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Subject: Trade my Lebanese Red cuttings for live tree ? Replies: 1
Posted By: JR Views: 178
 
I'm moving soon and will be transplanting my tree to my daughters place in the central valley. before I do, I will be pruning it back . There will be about 12- 8" cuttings. I'm hoping someone would like to trade. I prefer to trade with someone in Calif. (I live in the San Jose / Santa Cruz area ) and desire a dark fig.   

Subject: Let's Make a (Fig) Deal! Replies: 10
Posted By: JR Views: 553
 
PM sent :)

Subject: Did I risk my life for a Brown Turkish!? Replies: 37
Posted By: JR Views: 1,410
 
Thanks everyone !  :)

Subject: Did I risk my life for a Brown Turkish!? Replies: 37
Posted By: JR Views: 1,410
 
Time for an update to this thread! I picked the fruit from my "JR's Folly" tree yesterday, deliberately choosing a "dead ripe" fig so I could compare it to another "dead ripe" fig off my Mission, since that's how I like my Mission figs. I'm not at all a fig connoisseur and my experience is limited to mostly unknown varieties of figs, so let me - in layman terms - describe it as best I can. The JR's Folly had a deeper, stronger (heavier?) flavor than the Mission, kind of nutty/meaty, not overwhelming or over-flavorful, but still similar to the Mission. It had lots of crunchy seeds like the Mission; overall, enjoyable. This one is definitely a keeper.

Today I was compelled to pick a not-so-ripe one from JR's Folly, due to the fact that the birds were starting to peck at it. So in order to stay somewhat consistent in my taste test, I picked one from the Mission fig that was similarly not-so-ripe. I found JR's Folly to be way more tangy, with a definitely brighter red flesh than the Mission (Mission was more pink). I'd compare the taste and color to a Celeste. Also, the JR Folly's seeds of the not-so-ripe one were crunchier, and the Mission's flavor was almost flavorless compared to it.

In my first post of this thread, the last picture shows the JR's Folly fruit in it's green, unripened state. I've picked several Missions in their green, unripened state and they always are solid bright red in the center, not multi-colored like my pic shows of the JR's Folly.

As a side note, the stalks, stems and leaves, as well as the ripening fruit, of the JR's Folly seem to look quite comparable to the Mission (imho). But then again, most dark figs look like Missions to me :)

Enjoy the pics!

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Subject: i didn't mean to ignore everyone.. Replies: 41
Posted By: JR Views: 1,042
 
Pete, It is great to see that you are posting again ! I miss your humor and I am looking forward to your weekend threads. Like so many others here when you decide to start building your collection back let us know if we can help.  All the best to you !

Subject: been in and out of hospital for a week.. Replies: 55
Posted By: JR Views: 1,759
 
I too look forward to your posts .  Hope you are doing better !

Subject: All is good but really busy Replies: 2
Posted By: JR Views: 354
 
50 !  Wow !! Good job buddy .

Subject: Degree days... Replies: 7
Posted By: JR Views: 387
 
Good stuff ! Thanks !

Subject: I'm a noob! Replies: 17
Posted By: JR Views: 619
 
Welcome to the forum from the south bay !

Subject: been in and out of hospital for a week.. Replies: 55
Posted By: JR Views: 1,759
 
Get well soon Pete !  Your humor is missed !

Subject: Caprifigs in March-2014 Replies: 24
Posted By: JR Views: 1,653
 
Very useful photos and information - thanks!

Subject: Fig Wasp? Replies: 24
Posted By: JR Views: 1,216
 
I thought I'd post these figs I re-discovered this morning in downtown Los Gatos, California, just about 6 miles from my house (as the crow flies).  Just in case anyone is keeping track in the years to come concerning the extent (or how far south) the fig wasp can be found in the San Francisco Bay Area.


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Subject: Caprified figs ripen earlier Replies: 3
Posted By: JR Views: 815
 
Bump                                                                                                                                                         Any new information ?

Subject: Figs wasp sale video Replies: 6
Posted By: JR Views: 478
 
Nice !!!!!  :-D

Subject: Fig Wasp? Replies: 24
Posted By: JR Views: 1,216
 
Francisco,  Thanks for the info.  I've started a file on most of my fig finds but am not the best record keeper.  I have definitely paid closer attention to recording details on this one, though.  I started cuttings last year from both of these trees and just recently transplanted them outside into the ground.  They're doing well (fingers crossed)!

Harvey,  I'll be PM'ing you shortly!

Thanks guys -
JR

Subject: Fig Wasp? Replies: 24
Posted By: JR Views: 1,216
 

Harvey, 

I'm unaware of any bing cherries in my immediate neighborhood, or the neighborhood in which I found the fig with the wasps.  I live in a micro-climate (in an area of many different micro-climates) in the Santa Cruz Mountains some 15 miles away from Campbell and plant/tree activity can vary significantly.  For example, on my side of the ridge I get about 40" annual rainfall, whereas just down the road 1/2 mile they will only measure 30" a year.  Yet up the mountain about a mile, they measure 60".  Campbell get about 14" or so annually.  It's crazy but interesting. 
Also, I don't know if you have any apricot trees, but mine are in full bloom.


Francisco,

I'm not sure if the eye was open or closed when I cut through the fig.  I went back yesterday to take a look at the tree and saw that most eyes were closed, but some were open.  I also went to take a look at a tree I knew of closer to the Niles area Harvey mentioned in Fremont (off Durham Road) and saw a lot more fig wasps in the figs, along with the fact that most eyes were closed but some were open.  Admittedly, I didn't pick a lot of fruit so as not to disturb the wasp activity (I want to keep as many of these guys around as possible!). 

Here's some photos I took of the tree + fruit from the one in Campbell:

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And these are from the one in Fremont on Durham Road:

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And thanks for the website links from Harvey and Cooper... I'll get to those as soon as I can!


Subject: Fig Wasp? Replies: 24
Posted By: JR Views: 1,216
 
Hi guys,

Thanks for the responses!  I took the picture yesterday and these were wasps that were still inside of the fig; I actually cut the fig open and found them inside.  I will definitely try to keep an eye on the tree in the coming weeks to hopefully catch some fig wasp activity.  In the meantime, I think I need to learn a bit more about figs, wasps, and caprification  :) 

Subject: Fig Wasp? Replies: 24
Posted By: JR Views: 1,216
 
Taste like chicken   :-D

Subject: Fig Wasp? Replies: 24
Posted By: JR Views: 1,216
 
I found these guys in Campbell, California in a tree that I've been watching for about a year now.  So what do you think... are these THE wasp or just another bug???

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Subject: OT: how to make oatmeal edible. Replies: 25
Posted By: JR Views: 948
 
Orange soda ??????????? O.K. James I need to hear that story !

Subject: Some kids have all the luck Replies: 7
Posted By: JR Views: 606
 

I started on a new job a couple months back and since I always have my “fig radar” going, I noticed these large fig trees on the property across the way.   I finally had the opportunity to ask for some cuttings when I saw the owner pruning his other fruit trees.  He told me lived there for about 27 years and all he knew about the figs was that they were white.  The house looks like it was built in the ‘30’s (maybe older, making these trees about 80+ years old) and his lot was probably the last of a larger ranch, which is all commercial buildings now.  I told him his kids were lucky to have forts in fig trees J. 


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Subject: no leaf lobes - what fig ?? Replies: 13
Posted By: JR Views: 1,267
 
Hamma ?

Subject: Growing figs in San Jose? Replies: 22
Posted By: JR Views: 1,167
 
Howie - I recently purchased a VDB from a local nursery, and it has 2 figs on it.  So, I think your VDB's will do well here.

Tam-  I can't answer your question about the Desert King simply because I've never had one, although I have recently up-potted a cutting to a 1 gallon pot.  I did find a tree a while ago that I was unsure of (thought it was a Kadota) and I posted pictures of it, and another member looked at it (a San Jose guy) and said he thought it was a Desert King. 

I haven't seen any wasps, but I believe I have run across a couple of caprifigs (they were hollow and dry inside with a slimy, rubbery, insipid meat).  Because of my lack of experience, I'm not even sure they were caprifigs, though they were definitely different than the common figs I've been finding.  Sorry I'm not much help!

Subject: Growing figs in San Jose? Replies: 22
Posted By: JR Views: 1,167
 
Hi Howie, Tam and Harvey are spot-on with their assessment of San Jose (IMHO).  I live just outside San Jose in the Santa Cruz Mountains, but I'm in San Jose most every day.   I see so many fig trees during the week (I drive around a lot...) that my goal is to find a new one every week to potentially harvest some cuttings from.  Most of them turn out to be (what I believe to be) Missions, but I'm not complaining :)

There are a couple of forum members that I know of who live in San Jose, so you'll probably be getting some more responses.  There are a lot of common fig tree varieties at the nurseries, so I believe you can grow just about anything here.

I've had really good luck with gowing Missions (of course), but I also have a Panache that produced this year.  I've put in the ground a Sal's, an Ischia White, a Santa Cruz Dark, and a UCD Dauphine, which all seem to be doing well, though they've not produced any fruit yet.

Good luck with the move and maybe we can get together when you get a chance!  Feel free to PM me, if you want-

JR

Subject: OT Off to Surgery Replies: 63
Posted By: JR Views: 1,676
 
Prayers for a speedy recovery !

Subject: intoducing me Replies: 35
Posted By: JR Views: 1,254
 
Greetings Ed 

Subject: The top fig Replies: 45
Posted By: JR Views: 1,577
 
Me ! what kind is she ? What a beauty !

Subject: Kadota, maybe? Replies: 6
Posted By: JR Views: 478
 
I must be getting old, rcantor, because I had to have my daughter explain to me your song reference

I'm still stuck in the 70's...

:)

Subject: Goklop, Sarizeybek, and Bardacik Replies: 24
Posted By: JR Views: 3,239
 
Oh by the way, rcantor, if you don't mind me asking...  What were you doing that had you in Palo Alto AND Porterville?  Seems an unlikely combination, but must have been rewarding to warrant the 4 hour drive!

Subject: Goklop, Sarizeybek, and Bardacik Replies: 24
Posted By: JR Views: 3,239
 

rcantor- I love my area, too... can't beat the micro-climates we have, being between the coast and the valley floor of the Bay Area.  We are above the fog in the summer and the coastal breeze usually keeps us cooler than San Jose, which is much appreciated when temps get above 100 down there.  Sometimes we get trapped in an inversion layer and experience warmer temps than the valley, but its infrequent and short-lived.  Just a few weeks ago San Jose was in the 90's and we were 104, but it only lasted a couple of days before the fog cooled us off.  I love the weather here but hate the politics, but have been unable to find any place comparable (weather-wise). 

One place that is pretty comparable weather-wise and complimentary to my lifestyle is a little town called Three Rivers, which is just below Sequoia National Park.  About 5 years ago we came close to moving there, having purchased 3 acres of river-front property.  It would have been an IDEAL location to grow figs: warm weather, rich & sandy soil, and lots of sun and water.  (In fact, there are many fig trees growing wild in some of the smaller streams in the area.)  I think my Turkish beauties would have loved it there....

7deuce - Glad to hear that your Turkish beauties are doing well (though I'm envious just a little bit)... can't wait to see pictures and hope you have a successful crop!


Subject: Kadota, maybe? Replies: 6
Posted By: JR Views: 478
 
I picked these from a tree in a Taco Bell parking lot yesterday on one of my fig hunts.  Upon further investigation, when I sliced the fruit open, I was suprised to find the colors varying from "bright pink popcorn" (not in the picture) to "bubble gum" in the unripe fruit and a sort of "tea" color in the ripe fruit.  The skin of the ripe fig is a yellowish-green color with small white specks.  I'd provide pictures of the leaves, but I didn't take photos of them right away and they got quite crispy and dry.

The taste is sweet but I can't quite explain it; my daughter says they taste like mushy pear.

Anyone have any ideas on the variety?  Kadota, maybe?




Subject: Goklop, Sarizeybek, and Bardacik Replies: 24
Posted By: JR Views: 3,239
 
I found conflicting information about those Turkish figs needing a wasp, and unfortunately we may never know.... I lost every single one of those Turkish beauties and have not yet *sniff* fully recovered from the loss... *sniff* *sob*.... Sadly, a couple of months ago we had a string of unfortunate events (which seems to happen to me a lot), which, combined with my inexperience, resulted in tragedy for most of them.  Some were lost to birds, some to rodents, and some to me using the wrong soil mixture and overwatering which led to fungus gnats.  By the time I figured out that I had the fungus gnats, I was down to just one Turkish fig left.  The last one was a Bardacik, which hung on for quite a while and had survived several bird uprootings (thanks to the Root Riot cube, I think) and slug attacks.  It ultimately met its demise when I put it on my deck, unknowingly placing it directly above the air conditioner fan under the deck... it didn't stand a chance.

I'm hoping to adopt some more Turkish cuttings next Spring - the mini nut included - when I can focus more of my attention on them.  I've learned my lesson NOT to try to take on 40-50 cuttings at a time and I'll stick with just a dozen or so at a time.  Though actually right now 3 at a time seems to be a good number :)

rcantor, yes we do get frost, but I'm not too worried about it.  The idea of growing a fig from an exotic location outweighs the desire to eat a fig from an exotic location.  I'm pretty sure we don't have the fig wasp here, but whether or not the frost is a factor does pique my interest.... My dad lives in the Central Valley (Visalia, CA) where they get the occasional frost, and I do know that they have the wasp there.  It may be that they only get a few frosts a year, while we have frosts more often (with frosts sometimes extending into April...).  If you have some more info on the relationship between the wasp and frost, I'd definitely love to hear it. 


 

Subject: My first taste of a "white" fig Replies: 8
Posted By: JR Views: 701
 
On my way home today I stopped off at a local organic farm stand, "Everett's Family Farm."  I've been eyeballing an 80-year old Mission fig tree in their front yard for a while and stopped by yesterday and suggested to one of the workers that they might want to put some of the breba crop out for sale.  He said he would talk to the owner about it.

So I stopped by today, hoping that they'd taken my suggestion.  Lo and behold I found these beautiful figs, which obviously aren't Mission.  One of the owners was there and I asked him about these and he said they are "white kadota" figs from the neighbor's tree.  He said there are probably 3 fig trees on his property and perhaps he'll bring some others up.  He also said that he might be able to get me some cuttings in the near future.  We exchanged emails and we'll see how it goes!  

The white kadota figs taste nothing like a Mission (IMHO).  They are soft, extremely moist, and the seeds have a soft crunch.  The exterior green skin is so soft it rubs off with your finger.  There's not much flavor, just a light figgy taste.  It's hard to compare since I'm so used to eating the Missions that just fall from the trees.  

Which leads me to ask the question, What are the benchmark figs to use for reference when describing fig fruit?  I always compare it to the Mission, but I've seen others use the Hardy Chicago or Brown Turkey, so now I'm curious.... 


Subject: My Mission mission Replies: 2
Posted By: JR Views: 455
 
Just thought I'd share my latest find....

I spotted this bush-type fig tree a while back and figured by the size of it that it was another Mission.  I had some time on my hands this morning so I went to get a cutting.  It was alongside Interstate 880, near the San Jose airport, so luckily there was a frontage road with a single branch hanging over the fence and I was able to get a cutting pretty easily.  Upon a closer look, though, it does not appear to be a Mission...  I did not see a breba crop (but then again it was a rather large bush about 25 feet in diameter and 15 feet tall), and all the Missions in this area (Santa Clara Valley) have rather large and visible breba crops right now.

Comparing it to my other Missions, these branches are light brown with green undertones as opposed to the white trunk or dark brown branches of the Mission.  The leaves seem darker and "fuzzier" (???), similar to a Sal's that I have in a 1 gallon pot.  The biggest difference that I see - although the main crop is under-ripe - is that it's not elongated like the Mission fruit.  Hopefully you can see in the picture that the fruit looks like it may turn purple, as there is a ring of purple between the seed pocket and the meat.  It just doesn't look like any Mission that I've seen... so it looks like I'll have to go back this Fall to find the ripe fruit!





Subject: my lucky day! Replies: 17
Posted By: JR Views: 954
 
Yeah, I'm about 5'11" tall, so that makes that tree pretty big.  The fruit I tasted was the breba crop, and since you mentioned it I'm going to have to taste it again right now to refresh my memory :)

The fruit is sweet and flavorful, has crunchy seeds, is moist, and is thin-skinned.  Yum!

Subject: my lucky day! Replies: 17
Posted By: JR Views: 954
 
My wife draws the line at carrying a shovel in her car...

Subject: Hopeless Replies: 17
Posted By: JR Views: 869
 
Whew . . . I'm glad I'm not the only one !

Subject: my lucky day! Replies: 17
Posted By: JR Views: 954
 
On the way back from picking up a couple of free fig trees from a craigslist ad, I convinced my wife to take an alternative route so I could do my normal fig tree scouting (she drives, I scan).  As we rounded a bend in an older subdivision, out of the corner of my eye (tucked halfway back in a vacant lot and almost out of sight for the direction we were going) I spotted a beautiful sight... I swear I could hear angels singing... it was a fig tree.  And not some run-of-the-mill scraggly bush type of fig tree; this was a Paul Bunyan-sized fig tree that commanded attention.  Naturally, I blurted out to my wife to STOP THE CAR NOW and then BACK UP BACK UP BACK UP!!!  (Which she did without question)  Since I make her carry pruning shears in her car for such an occasion, I grabbed them and quickly went to work, not paying any attention to my wife telling me that the local residents were starting to stare.  I reassured her that nobody would care since it's a vacant, unkempt lot... then I posed next to the tree while she took the picture (did I mention I have a great wife??!!).  I took a cutting and grabbed some of the ripe fruit and took off before the police showed up (just kidding).  As we were leaving I spoke with the resident who lived next door to see if they had any info on the tree.  All she knew about it was that it was over 100 years old; I think it's a Mission, but since I'm a novice I think everything's a Mission :)

Here she is in all her beauty!!!













Subject: my craigslist find Replies: 1
Posted By: JR Views: 331
 
I picked up a couple of 1 gallon fig trees today that were FREE on craigslist! They are reportedly a "green" fig with light, multi-colored meat... but my hunch is that it'll turn out to be a Mission.  She said they came from the next door neighbor's tree after they cut it down.  Apparently this tree was huge, over 2 foot in diameter - what a shame!  :(

Here's a picture of my new addition (and I didn't have to risk my life climbing up a freeway off-ramp!) -





Subject: My latest roadside conquest Replies: 5
Posted By: JR Views: 500
 
Wanted to share my latest roadside conquest...  Spotted this on a hiking trail that runs alongside the highway and although the fruit doesn't look that great, I couldn't help myself.  I don't know what it is, but it's a fig!!!!!   

Good luck in identifying it -- the fruit looks and feels deflated (for lack of a better word); the skin/meat itself feels squishy, thick and moist; the flower/seed area is on the drier side, but not completely dry; and the opening is tight.  It may just be dropping fruit early due to the latest heat wave....(??)  Also, most of the leaves on it had 5 lobes, but some had 3.

Does anyone have any ideas???







On another note, here's my dessert for tonight...




Subject: Yediveren figs .Very large.First figs in this year Replies: 13
Posted By: JR Views: 1,340
 
Those are some very impressive figs . . . I'm jealous !!! 

Subject: OT Forum Feel Replies: 2
Posted By: JR Views: 403
 
I feel the same !  :)

Subject: The Ultimate Container Score Replies: 32
Posted By: JR Views: 1,512
 
jackpot !!!!!

Subject: New fig addict Replies: 13
Posted By: JR Views: 784
 
Welcome aboard... it's a fun ride for sure ! ! ! 

Subject: Did I risk my life for a Brown Turkish!? Replies: 37
Posted By: JR Views: 1,410
 
Considering the large number of fig trees in the San Jose area, my guess is that either a bird or a rodent attempted to build a nest... so it could have started by a seed or scion.

Subject: Did I risk my life for a Brown Turkish!? Replies: 37
Posted By: JR Views: 1,410
 
Love it !!! :)

Subject: Perlite Trommel Replies: 14
Posted By: JR Views: 1,166
 
Sweet !  :)

Subject: Did I risk my life for a Brown Turkish!? Replies: 37
Posted By: JR Views: 1,410
 

So I woke up this morning around 4:30 am, which is my norm.  I had my coffee... didn't have to work today... so pretty soon I'm bored.  Then I had an idea.  It was a GREAT idea... at least at first.  I thought that since it was so early I could go "borrow" a branch or two from this beautiful fig tree that I spotted days earlier that was clinging to life on the side of a freeway.  Its location was precarious, to say the least, but not on anyone's private property so I thought it would be an easy snip, snip and I'm outta there.  Since it was so early and it's a Friday, I figured there'd be few cars on the road and no one really paying attention to me.  It was starting to get light out so I headed out.

I was on the road and was merging onto the freeway and I had positioned myself so that there were no cars behind me so I would have plenty of time to pull off my heist.  Since I was not quite sure exactly where it was located, the fig tree snuck up on me way too quickly and I had to abruptly pull over.  It wasn’t exactly how I remembered it; there wasn’t much room - just enough for my truck to be over the line - and it was near the end of an over-crossing/flyway off ramp.  It seemed the fig tree was growing out of a crack in the concrete, on the side of the ramp.  There were a few more cars on the road than I anticipated and I felt a bit like “Frogger.”  When it was clear, I jumped out of my truck, ran around to the side, grabbed a branch and leaned and reached over the guardrail to snip off a good-sized branch.  After I got the branch, still leaning, I lost my footing and dropped my Corona pruning shears.  They fell about 6 feet below me, lodging themselves in the branches of the tree.   Frazzled, I went to jump back in my truck to take off but then I realized… hey, that’s $30 I’m leaving in that tree.  So I got back out of my truck, dodging cars.

I ran ahead 50 yards or so to jump the guardrail, ran back down the steep embankment… but now standing at the base of the fig tree I see my pruning shears about 12 feet above me, with no way to get to them because the tree’s coming out of the crack in the side of the flyway.  So I do what any normal person would do… I start shaking the &%#$ out of the tree to dislodge my shears.  It works, sending a couple extra branches down with them (yay!).

Then I run back to my truck, hoping that Highway Patrol doesn’t see me coming over the embankment with an armful of branches.  I dodged a few more cars and hopped in my truck. 

When I got home I saw that the branches had a variety of lobed leaves, ranging from 3 to 7 lobes.  First I took pictures so that I could “show off” my fig find, then prepared the branches for rooting.  Then I got on Figs 4 Fun forum and searched this anomaly and came across a thread that is remarkably similar to what I got, titled “Local Nursery Brown Not.”  It starts sinking in that maybe it’s a Brown Turkish fig… and my heart sinks.  I’m thinking, Did I really risk my life for a Brown Turkey?  I probably have like 10 of them started in 1 gallon pots…

So here’s some photos of my heist…would love some input on its possible variety, even if to confirm its a BT.  Also could use some advice on early morning activities so as not to do something so foolhardy again J


















Subject: 6-June, 1944 Replies: 23
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And thank you for reminding us !!!!!

Subject: Figs for the tropical beach Replies: 9
Posted By: JR Views: 706
 
O.K. I'm ready to move !