved celeste
If you have rainy conditions then the followings are the best : Malta Black, Saint Anthony, Gino's Black, Marseilles vs Black 

I hope i could help you. 

Subject: Figs up north (europe) Replies: 28
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I think the most challenging thing in your climate is to choose the right variety to grow, as far as I know your summers are short and a bit wet, and not as warm like our in Hungary. You wont have problem with overwintering the trees, because there are many easy ways, you will have the problem with the fruit ripenning. In my opinion with a good choose you can grow figs even in Oslo. 
I think the earliest figs can able to ripen figs even in Norway, these are the Saint Anthony, Florea (Michurinska 10), Malta Black, Hardy Chicago, MvsB, Gino's Black. These figs can ripen figs after 70 days from fruit forming, so possibly are the earliests. I know these are hard to find varieties but if you are interested in cuttings just contact me, and we will se if i have cuttings in this winter...

Subject: USDA Zone Replies: 15
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Lampo

Yeah I have had chance to taste Pingo De Mel, it was very delicious probably the best fig I have eaten in my whole life :). Unfortunately Soféno Preto didnt produce me, and it still has no figs on the plant. I cant say anything bout the hardiness, because I've planted them into containers.


Axel

Where did you order your Sumacki and Olympia figs? The Sumacki is the same fig from treesofjoy? I mean the green variety?

Subject: USDA Zone Replies: 15
Posted By: xenil Views: 274
 

Hello Axel!

Welcome among us, it's always nice to see folks from Europe. I'm also from Europe, I'm from Hungary. The first thing what I would advice you that don't care with the temperatures, usually if you dont live in a good microclimate or you have a heated house wall, your figs will freeze to the ground in every 3 years in my experiences. So if you wanna grow them you just have to protect them, or grow them in low cordon shape. You can see more information about this low cordon shape if you type "espalier" into the searcher. 
Or you can grow them in pots, and take them to your garage in every winter...

The next thing is to find the most earliest varieties for main crop, because the summers are usually short in Germany, like here in our country, probably our summers are a bit longer than yours, so it's very important. The best varieties are Michurinska 10 (Florea in america), Ronde de Bordeaux, Saint anthony, Dalmatie and there are many others. 
If you need more information bout figs just contact me, I will answer you as fast as I can.

Subject: Christmas Replies: 38
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I'd like to wish Merry Christmas, and Happy New Year to everybody.

Subject: What is your favorite tasting Fig this year? Replies: 41
Posted By: xenil Views: 722
 
This year my favorite was my Orsara from Italy which has a very special favor what I can't describe maybe a little honey with a cinamon after taster. The second was my Michurinska 10, we had a hot summer without rains so it was absolutely delicious :).

Subject: OT: Bad weather in Poland. :( Replies: 11
Posted By: xenil Views: 180
 
Hi Guys!

Here we also have bad weather, and they are predicting much more colder to the weekend. It might snow. So the weather is not the best its fogy, and raining constantly, but fortunately there are only a few more figs left to ripen. I hope we'll have better weather and they'll have good taste.
In my collection some figs are already dropping their leaves like Orsara, Saint Martin, Hardy Chicago, and the freckled beauty is already ready for winter so it's totally naked :)
They are in pots so I don't have to affraid from the winter, if its going to snow I will put them into the garage..
Only the Michurinska is wintering outside but I think I'll have no problem with it.

Subject: Mitchurinska10 identic with Florea? Replies: 11
Posted By: xenil Views: 913
 
Welcome to among us!

Finally a Hungarian :). U're absolutely right the last 3 winters were quite warm compared to the others, but dont forget about the hard siberian winter. When it was come everything was frozen to the ground...

Subject: when to take cutting in west Tn zone 6 Replies: 4
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I'm in zone 6b, sometimes we have hard winters and I usually have to send a lot of cuttings abroad. For me the best time i think is the middle of December, at that time the cuttings are already in dormant but we still dont have too hard temperatures what can kill them...

Subject: Mihurinska-10 growing well. Replies: 17
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Mine is a little bit different it has a mixed interrior, but it has more amber meat, with a little red colour.

Subject: Mihurinska-10 growing well. Replies: 17
Posted By: xenil Views: 1,048
 
And what about your Ali Pasha? Is it ripened any fig for you or not yet? By the way your fig looks very good, For me it had a great taste with a little strawberry taste, but i think they are better in August cause mines were ripenning in August..

Subject: Danny's Delight Replies: 4
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Congrat, Really nice to see your figs, I hope they had a good taste :)

Subject: Horizontal cordon fig trees Replies: 9
Posted By: xenil Views: 446
 
And dont forget about snow cover, under snow cover the temperatures are always more higher than above the snow line...

Subject: Off topics: Pistachio Replies: 14
Posted By: xenil Views: 369
 
Thanks for the information, I spoke with a Hungarian guy who is trying to grafting Pistachios into Sumac, and he told me that there are many wild trees in Middle asia which are growing in cold conditions and in winter times they're sometimes getting more than -23C. I read on the net that they are also native to the mountains of Caucasus where the temperatures are often under -20C. This guy saw a tree here in Hungary in one of our arboretum where its growing happily without any problem more than 10 years. It is grafted into a Sumac.. So I think there is some hope to try it here.

Subject: Horizontal cordon fig trees Replies: 9
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I already saw this video on tube and I'm thinking of trying this technique but unfortunately I dont have too much space. This method in my mind is can be an easy way to grow figs in colder climate with early ripenning varieties like Michurinska cause this method allowing us to protect simply the plants with mold..

 

Subject: Off topics: Pistachio Replies: 14
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I think growing them in pots is not a good idea cause they need big space due to they have big size, and they need pollinator so u have to keep minimum 2 tree for fruit.

Subject: Off topics: Pistachio Replies: 14
Posted By: xenil Views: 369
 
Hi Folk!

I was just browsing on the internet searching for new fruit to grow here in zone 6b. I love eating Pistachios, and I just wanted to know how cold hardy they are. So I decided to do a little research, but I didnt find any valuable information. So I would have some questions for u guys.
I would like to know if its possible to grow them in zone 6b? The hardest winter we had was in 2012 when we had -22C on the ground level, but on 2 meter high it was about -20C. So I would like to know what temperatures can a Pistachio survive without any problem? So are there any hardy cultivar what can survive -18, -20 celsius?
Tne other problem here is the short growing season from April 1st we have about 180 frost free days, Is it enough to get ripe fruits from it?
And before I'll forget is it possible to graft it into a Cotinus Coggygria? Is it the relative of the pistachio and its growing widely here. It might prove the cold hardiness.

Subject: When should figs BUDS start? Zone 6 Replies: 9
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Here are they usually starting to forming main crop figs at the middle of june, or early june ,
but it depends of the variety and the weather condition of the year.
The earliest former here is the michurinska 10.

Subject: How Hardy is Brunswick? Replies: 6
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I dont have personal experience with Brunswick, but in Europe in Bulgaria this is the only fig which is growing in the cold mountains of Bulgaria next to the Michurinska 10. So i think it has to be minimum as hardy as a normal fig, but in my opinion it might be hardier a little bit.

Subject: Mihurinska-10 growing well. Replies: 17
Posted By: xenil Views: 1,048
 
Hi Everyone!

I also own this variety in my yard in Hungary, its till a small plant, cause I've just got the cutting about a year ago. Its growing very well and the new shoots are almost 30cm on each branches, but there is a bigger which grew almost 50cm. On my plant the fruits are bigger, about the size of a pea, and some of them are getting close to a ripe cherry.
Now the sun is shining, and the conditions are not ideal to make a photo, but at early night I will post some.

Subject: Valle Negra source (in Europe?)? Replies: 12
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As I know just between USA, and Europe. Is illegal till the PPV disease.

Subject: Valle Negra source (in Europe?)? Replies: 12
Posted By: xenil Views: 702
 
Hello, and welcom among us!

I think what you are looking for is Valleycallda, aka nero600m. It was discovered by a very novel Italian man Sergio Carlini. A very good rain tolerant, and cold hardy fig. 
Valle Negra is an another fig, which was also found in Italy, but is more available in America than in Europe. Iif you are looking for Nero600m try to contact with Feigenbaum (Christian) he own this variety and he is also from Germany. A very helpful, and friendly guy.

Subject: Laradek and Hardy Figs Replies: 21
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You're right in this, but that's why a lot of gardener says Laradek English brown turkey. Maybe its just a brown turkey, but there can be some mutation, and there is some differences among the strains.

Subject: Laradek and Hardy Figs Replies: 21
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About this hardy fig all I can say, I think the given temperatures are too high, I think its impossible to a fig to survive colder temperature than -23C. I saw some photos about this fig plant, and it's location, and that fig is located next to a heated house, on a hillside. There is a valley at the bottom of the hill, where the cold air can stuck, and the warmer layer, is coming up to the higher attitudes. As we now this conclusion has came from the simple Physics. This perception can stand on it's own feet, here in Hungary the relief is very similar to czech's, and thanks to this perception we have a lot of places where we are able to grow figs on hillsides, for example we have a 7 acre big Fig Orchard in Zala county, but maybe we have more than 1000 acre place where we could grow this wonderfull fruit. So a lot of thing is depend from the relief.
But, by the way this variety is very valuable, cause the czech republic has less summer heat, and sunshine than in our country, and in addition of this factor it's able to ripen it's figs.

Subject: OFF topic: Yacon Replies: 5
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Thank u for the answers. I was talking with a hungarian grower, and he told me that he is harvesting about 8 to 10 kg tubers per a plant, in the same zone, so you guys are right. I hope they will give me a bountiful crop. :)

Subject: OFF topic: Yacon Replies: 5
Posted By: xenil Views: 452
 
Hi,

It's a root crop from the andes, one of most unknown tuberous crop.
It is the realitve of the well known Jerusalem artichokes, but it has more special care than an artichoke.
yacon-tubers_may-2010.jpg 

Subject: OFF topic: Yacon Replies: 5
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Hi folk!


Nowadays the yacon is very popular, I'm thinking off trying to grow them in my climate. I'm in Zone 6b, the summers are sometimes a little bit dry, but usually we have a lot of humidity. The first frosts are usually hitting here at the last week of October, but sometimes they hit in October and there are no other frosts till the end of November.
What do you guys think are there any posibility to grow them here with a little protection, or growing them in pots are a better way?

Subject: VDB rooted tissue culture..w pics Replies: 3
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Congrat Brian,
This plant looks nice, hope that he will make it and will produce a lot of fig for you.

Subject: Hello from Sardinia Replies: 50
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Welcom to the forum, Fico

Subject: Chiistmas Replies: 60
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I'd like to wish Merry Christmas, and Happy New Year to every forum member!

I hope the next year will be successfull for fig growing, and we will have nice summer :).

Subject: Uzbek Yellow fig (Xinjiang Zhao Hung) experiences? Replies: 13
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Hello Guys!

Gelu, Its a good new from you, because this variety looks very promising even if its not cold hardy, but the fruit quality looks excellent. Finally i got my friend two freckled beauty plants, and I will have cuttings from this variety for the exchange.

Justin, you are might right. I was read that in Uzbekistan the winter temperatures can reach -30C, or even lower. Here in hungary the main temperatures are variating between -15, and -20C. But the warmer winters we have only -10C. Now this year is very mild, the lowest temperature here was only -5c. Usually at this time of the year the country would be covered with snow, but now its raining. The weather feels like the end of autumn. 
Here the only problem is the low temperatures, but if I keep my plants small, I can easily protect them with soil, or straw. This protection technique performed the best over the 2 year experiences.

Subject: Uzbek Yellow fig (Xinjiang Zhao Hung) experiences? Replies: 13
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Hi,

Thank you guys for the replies, and the photos.
Harvey is this variety ever produced to you? I heard the Tashkent variety has some problems with the leaf dropping, and I never seen any piture from the US members.

Subject: Tashkent Fig Replies: 43
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Hi,

Does anybody ever had any ripe fruit from this variety?

Subject: Uzbek Yellow fig (Xinjiang Zhao Hung) experiences? Replies: 13
Posted By: xenil Views: 1,837
 
Hello Members!

I was see a topic about this variety, but nobody said if he has this variety or not. A very good friend told me, that this variety has to be very cold hardy, and has a very good fruit quality. He tried to get this variety from a Chinese guy, but unfortunately there were some problems with the posting, and finaly he didnt get it.

I opened this topic, cause I would like to know who has this variety on the forum, and what kind of experiences has with this outlying variety? And is he having some photos about the variety?

Subject: Jon's unknown pastiliere pics? Replies: 11
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Hello Guys,

Thank you for the feedbacks. Very mixed opinions. I decided to grow this variety, because a lot of people told me its deserve a try. Fruit dropping was always a big problem with this cultivar, but the reason why my friend sent me this cutting cause he said "It might doesnt drop the fruit like the common type cultivar". Anyway, a lot of member said it has a very good fruit.
I think the best solution is to give him a try, and we will how does he perform over the years. If he wont produce any fruit, I'll remove from my orchard.

Subject: Jon's unknown pastiliere pics? Replies: 11
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donpaid,

Thank you for the reply, and the link. Unfortunately if its not a common type, is not the best news, due to the fig wasp doesnt native here. There are some places of the country where can be found, but its doesnt native...
I hope it is just a normal common type fig.

Subject: Jon's unknown pastiliere pics? Replies: 11
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Hello Guys!

Finally I decided to get a pastiliére. I was speak with a Hungarian friend, who was very kind and sent me a cutting from pastiliére, but is not the simple variety. This is the Jon's type, and he said it isnt dropping the fruit, but he wasn't sure in it. 

I was make this topic, cause I need your help. I'd like to know is this cultivar dropping the fruit or not?
And I'd like to see some pictures about the fruit, and the tree, so if anybody has a picture please take it up!

Subject: Mitchurinska10 identic with Florea? Replies: 11
Posted By: xenil Views: 913
 
Hello Magnificco!

Yes, we are growing, and testing cold hardy figs here in middle europe with Gelu. 

The main harvest season depends of your variety, there are some earlier ripenning varieties like Ronde de bordeaux, or Mitchurinska whiches are sarting to ripen in the first decade of August, but the major harvest starts at the end of august, and early september, if a variety ripens later than this season usually dont producing valuable fruit due to the few sunshine.

I have 3 unknown variety, they are doing fine, but they are too late ripenning. Next year, I will plant out some hardier cultivars and we will see the results.

If you have any other question, just pm me!

Subject: Looking for LaRadek Replies: 16
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Thanks for the infos,
And do you have photos about Bécane, and Natalina? Would be good to see how do they look like, cause I never see any photos about these 2 variety..

Subject: Looking for LaRadek Replies: 16
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Yes as Gelu say, here in europe we have a lot of traditional varieties, whiches are usually inheritaging by Generation to Genaration, and that is the reason why the fig has reached USA to. The passion for figs inclined the immigrants to brought some fig with themselves.

Moonvil! Is your natalina is the same as Grimo's? and another question about Bécan, is it ripenning in the same time as Ronde de bordeaux, cause I heard this thing.

Subject: Looking for LaRadek Replies: 16
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Moonvil!
I'm also interested in the same question like Gelu, what varieties do you grow here in the cold Europe?

Subject: Looking for LaRadek Replies: 16
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I wish, I could help you, but unfortunately I live in Europe.

Subject: Mountain Figs - cold hardy early ripening Replies: 85
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Greg,
You are right, its a bad translation, unfortunately I dont speak bulgarian. I have an opinion what does this mean, I think its mean this variety is coming from Turkey, because Turko means Turkish, and ezoichnoto means language. I was speak with Georgi, the original owner and he told me the city was under Turkish occupation during the 16th, and 17th century or more, as Hungary too..
But if you would like to make sure, speak with penandpike, or pako, cause they are from Bulgaria, but I think the word means what I was write down  to you.

Subject: Mountain Figs - cold hardy early ripening Replies: 85
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Tony,

Your question is justifiable. About Ali Pasha. This variety is coming from Bulgaria, from the city of Kuklen. The original owner of this cultivar is Georgi Goshev, I was speak with this nursery owner. He told me a lot of good things about this variety, for example this fig has higher sugar level, much higher than Mitchurinska10, resist to rain, and ripens very early around the end of July in Bulgaria. He mentioned I have to try this variety in my climate, due to these properties.
About the others, I can only invoking to others experiences.

I link a forum where you can see photos about the fruits of this fig.

http://exoticplants.ovo.bg/forum/6-42-3

Subject: Mitchurinska10 identic with Florea? Replies: 11
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Hi Gelu!

I hope you will be able to taste the Mitchurinska, because its very delicious. As you mentioned, yes Ali Pasha is very hardy, and have much better fruit quality, with higher sugar level, and its resist to rain, so its looks promising.
I was speak with Georgi about this variety, and he said he can help me, but if not i will tell you.

Subject: Mitchurinska10 identic with Florea? Replies: 11
Posted By: xenil Views: 913
 
Thanks for the posts!

One thing what I forgot to write, the Mitchurinska10 was only described about 30-40 years ago by a Bulgarian scientist Serafimova. He named this fig after the town where he found the variety. And another thing about this variety is the folowing: Usually the people only know this fig under the name as "common fig", just the nurseries and some others selling them as Mitchurinska. 
So I think, they have to be same.

Subject: Mitchurinska10 identic with Florea? Replies: 11
Posted By: xenil Views: 913
 
Hello Guys!

So a years ago, I got a variety from Bulgaria called Mitchurinska 10, which is growing widely around everywhere in the mountains. Although its a bulgarian fig, but its also native on the Balcan region as far as Serbia. This year fruited me very early in the first decade of August. The reason, why I'm writting, cause i think its the same as Florea. They have the same properties. This variety has a strong honey flavor, with a little juice. The fruit is small, but tasty. Also ripens very early, and has excellent cold hardiness. Can be easily sour when the weather is rainy, like Florea. This variety doesnt tolerate the dark hours, when the sun isnt shining. 

I take up some photos about this variety. My question would be the following, what do you think are they the same fig, or not?

http://kepfeltoltes.hu/view/140814/K_p_187_www.kepfeltoltes.hu_.jpg
http://kepfeltoltes.hu/view/140814/475445818K_p_185_www.kepfeltoltes.hu_.jpg
http://kepfeltoltes.hu/view/140814/K_p_197_www.kepfeltoltes.hu_.jpg

Subject: Mountain Figs - cold hardy early ripening Replies: 85
Posted By: xenil Views: 8,701
 

Kelby, you are right. Florea in my knowledge is the same as Mitchurinska10. Mitchurinska is native on the Balcan region as far as Serbia, which is the origin of Florea. The mothercountry for this variety is Bulgaria where its running under the name as 'common fig'. Mitchurinska10 is also a honey type fig, ripens about the same time as Florea. This variety is also has the same properties like Florea. For example it doesnt resist to rain, doesnt tolerate the dark hours when the sun isnt shining, and can easily sour if the weather is too rainy. The leafshape is the same as Florea.
If are they the same and we can belive to the Bulgarian agricultural university this variety is able to survive -20C with little to no damage, but it depends of the thickness of the branches. 
Anyway, this variety is very valuable due to the early ripenning time..

I put up some photos about my mitchurinska10, what do you think are they the same fig?
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