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Subject: The other side, down under. White Nicolina, Blue Province (?), St. Dominique Violette, Excel. Replies: 18
Posted By: papertiger Views: 2,715
 
Thank you Grasa, that's good advice. I hadn't seen those pruning instructions before. I'd intended to prune to the vase style, and that seems quite similar.

jdsfrance, things will start winding down in April, and begin again in September. Yours is sound advice, but I anticipate this years figs will ripen without intervention.

One of the figs on my Blue Provence has ripened. Puzzlingly, it isn't violet in colour.

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I don't know what to make of it. It can't be a Blue Provence. The fruit was all sweetness and little depth, not at all mealy in texture, with a very thin skin. Lovely, really.

It's left me a little confused. Any ideas? I'll follow it up with the nursery.

Subject: personal favourite - ivans amber Replies: 6
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Luscious! 

You are truly fortunate. This and the Kytherian fig.



Subject: Some Figs ive tasted so far this summer,in Austraila Replies: 16
Posted By: papertiger Views: 904
 
What a haul! When did these varieties start fruiting? I'm afraid I don't know which name belongs to each picture. Is it (left to right) Black Genoa profile, Deanna profile (what a beautiful yellow!), Deanna cross section, Lemon Lennie cross section, Lemon Lennie profile, Preston Prolific cross section, Celeste profile, Celeste cross section, R14 cross section, Excel profile, Excel cross section, Green Ischia profile, Black Mission profile, Black mission cross section?

Lucky you!

Subject: The other side, down under. White Nicolina, Blue Province (?), St. Dominique Violette, Excel. Replies: 18
Posted By: papertiger Views: 2,715
 

A new season’s spoils.

A rupturing White Nicolina.

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The fruit is pictured beside my first excel (a staggeringly delicious runt). The taste of the excel reminded me of a mix of bone dried figs, strawberry and a mellow (Manuka-like) honey. Ripened mid-January.

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The fecund Blue Provence. It grows so eagerly here. I’m really looking forward to seeing the fruit develop; Not least to taste it, but also to verify that it is a Blue Province after all.

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No breba this year. A couple of surprise defoliations, and, disappointingly, no fruit from either St. Dominique Violette. 


Subject: The other side, down under. White Nicolina, Blue Province (?), St. Dominique Violette, Excel. Replies: 18
Posted By: papertiger Views: 2,715
 

I'd promised some pictures of what I had initially thought was the White Nicolina. I'm near certain it's the Blue Provence despite having no fruit to confirm it. Splayed out, the leaves measure 24 by 21cm. Growth of a metre to boot.   



Looking inside a main crop White Nicolina. Artificial light.



Things are winding down now as the seasons change. There's one fig left.

I wasn't surprised to see the St. Dominique Violette in the 4-2-1 mix wilt less quickly than the other in the 1-1-1 mix. We've had some record high temperatures this year - record high averages too. Both handled it well. I've needed to water them every second or third day. Four days in a pinch.

The one (now two) year old St. Dominique Violette still suffers from rust and is visibly weaker. Besides treating it with copper and sulphur fungicides, it hasn't recieved any special care. All its fruit was small and spoiled as it ripened. It's disconcerting.

I look forward to the next season.


Subject: The other side, down under. White Nicolina, Blue Province (?), St. Dominique Violette, Excel. Replies: 18
Posted By: papertiger Views: 2,715
 

I fear I may've confused one fig for another. May've been the nursery. Bare rooted stock, you might recall.

I think I've confused a 'Blue Provence' with a 'White Nicolina' and vice versa.

See the breba fig I'd previously attributed to my Blue Provence.


Not really a 'squat pyriform shaped fruit with a violet skin showing prominent ribs'. Mabye the main crop will blush and pucker more convincingly. Certainly has an open eye, though. Little bit of juice, too.

Looking inside.


No 'blue tinged/purplish meat with red seeds' either. That said, it was soft and very sweet. Almost cloyingly so.

I'll take a couple of pictures of what I had initially thought was the White Nicolina. It's leaves are certainly large and ornamental - a closer fit with the description of the Blue Province.

Switched at birth mabye?


Subject: The other side, down under. White Nicolina, Blue Province (?), St. Dominique Violette, Excel. Replies: 18
Posted By: papertiger Views: 2,715
 
It's a bit of a treat, isn't it.

Ottowan, I'm not too far from the coast, so it's quite mild. No frosts, certainly, and not offensively humid or hot either. It's a different world where you are. You've certainly committed to fuss over yours where it's so cold. I can't say I blame you. Figs are compelling.

Rcantor, I fear the charm would wear off after a while. Can you imagine forgoing the colours of autumn? The clarity of winter? I can warm to your idea though, losing track of time.

Subject: The other side, down under. White Nicolina, Blue Province (?), St. Dominique Violette, Excel. Replies: 18
Posted By: papertiger Views: 2,715
 
It's summer in Australia, and my figs are just starting to hit their stride. I've a White Nicolina, a Blue Province, two St. Dominique Violettes and an Excel - all one year old or less.

The Blue Province with the baby Excel below right. One breba.
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The one year old St. Dominique Violette (below). This one suffers with rust and what I suspect is FMV. You might be able to spot that it's been doused in copper fungicide. The other St. Dominique Violette is just sprouting and appears not to suffer quite so badly. I've put one into a 4-2-1 mix of Diatomite, Pine Bark, and Perlite and the other into a 1-1-1 mix of the same. It won't help me diagnose anything, or observe any preference - the comparison will only help me see how quickly the media dries in this climate. It's just starting to hit 30 degress Celsius (86F) with some regularity.
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To my delight, the White Nicolina (below) has just woken up from a bare root transplant gone awry.
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It's all very satisfying. I'll be sure to keep you updated.

Subject: Sweet Alma Pie Replies: 20
Posted By: papertiger Views: 1,316
 

Brilliant looking pie!

 

I'd try the thinnest of smears on a pastry base. Add a teensy layer of crème patissière on top of that and you'll have me knocking at your door. Maybe try a thin browned butter crust instead of the pastry cream (try adapting the topping from the apple and raisin brown butter tart found halfway down this page). It's more of a tart though. I wouldn't know where to start with pies (i.e. deep dish American).


Subject: Potting mix experiment- Semi-Gritty and Pro-mix combo Replies: 152
Posted By: papertiger Views: 16,017
 

Dieseler, I hope your figs can hold a tune!

 

rafed. I live in Australia, so there's no possibility of sharing it. If it fruits, or even if it doesn't, I'll be sure to express what I make of it.


Subject: Potting mix experiment- Semi-Gritty and Pro-mix combo Replies: 152
Posted By: papertiger Views: 16,017
 

Quote:
Originally Posted by TucsonKen
Debate can be a very good thing—it’s especially valuable to “spectators” attempting to evaluate ideas—but when it moves from discussing the merits of an idea to questioning the merits of a person, there’s rarely a positive outcome. We’ve all seen rifts form between knowledgeable forum members, and all too often it ends with someone leaving, which is a shame. A little more care about separating the person from the perspective would make for a better forum. 

 

I couldn't agree more. A little bit of dissonance is a good thing, provided we don't play the man. Too much harmony and we'd all start mulching with fairy floss.

 

I have one fig, 4 months old. A St. Dominique Violette. I've a Blue Province and a White Nicolina on the way.  I'm in awe of the breadth of knowledge I find here and am grateful for those that sustain it. We can only benefit from a willingness to share.

 

Thanks!

 

By the way, did anyone read about the study that found the roots of young plants produced and reacted to sound? It wasn't Beethoven, though, lest anyone get any ideas.


Subject: Potting mix experiment- Semi-Gritty and Pro-mix combo Replies: 152
Posted By: papertiger Views: 16,017
 

How about a recipe for whoopee cakes?

 

Tapla, thankyou for the Whitcomb lead. I'm almighty ignorant when it comes to plants, so I had a ferret around for some of his literature. I didn't have much luck, but I did find a paper that helped me appreciate your sense of things.

 

Wright, A.N. (1998) Influence of Lime and Micronutrient Amendments on Growth of Containerized Landscape Trees Grown in Pine Bark (unpublished master's thesis). Faculty of Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University, Blacksburg, Virginia. Retrieved from http://scholar.lib.vt.edu/theses/public/etd-7598-11410/materials/anwthesis.pdf

 

I can't vouch for its veracity, but the short literature review does give me some perspective. The studies she references do seem to corroborate at least something of your understanding of pH. It's a fascinating business, this science.

 

But have a look at this.

 

'Results of this thesis indicate that lime additions to pine bark are not necessary to improve growth of containerized landscape trees and in many cases produced detrimental results. Lime additions were also not necessary to supply Ca and Mg, since the irrigation water supplied sufficient concentrations of these nutrients. Instead, micronutrient amendments are necessary and greatly improved seedling growth and quality, regardless of substrate pH' (Wright, 1998, p. 42)

 

Isn't that interesting! I mean that in an excitable neophyte kind of way. It goes without saying that these results are dependent on some well defined variables. 

 

Thanks again.


Subject: Potting mix experiment- Semi-Gritty and Pro-mix combo Replies: 152
Posted By: papertiger Views: 16,017
 

I registered to acclaim DWD2's efforts to introduce something substantive. I don't think s/he is being vindictive.

 

Tapla, you're clearly well meaning, but you've not given proper attribution to the graphs you've just posted. I'd be grateful if you could help me find out. I can't make sense of them otherwise. At the very least, what does the green bar represent? Lovely plants, by the way.