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Subject: Still available cuttings for exchange Replies: 16
Posted By: figfan_hungary Views: 1,425
 
Dear Peter, yes, they are growing well, and how about my cuttings sent last autumn?

Quote:
Originally Posted by planteur123
Have you been successful rooting my cuttings (the 7 varieties from Paris, France) or do you want new ones ?

Subject: Still available cuttings for exchange Replies: 16
Posted By: figfan_hungary Views: 1,425
 
I agree, they were quite the same for me. As I see these are the most popular, sought-after varieties and unfortunately thes were the first finished cuttings for me.

Quote:
Originally Posted by cis4elk
Thank you for sharing your great pictures.
I've read that the only difference between the Coll de Damas is the color of the skin, do you agree that they taste the same?

Subject: Still available cuttings for exchange Replies: 16
Posted By: figfan_hungary Views: 1,425
 
Thank you Scott for the information! Well, pawpaws are special but I think a delicious fruit. When I first tried it I found it very interesting, different from other temperate climate fruits. Maybe I can compare it to the tropical-American Annona relatives such as soursop, cherimoya which I tasted in Bali island. I don't understand why it's not popular even in the USA where it grows wild. Well, I know that it has an extremely short storage life as a fruit but so have raspberries or blackberries but they are still cultivated, so not an excuse.

Subject: Still available cuttings for exchange Replies: 16
Posted By: figfan_hungary Views: 1,425
 
Besides these, I'm still looking for exchange of fig cuttings, as we have stored cuttings. My wish list is that one above in my first post, but by now I managed to get some varieties again. From the list above I'd really like to get some Black Madeira, Genovese Nero, Marabout, Zingarella, MBVS, Nero600M, Black Bethlehem..... and the others too.

Subject: Still available cuttings for exchange Replies: 16
Posted By: figfan_hungary Views: 1,425
 
We have some pawpaw (Asimina triloba) trees. We also planted 60 trees last year. Our oldest trees are full of flowers now. This species is still very new here as it comes from the USA, where it is a native. The new trees are grafted, known cultivars. Unfortunately only the flies pollinate the flowers here, honeybees are not interested in it at all. I think an American insect is not present in Europe similar to yucca-flies. To ensure the crop we use artificial pollination.

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Subject: Still available cuttings for exchange Replies: 16
Posted By: figfan_hungary Views: 1,425
 
Asian persimmon (Diospyros kaki) trees and plantation:

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Subject: Still available cuttings for exchange Replies: 16
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The young fig plantation today:

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Subject: Still available cuttings for exchange Replies: 16
Posted By: figfan_hungary Views: 1,425
 
Some pictures about our mother-orchard as it appears today. This year spring comes late due to the extreme, unusual cold March in Europe, but by now phenology is accelerated very much. We expect a quite fair breba crop.

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Subject: Still available cuttings for exchange Replies: 16
Posted By: figfan_hungary Views: 1,425
 
And one important thing from the previous experiences: when you send cuttings to a long journey, please don't apply ANY moisture. Just dry cuttings wrapped in plastic very carefully, completely isolated from air, better vacuum sealed. Before packing them apply copper fungicide, bodeaux mix or anything similar and let it dry on them. That's how Montserrat Pons and others pack them to prevent mold.

Subject: Still available cuttings for exchange Replies: 16
Posted By: figfan_hungary Views: 1,425
 
Hello All,

I still have stored cuttings from our 13 traditional varieties. You can watch them in a new photo album, currently I uploaded 5 pages:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/92961367@N03/
There are some cuttings left from the new varieties published here (http://figs4funforum.websitetoolbox.com/post/exchange-cuttings-europe-%28Ihave-50-varieties%29-6083536), but very few. Just ask. This winter I made several exchanges with so many forum members. However winter rooting was very unsuccesful in many cases, so I'd like to obtain some varieties again. Here is a list, but I'm interested in any known, high quality figs. Some of them are completely lost for me, or I have only 1-2 dubious cutting alive, others I never had before:
Zidi
Calimyrna
Marabout
Black Madeira
Genovese Nero
Zingarella
Black Ischia
Green Ischia
Black Mission
Salem Dark
Black Bethlehem
Hardy Chicago
Sal's EL
Sal's Corleone
Brooklin Dark and White
MBVS
VdB
Flanders
Excel
Hunt
Desert King
Galicia Negra
Danny's Delight
San Piero
San Pietro
Smith
Conadria
Calvert
Chico Strawberry
Mavra Sika
Dwarf 38
Lyndshurt White
Sumacki
Sierra
Maltese Falcon
Battaglia Green
Nero 600M
Valle Calda
Stella

Subject: Hardy pomegranates Replies: 72
Posted By: figfan_hungary Views: 8,742
 
Hello all,

I'm also from Hungary and know Xenil from a Hungarian gardener's forum. However, from a different region and topographic conditions, a zone 8 climate, we have fig trees, olives, loquats, laurel trees, etc, Xenil knows it from that forum. So I'm also interested in collecting pomegranate cultivars, not only the hardiest ones, I'd like to concentrate to fruit quality (size, flavor, quality of seeds, etc.) so cold hardiness is a great plus, but not a must. I'm open to exchanges, I'd like to obtain many of these Central Asian, Russian varieties especially Parfianka, Savatsky, and all others. I have enough place for them so I could collect, let's say 20-30 varieties.

I OFFER:
-Several figs as you can see here:
http://figs4funforum.websitetoolbox.com/post/exchange-cuttings-europe-%28Ihave-50-varieties%29-6083536
-16 persimmon varieties:
http://figs4funforum.websitetoolbox.com/post/OT-persimmon-exchange-6190225

Bass, Alanmercieca, WillsC and others, please contact me if interested.

Thank you,
Akos

Subject: OT: persimmon exchange Replies: 2
Posted By: figfan_hungary Views: 830
 
I can offer figs as exchange as well, just look at the following thread, you can see many pictures from my varieties:
http://figs4funforum.websitetoolbox.com/post/exchange-cuttings-europe-%28Ihave-50-varieties%29-6083536

Subject: per accuweather the night temp will be in 30's by end of feb. Replies: 4
Posted By: figfan_hungary Views: 457
 
Please remember that weather forecasts are only reliable to a 5-6 days time. Forecasts for 2 weeks have sometimes not higher than 50 % accuracy. 30 day forecasts are only at experimental stage. So don't worry too early. This winter is cold in Europe too, but recently we have cold winters in Europe every year.

Subject: OT: persimmon exchange Replies: 2
Posted By: figfan_hungary Views: 830
 
Hi All,

I was not too active these weeks due to an illness, but besides figs I'm interested in exchange of persimmon cuttings for scionwood. I'm sorry for off-topic, but I realized that many members are aficionados of other fruit trees too.

I have the following varieties:

rojo brillante
tipo
hana fuyu
giant fuyu
o gosho
sharon (triumph)
mela
hiratanenashi
mandarino
costata
hachiya
koshu hyakume
agakaki
mercatelli
2 unknown from (the ex-soviet country) Georgia, one of them is PCNA (never-astringent) and has male flowers

I'd like to have the following varieties or any other with interesting qualities:

cal fuyu or fuyu (I found unsure informations whether they are the same or different or they are the same as hana fuyu which I have it already)
gosho
fujiwara gosho
fukuro gosho
hana gosho
haze gosho
ichigikei jiro (known as ichikikei, ichikei and other transsriptions and misspellings)
izu
jiro
jiro C.24276
koda gosho
kuro gaki (this one for one of my friends especially)
maekawa jiro
mukaku jiro
mikatani gosho
oku gosho
suruga
wase fuyu
Tamopan
tenjin gosho
yamato gosho
-any other with their name containing the words "fuyu", "gosho", or "jiro" because all these are PCNA cultivars and I want to collect a complete assortment from these.
-any other persimmon astringent or not, Asian or American but with good properties or you suggest it.

Subject: New to forum from Romania Replies: 26
Posted By: figfan_hungary Views: 1,248
 
I hope my PM arrived, I think you should concentrate on not vigorous grower figs with highly fertile buds. I think my giant yellow and long dark would be possible solutions.

Subject: New to forum from Romania Replies: 26
Posted By: figfan_hungary Views: 1,248
 
Hi All and Laurentiu,

I already replied to the PM, I think we can make out some solutions. I'm glad some forum members mentioned my fig trees. I was not very active in these weeks due to an illness. I stayed in contact with some members and made some exchanges. However some of them were difficult, long time shipping killed the cuttings in some cases and there were some packs confiscated by customs (probably). I think my varieties are already in the US so they will be spreaded with some time. I think I can ship to transcontinental relations only in exceptional cases. I already have some partners from several countries. But inside Europe and especially between neighbour countries shipping is absolutely unproblematic. I only have to find some solution to the demands who ask cuttings for money. I've never thought about price yet. Also a new variety or species of plant is much more precious for me.

However I have to correct some informations: our fig orchard is not in the northern part of the country but the southwestern part, exactly at the Slovenian and Croatian border.
The other thing: I have to ruin some unrealistic illusions: I only know that most of my varieties are hardy to -14 C as that was the lowest measured temperature in the orchard in the last 20 years. In fact we have a zone 8. People make a great mistake when think that winter minimum temperatures were the same in whole regions or even in a whole country: our orchard on a hill 80 meters above the valley is in zone 8a, meanwhile the bottom of the valley where a small river flows is on the border of 7a/6b... We measured -8,1 C on the night of 19 december 2009, but a meteorological station only 5 kms away measured -21 C on the same clear, windless night with snow cover. I know well Brasov and the surrounding region because my grandfather was born in Tarnaveni and I still have many cousins from Sighisoara to Cluj and we visit them about once a year. Unfortunately Brasov is found between the mountains. The absolute elevation is very high and is surrounded by mountains so radiational inversion is very significant. But figs can be successfully grown in pots and I think there isn't any problem with the heat of the growing season either in Brasov.

Subject: exchange cuttings europe (Ihave 50 varieties) Replies: 45
Posted By: figfan_hungary Views: 2,901
 
Chivas, I hope so! And the other interesting result will be that maybe you can identify some of our local varieties. Since their origin is generally unknown.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chivas
Assuming the cuttings go through the post I think it will be exciting next year to see these Hungarian trees popping up all over and seeing how they preform outside of Hungary, I bet there will be a bunch of happy people.

Subject: exchange cuttings europe (Ihave 50 varieties) Replies: 45
Posted By: figfan_hungary Views: 2,901
 
Important update info!
After several requests I can sadly assume that unfortunately some of my new varieties are finished. I had indicated earlier that these 30 are 1-2 y. o. trees. I cannot cut all branches as I hope for some brebas in the next season. I need to update the list but col de dames are definitely totally finished as the most popular choice. And sucrette as well and maybe piazzetta but I'm not sure. Approximately 20 of these varieties are still available. And of course cuttings from the big trees in the mother-orchard. 

Subject: exchange cuttings europe (Ihave 50 varieties) Replies: 45
Posted By: figfan_hungary Views: 2,901
 
Asian persimmon tree (Diospyros kaki). In case of any question i can explain how to prune it properly. But you can see well on the picture as I use this 20 year-old tree already without the leaves as a demonstration piece. Anyway we have 14 different asian persimmon varieties. We can collect cuttings for scionwood in February. 

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Subject: exchange cuttings europe (Ihave 50 varieties) Replies: 45
Posted By: figfan_hungary Views: 2,901
 
On the black plate there are still some figs of quite acceptable quality. Meanwhile leaves are almost all fallen. Not because of frost but natural autumn yellowing. You can see the completely green leaves of the kiwifruit vine on previous pictures behind Janos. Those leaves are otherwise very sensitive to frost but usually reluctant to proceed into the fall season phenology (are not yellowing). In spite of this fact kiwifruit vines are much hardier than fig trees. In our region there are no frost damages neither in the least favorable locations (bottom of enclosured valleys, lowest levels of lowland areas).

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Subject: exchange cuttings europe (Ihave 50 varieties) Replies: 45
Posted By: figfan_hungary Views: 2,901
 
Thank you for your feedback!

Quote:
Originally Posted by xenil
Hello Guys!

Today i recived my cuttings from Akos (Figfan_Hungary). The cuttings are very good. I also live in Hungary. The posting held 2 days. So those who are waiting for the cuttings, i just can say be with suffering. They will recive their cuttings. I think if there is no problem it takes about 1-2 weeks, so it's not a long time, but i know what is the feeling, when you have to wait.

Subject: exchange cuttings europe (Ihave 50 varieties) Replies: 45
Posted By: figfan_hungary Views: 2,901
 
IMPORTANT!
I marked our local varieties with coloured stickers. So you can break the codes with the help of the following list, please save it:

yellow: yellow round giant
brownish-orange: Kutfej black
red: dark elongated (szivarfuge)
white: black plate
black & white: brown plate hardy
black: most common local cultivar, brown pyriform, palmate leaves
yellow & black: Hungarian brown
purple: early purple
black & brownish orange: Italian brown 
green: drying-on-tree green
grey: fico zucca
striped: Vorcsok Dalmatian yellow (yellow round small)

All other varieties are marked with their proper names.
We hope that everything will be OK in transcontinental relations.

Subject: exchange cuttings europe (Ihave 50 varieties) Replies: 45
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Last Sunday we collected the cuttings with my friend Janos (Ninovarga on Gardenweb forum). I sent them to many addresses yesterday (Wednesday). We can send more to the remaining partners who haven't sent their addresses yet. Please check in.

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Subject: exchange cuttings europe (Ihave 50 varieties) Replies: 45
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Hi All,

We cut our trees this weekend. I'm glad to say that we managed to contact a lot of enthusiastic fig collectors. First I was really concerned and preoccupied about shipping problems to USA, Canada or other overseas countries, but you reassured me that it won't be so problematic. Anyone who is willing to exchange cuttings with me, please contact and write adress, wish list, the list you offer. Especially those who contacted me already. It's not so urgent but we probably won't have time in the following 2 weeks to cut figs again and I try to avoid the Xmas chaos. I tried to reply to everybody but there is a chance I mistakenly omitted someone. Sorry if happened.

Subject: exchange cuttings europe (Ihave 50 varieties) Replies: 45
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Kutfej black, early purple and a harvest & making some preserve

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Subject: exchange cuttings europe (Ihave 50 varieties) Replies: 45
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yellow giant

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Subject: exchange cuttings europe (Ihave 50 varieties) Replies: 45
Posted By: figfan_hungary Views: 2,901
 
Jimmy: sure, i know it. That's why i'm waiting for a bit and try to organize, rationalize the demands. I'd really like to share our varieties with US friends and others from transcontinental distances but it would be quite hard to send 2-3 cuttings to 28 partners and spend hundreds of dollars for shipping. We have enough time to spring.

Subject: exchange cuttings europe (Ihave 50 varieties) Replies: 45
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1: our hardiest  cultivar, brown plate
2: the same, breba crop is not plate
3: black plate
4, 5: cross section

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Subject: exchange cuttings europe (Ihave 50 varieties) Replies: 45
Posted By: figfan_hungary Views: 2,901
 
First: I got so many PM-s I try to cope with them. Maybe you should all form a cooperation in the USA to gather your offered cuttings in one big pack and write a common wish-list so that I would send one big package and you can distribute them thru domestic shipping. Maybe one of our relatives come to the States for Xmas.
Ottawan: Yes indeed, the mother-orchard is Nino's, the new cultivars are mine, but we operate the same company.
Wildforager: thanks for the suggestion, I'll try it. I don't speak or write French but I can read and understand it more or less from my Italian and Spanish so maybe I can cope with that page.

Subject: exchange cuttings europe (Ihave 50 varieties) Replies: 45
Posted By: figfan_hungary Views: 2,901
 
Dear Suzi,
Our fig trees are in a USDA zone 8 climate, so winter minima are around -10 C/ 14 F degrees. Our well known cultivars are all hardy in this climate, the biggest trees never suffered frost damage in the last 20-25 years. I know that there are fig cultivars that freeze back to the ground in a -8 C/ 19 F winter so a can assume that our cultivars are hardier that average. Most of our country is in zone 7 or even 6 but snow cover and all-day freezes for several days or even for weeks are common phenomena here too. As far as I know Violette de Bordeaux is same?/similar to? Negronne, but not sure.

Subject: exchange cuttings europe (Ihave 50 varieties) Replies: 45
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sorry:

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Subject: exchange cuttings europe (Ihave 50 varieties) Replies: 45
Posted By: figfan_hungary Views: 2,901
 
Another from the small yellow (Vorcsok)

Subject: exchange cuttings europe (Ihave 50 varieties) Replies: 45
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Col de dame noire/cuello de dama negra

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Subject: exchange cuttings europe (Ihave 50 varieties) Replies: 45
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Cross section:
-"szivarfuge" is the elongated
-"kutfeji lila" is the Kutfej purple(black)
-"korai lila" is the early purple
-"vorcsoki dalmat" is the yellow round small Dalmatian, but found in a local vineyard called Vorcsok

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Subject: exchange cuttings europe (Ihave 50 varieties) Replies: 45
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First: drying-on-tree
2nd: early purple
3rd: elongated
4th: the most common cultivar in our region

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Subject: exchange cuttings europe (Ihave 50 varieties) Replies: 45
Posted By: figfan_hungary Views: 2,901
 
Our biggest trees:

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Subject: exchange cuttings europe (Ihave 50 varieties) Replies: 45
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A mixed plate:

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Subject: exchange cuttings europe (Ihave 50 varieties) Replies: 45
Posted By: figfan_hungary Views: 2,901
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by shah8
You know the weirdest thing?  Doesn't specifically want any of our good ones.  No Excel, Sequoia, none of the stuff from the US South (Celestes, Hunt, Hollier), none of the better new strains from UCD, or any of the local mutants like Kathleen Black.  Virtually everything except perhaps Conadria can be got in Europe!  Someone's got reading to do!


I mentioned that: "Any best US cultivar, you've talked about so many in this forum" so I'd kindly accept any suggestion. I've read that there are more Celestes and heard about Hunt and Excel. Anyway, thanks for your recommendation!

Subject: exchange cuttings europe (Ihave 50 varieties) Replies: 45
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bullet08
Isn't it much easier to get the figs in Europe? I mean, thanks for you generosity, but France, Italy, Spain, and middle east all connected by land and with EU working European countries. I'm not understanding why looking for figs from US. I could think it would be other way around us looking for European and middle eastern figs.


-That's why I indicated in the title: "exchange cuttings Europe" I know that this is a US-based forum, but I also realized the biggest international forum for fig fanatics. A lot of people from Europe follow it. We speak several languages and we probably don't have a similar international forum for fig exchange.

Subject: exchange cuttings europe (Ihave 50 varieties) Replies: 45
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Hi All,

I'm a fig collector from the southwest border of Hungary and I'd like to exchange fig cuttings. I wouldn't like to involve money in, so I prefer the mutual way of exchange. I can offer about 50 cultivars but some of them are small trees, so cuttings are very limited from about 30 of them.

The cultivars I can offer and are from our big trees, so are not very limited (I post pictures from them later):

-dark plate, big, not a late variety but the season is very long, sometimes until november
-brown plate (hardy, first crop is not plate)
-most common cultivar of our region, large brown pyriform fruit, defined palmate leaves
-yellow round giant, fruits sometimes about 200 grams
-yellow round small, probably of dalmatian (Croatia) origin, few or no breba crop, but main crop is among the best
-dark skinned, probably of Dalmatian origin, late ripening, second crop in end of October here
-black round from the Hungarian village of Kutfej, strawberry pulp
-drying on tree, green
-dark elongated, breba crop is more round and lighter in color
-another traditional Hungarian variety, main crop quite late, brown, very abundant, breba crop also
-Italian brown, bit similar to the Hungarian brown above.
-yellow hard-skinned from the Hungarian city of Zalaegerszeg, hardy, strawberry pulp

Further to these cultivars I have the following ones, but they are 1 or 2 years-old trees, so cuttings are limited to 1-3 piece per tree (it means practically that I cannot send cuttings from these to more than 1-3 exchange partners and cuttings will be small):

-panachee
-parisienne
-ronde de Bordeaux
-portogallo
-sucrette
-salato
-col de dame (cuello de dama) black and white also
-napolitana (don't know dark or light, haven't fruited yet)
-big brownish-purple from Hungarian city of Pecs, hardy
-brogiotto nero
-albo
-dattero
-new bianco
-dauphine
-corso
-nero roco
-dottato
-sementino
-corvo siculo
-piazzetta (good for drying)
-luzzano (amber pulp)
-bianco gigante
-montesano
-bottaccio o.
-brown turkey (don't know which strain)
-raffaone (or possibly a misspelled faraone?)
-San Piero Na.
-verdino Giacomo (one of my personal favorite, green skin, deep red inside, very good for drying)
-montalcino rosa (pink skin)
-Madeleine des 2 saisons
-2 unknown Italian cultivars from Cesena

After all, I'm LOOKING FOR the following:

-Although all our fig cultivars are parthenocarpic and the fig wasp is not present here, I want to collect:

-caprifig trees (preferably good ones, for example persistent capri, capri Roeding) and wasps or larvae inside to settle down a fig wasp colony here. I'm also looking for female cultivars requiring pollination eg.:

-Smyrna, Calimyrna, Sari Lop Incir, Marabout, Zidi, Black Smyrna, Bursa Siyahi or any.

The reason for that is that I like challanges and they would be good rarities added to my collection. An alternative to the blastophagas could be artificial pollination, I like experiments.

-Any other good cultivars, for example:

-Genovese nero/black Genoa
-Black Madeira
-Black mission, better strains
-Celeste
-Negronne
-(Desert) King
-Sucre verte
-Vasilika syka
-Grise Saint Jean
-Hardy Chicago
-Marseillaise
-Noire de Caromb
-Noire de Barbentane
-Sultane
-Tena
-Nefiach
-Becane
-Verdal
-Bebera preta
-Verte
-Verdone
-Abicou
-Barnissotte/bourjassotte noire
-Beall
-Bellone
-Conadria
-Grosse grise
-Pied de Boeuf
-Longe d'Aout

-Any really hardy cultivar you know. Although our climate is very special in this tiny region (zone 8, winter absolute lows are generally -10 Celsius or warmer) but there are some harsh winters and I'd like to provide other collectors/friends from colder regions (zone 6-7) of my coutry with really hardy figs.

-A sangu, bursa siyahi, rigata rossa or any other good cultivar from the page ficuscarica.com

-Ull de perdiu, verdal from galgoni.com

-Any best US cultivar, you've talked about so many in this forum

-any other good, interesting French, Italian, Greek, etc. cultivar i don't have yet.

Some people have contacted us already from Gardenweb but I'd kindly accept any help or offer especially about the caprifig-wasp-smyrna fig staff. We also possess 14 asian persimmon (Diospyros kaki) cultivars, so we are interested in scion wood exchange of persimmon. We are interested in non-astringent japanese cultivars although we have some already.