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Subject: $7 fig trees for spring/summer delivery, around 150+ varieties Replies: 775
Posted By: mizuyari Views: 28,750
 
On the page "Fall 2017 Fig Trees for Sale", it is written that "You can now advance order fig trees for delivery around October 2017". On the other hand, it is written in the table that "March 2017". Which is correct?  

Subject: Banana Queen Replies: 4
Posted By: mizuyari Views: 175
 
Hi,

バナナクイーンはフランスから導入されたロングトゥード(Longue d'aout)という品種で別名を”バナーネ”と呼ばれています。
(translate Japanese into English) =>
Banana Queen, which original name is "Longue d'aout" as well as "Banane",  was imported from France.

Edit:
Sorry for character corruption.

Subject: It's time to prepare for season grafting Replies: 31
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Hello Timo,

Nice to meet you.
I will post propagation of Violeta soon if Violeta survives the cold weather in Japan.

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Hello Francisco,

The following varieties are reported to be resistant to Ceratocystis canker:
Black Ischia
Negronne

The following varieties are reported to continue growing due to their strong vigor, even if they are infected with root-knot-nematoda:
Zidi
King

I want to use Alma as rootstock because Alma is immune to fig mosaic disease. I do not have to worry about the growth of the root system.

I usually use unattractive varieties as rootstocks to change their varieties.

Hiroshi


Subject: It's time to prepare for season grafting Replies: 31
Posted By: mizuyari Views: 714
 
Thank you Francisco. On page 53, the grafter adjusts cambium layers at the lower left, and crosses cambium layers at the upper right.

Sorry for that the following explanation may be an irrelevant. As for the cut-grafting method, we can adjust cambium layers of scion wood and rootstock. In the following picture, film (thick line) is inserted to insulate the scion wood from the rootstock.  Sample is rose.
(日本園芸協会, Plant breeding, p. 70, )

p70_film.pngA, B and C: film is inserted
D: tongue is removed
E: control group

Comparing A and C, adjusting cambium layers at the bottom of the scion wood is important.




Subject: It's time to prepare for season grafting Replies: 31
Posted By: mizuyari Views: 714
 
Haya,

Also in chip budding, the grafter crosses cambium layers.


1:05 - 1:45

Hiroshi

Subject: Still a little confused with capri fig trees Replies: 8
Posted By: mizuyari Views: 178
 
In the section of 'Croisic', it says "The only edible caprifig".

Subject: It's time to prepare for season grafting Replies: 31
Posted By: mizuyari Views: 714
 
Thank you Francisco. I will propagate Violeta by grafting soon, if they are not damaged by cold weather.

Hiroshi

Subject: Kuruma Kuromitsu Replies: 12
Posted By: mizuyari Views: 322
 
Is it this site?

http://www.engei.net/Browse.asp?ID=108416

Subject: Fig breeding Replies: 113
Posted By: mizuyari Views: 1,951
 
Hello,  GregMartin,

Nice to meet you. You are welcome.

mizuyari

Subject: Fig breeding Replies: 113
Posted By: mizuyari Views: 1,951
 
Hello, congatom,

Sorry for interrupting the discussion.

Hi, hoosierbanana,
Nice to meet you. I have a comment on your comment of #40.

The method is patented only in Japan.
http://www.j-tokkyo.com/2005/A01H/JP2005-095054.shtml

Best regards,
mizuyari

Subject: graft cutting Replies: 81
Posted By: mizuyari Views: 5,655
 
Hello Otmani007,

Nice to meet you, and thank you for your comment.

There are many grafting methods. A method used in this experiment is called as '切り接ぎ(probably cut grafting)', and this method is generally used in Japan. Let's try.

Hiroshi

Subject: graft cutting Replies: 81
Posted By: mizuyari Views: 5,655
 
Hello ascpete,

Thank you for your comments.

You are always giving us great information and your insight. Especially, I am interested in 'fig thermotherapy experiment'. I look forward to the results.

As for grafting, if you wrap scions in Parafilm, you can prevent drying. If a scion dries in spite of wrapping, combination between the cambium layers are not well formed.

Hiroshi

Subject: graft cutting Replies: 81
Posted By: mizuyari Views: 5,655
 
Hello Francisco,

Thank you for your comments.

If I had not gotten to know you, I would have stopped the cultivation of figs. Your Portuguese varieties have been rescue for me. Thank you very much.

Hiroshi

Subject: graft cutting Replies: 81
Posted By: mizuyari Views: 5,655
 
Muito obrigado, Grasa.

I'm so sorry to take time off for long period.

Subject: graft cutting Replies: 81
Posted By: mizuyari Views: 5,655
 
iV) Conclusion

This method has plus and minus points.

plus:
By dividing a scion into pieces, we can increase success rate. If we assume that success rate of rooting cutting is 80% and that success rate of grafting is 100% and that a scion has 4 nodes, the success rate is
(1-0.2*0.2*0.2*0.2) * 100 = 99.84%.
Thus we can increase success rate from 80% to 99.84%.

In case a scion is thin and short, because we can utilize stored energy in rootstock, we can make the growth of the tree better.

It seems that rooting graft-cutting is easier than rooting single-node cutting.


minus:
We need a long dormant wood of 20-25 cm as a rootstock.

It is more reliable to graft on rooted rootstocks than on twigs.


notes:
Buds of rootstock should be sliced off before planting. Nipping shoots of rootstock is a troublesome job.

I kept the following three points in mind when growing them.
   Not to overwater.
   Exposure to light(sunlight) after buds begin to open.
   Applying weakened liquid fertilizer after roots appear.

In Japan、'Ceratocystis canker' is serious problem. Once fig tree is infected with 'Ceratocystis canker', the tree dies. There is no curing method at present. It is estimated that about 10% of land is contaminated by 'Ceratocystis canker' in Hiroshima Prefecture in Japan. 'Kibaru' and 'Black Ischia' are resistant to 'Ceratocystis canker'.


Thank you for reading.

Subject: graft cutting Replies: 81
Posted By: mizuyari Views: 5,655
 
iii) fruits
So far, 'Seabrook Banana' and 'Smith' were harvested.

Cultivar: Seabrook Banana
Date: August 18 2014
Weight: 72 grams
Brix: 18%
https://www.flickr.com/photos/118875434@N04/15230260439/in/set-72157647859274410

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Cultivar: Smith
Date: August 13 2014
Weight: 59 grams
Brix : 12.8 %
https://www.flickr.com/photos/118875434@N04/15230466547/in/set-72157647859274410/

Subject: graft cutting Replies: 81
Posted By: mizuyari Views: 5,655
 
ii) Results of graft-cutting

The following pictures were taken on August 13 and 14.

Cucumber (The tallest one is about 130 centimeters tall.)
https://www.flickr.com/photos/118875434@N04/sets/72157648261796942/

Gino (The tallest one is 100 centimeters tall.)
https://www.flickr.com/photos/118875434@N04/sets/72157648280674765/

Narragansett (The tallest one is 140 centimeters tall.)
https://www.flickr.com/photos/118875434@N04/sets/72157648215399196/

Pawpaw's Turkey (The tallest one is 40 centimeters tall.)
https://www.flickr.com/photos/118875434@N04/sets/72157647865026498/

Seabrook banana (The tallest one is 120 centimeters tall.)
https://www.flickr.com/photos/118875434@N04/sets/72157647857555467/

Smith (The tallest one is 100 centimeters tall.)
https://www.flickr.com/photos/118875434@N04/sets/72157647858910419/


success rate:
cultivar / success - failure / success rate
Cucmber / 4 - 0 / 100%
Gino / 3 - 1 / 75%
Narragansett / 4 - 0 / 100%
Pawpaw's turkey / 3 - 1 / 75%
Seabrook banana / 2 - 2 / 50%
Smith / 4 - 0 / 100%

Total: 20/24 = 83%

Subject: graft cutting Replies: 81
Posted By: mizuyari Views: 5,655
 
i) Transplant
On May 6, transplant was performed.

Before transplant:
At this pont, all plants are alive.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/118875434@N04/sets/72157648215062856/

During transplant:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/118875434@N04/sets/72157647864768698/

After transplant:
We transplanted the biggist plant in each variety to a 3-gallons pot, and the other to a half gallon pot. Soil mix for 3-gallons pot is ( Coco Coir : Perlite = 1 : 1 ). Liquid fertilizer will be applied. Some plants are wilting dut to transplant shock.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/118875434@N04/sets/72157648261623162/

Subject: graft cutting Replies: 81
Posted By: mizuyari Views: 5,655
 
It's a long time since I post last time. I am sorry. There was a serious problem on this experiment. There was a possibility that variety names of figs were wrong.

I obtained these scions by the barter with the Chinese whom I got to know through this forum last year. After searched on the Net, I knew that his group is infamous for mixing-up and renaming of variety names.

Actually, I harvested several 'Smith' figs, but they were not 'Smith'. So, in the following, please pay attention to a propagation method, not to fruiting characteristics.

We will describe our results in the following order.
i) transplant
ii) Results of graft-cutting
iii) fruits
iv) Conclusion

reference:
http://farc.pref.fukuoka.jp/farc/kenpo/kenpo-32/32-17.pdf

Subject: graft cutting Replies: 81
Posted By: mizuyari Views: 5,655
 
Hello Francisco,

Thank you for your thoughtful comments.

I googled 'cambium', and found the following site.

"The Vital Cambium"
http://www.appleman.ca/korchard/grfting3.htm

This site also says, "The cambium is a very thin layer of tissue, sometimes only one cell thick".  From now on, I will graft more carefully.

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I checked grafting methods.
http://www.ces.ncsu.edu/depts/hort/hil/grafting.html
http://www.appleman.ca/korchard/clfgraft.htm
http://www.appleman.ca/korchard/bkgraft.htm

According to the above sites, our method looks like 'cleft graft' because we cleft a rootstock, and like 'bark graft' because we cleft near the bark. And we can graft anywhere we want to.

­­­­­­­­­­==========
Although the grafter succeeded in graft, I have comments.

1m00s-1m05s
He makes the face flat by a chisel, but I am afraid that he also shave off a cambium layer, since cambium layer is very thin.

1m06s-1m15s and 1m47s-2m03s
I do not know why he changed the method to shape a scion. In the latter method, I am afraid that he is crushing the cambium cells.

3m26-3m45s
The pressure joining a scion and a rootstock together seems a little bit weak, since a firm contact between them is necessary.

4m30s-5m20s
Acclimatization to air seems to be too rapid. I am afraid that leafs will wilt.

­­­­­­­­­­==========
Your comment,
'The great advantages of these systems is that you have 3 areas of cambium contact which do certainly boost the effectiveness and the chances of success.'
gets to the point. I myself did the graft, but I did not notice it. I am stupid.

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I understand that it is necessary to match a diameter with in omega grafting. There are limitations in omega grafting.

­­­­­­­­­­==========
Europe has a long tradition of grafting. I am learning from them.

Hiroshi

Subject: graft cutting Replies: 81
Posted By: mizuyari Views: 5,655
 
Hello lampo,

Thank you. I am sorry for the late reply again.

I agree with you on rooting on water. As shown in the following pictures, lenticels appear within 7 days for a bigger stick.

Again, I envy your climate. Here in Japan, mold occurs within about 4 days in a sealed container, even after washing cuttings with liquid antibacterial dish soap and bleach.


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To tell you the truth, I have a difficulty in identifying a cambium layer of a thick fig scion ( More precisely, I do not know where a cambium layer is.).

I soaked a sliced thick fig cutting (diameter is about 3/4 inches (2 cm) ) in water for about a week.

pic. 1
https://www.flickr.com/photos/118875434@N04/13888394394/in/set-72157644034867164

As shown in pic. 1, since there is a slight elevation probably due to a cell division in the neighborhood of the bark, the dark brown part is probably a cambium (ca) layer.


I rotate it from the cross section to the sliced plane (pic. 2-5).
URL
https://www.flickr.com/photos/118875434@N04/13888076203/in/set-72157644034867164
https://www.flickr.com/photos/118875434@N04/13888007935/in/set-72157644034867164
https://www.flickr.com/photos/118875434@N04/13888077873/in/set-72157644034867164
https://www.flickr.com/photos/118875434@N04/13888411744/in/set-72157644034867164

The dark brown part also appears on the sliced plane.

As shown in pic. 4-5, cambium layer is not straight on the sliced plane, probably because the sliced plane is not flat and because the scion is not straight.


Next, I measured the width of the cambium layer.

Top View (pic. 6):
https://www.flickr.com/photos/118875434@N04/13888010305/in/set-72157644034867164
The width of the cambium layer is about 0.3 mm (1/100 inch).

Side View (pic. 7):
https://www.flickr.com/photos/118875434@N04/13888413324/in/set-72157644034867164
The width of the cambium layer is about 0.1 mm (1/300 inch).

Thus cambium layer is very very thin ( I do not know how many cells are there in the thickness of the cambium layer.). It seems very difficult to put together cambium layers of a scion and a rootstock.


Finally, I sliced it again (pic. 8-11). (Sorry for dirty hand).
https://www.flickr.com/photos/118875434@N04/13888414484/in/set-72157644034867164
https://www.flickr.com/photos/118875434@N04/13888081873/in/set-72157644034867164
https://www.flickr.com/photos/118875434@N04/13888082563/in/set-72157644034867164
https://www.flickr.com/photos/118875434@N04/13888416514/in/set-72157644034867164

As shown in pic. 11, I thoght A was the cambium layer so far, but it was wrong.

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Farmer's success rate of grafting of fig is more than 80%. I have to try it hard.
http://www.pref.shimane.lg.jp/nogyogijutsu/gijutsu/genti-jirei/fukyu-jyouhou/2007/07032izu010.html
(Japanese, sorry)

According to the above site, success rate depends on the grafting method.

By the following grafting method ( I do not know how to call this method in English.), success rate is more than 95%.

Kiwi:
http://fruitgrowing.blog24.fc2.com/blog-entry-303.html
http://weo08.at.webry.info/201101/article_15.html
Maple:
http://www.e-momiji.com/~e-momiji/Kanri/tsugiki/tsugiki.htm
http://www.e-momiji.com/~e-momiji/Kanri/tsugiki/kiritsugi.htm

side grafting: 0%

cleft grafting: 0%

An amateur tried omega grafitng. The success rate is 100%.
http://blog.livedoor.jp/greentea180cc/archives/6266117.html
http://blog.livedoor.jp/greentea180cc/archives/cat_200507.html

Hiroshi

Subject: graft cutting Replies: 81
Posted By: mizuyari Views: 5,655
 
Hello Sas,

Nice to meet you. Thank you.

I'm sorry for the delay in responding.

It has been 4 years since I started fig cultivation. As shown in the pictures, fig trees are two or three years old. The first generation of figs were abandoned because they were infected with root‐knot nematode.

I am also a biginner of grafting. I tried grafting for the first time last year. I am checking the grafting method and time for figs. For a dormant scion and rootstock, I will choose the method which I used in this topic. On the other hand, for a green scion and rootstock, I will try many grafting method, including bud grafting.

>Did you ever try to graft two fig varieties on one?

No, I did not. I want to try it to save space, but I do not know how to align the vigor of each branch.

>How much water do you give your figs in these containers?

As for watering, I water them with a sprinkling can. I will give 1-2 gallons per one container per day in August and September. It will be a hard work. With self watering container, I can save labor and can reduce the stress for the fig. I'll consider it. Thank you for your good advice.

Hiroshi

Subject: graft cutting Replies: 81
Posted By: mizuyari Views: 5,655
 
Today's seedling (69th day)
https://www.flickr.com/photos/118875434@N04/13834507034/in/set-72157643920380173

I wanted to transplant seedlings into the pots today. But it rained all day. I gave it up.

Outside of my house
https://www.flickr.com/photos/118875434@N04/13834180823/in/set-72157643920380173
https://www.flickr.com/photos/118875434@N04/13834161255/in/set-72157643920380173
https://www.flickr.com/photos/118875434@N04/13834188583/in/set-72157643920380173

Capacity of the containers is about 10 gallons (40 liters). The recent minimum and maximum temperature is 50 (10) and 68 (20) degs in F (degs in C), respectively. 3-4 leaves came out. Due to root knot nematoda I can not plant them in ground.

Sorry for being few contents of this post. When I finish transplantation, I will report it.

Hiroshi

Subject: graft cutting Replies: 81
Posted By: mizuyari Views: 5,655
 
Hi Francisco,

Thank you for detailed answers. I understand that FMV does not matter under good cultivation conditions. But the climate of Japan gives stress to figs to a small extent. In some cases, small fig trees of some cultivars (in pot) stop growth due to FMV.

It is difficult to perform meristem tissue-culture in a kitchen, but your poroposed method is capable of putting into practice. I'll give it a try. Proteins are denatured at around 60 degrees. So I will soak cuttings (Celeste and Archipel) in hot water of around 122 degs in F, or, 50 degs in C. I wish them to survive.

Thank you again for your idea.

Hiroshi

Subject: graft cutting Replies: 81
Posted By: mizuyari Views: 5,655
 
Hi Aaron,

Nice to meet you.

Thank you for your new idea.

To tell you the truth, I do not know the characteristics of the variety which I used as scions. So, I looked into that a little bit. "Smith" is said to be a hard rooter.
http://figs4funforum.websitetoolbox.com/post/rooting-smith-cuttings-6781095

Hiroshi

Subject: graft cutting Replies: 81
Posted By: mizuyari Views: 5,655
 
Hi ascpete,

Thank you.

Your hydroponic fig cultivation is interesting. Especially in the case of #5, figs can lengthen their roots freely in the water than in the soil. Because there is less stress, figs will grow well.

Hiroshi

Subject: graft cutting Replies: 81
Posted By: mizuyari Views: 5,655
 
Ryan-san, nice to meet you.

Soil recipe is (Coconut Coir : Bora soil (ボラ土) =1:1).  Please read #38 and  #41 on this thread. At the beginning, this soil was fluffy and contains much air. As time passes, this soil has been compressed.

Too much water makes the bottom part of container too wet (as shown in i)). This too wet makes scion rot. In our case, the depth of the container is about 6 inchs, and the length of a scion is about 8 inchs. Thus, I use spray to avoid watering too much. In the case of deep container, this problem is evaded

i)
http://figs4funforum.websitetoolbox.com/post/easy-simple-and-practical-tricks-to-increase-potted-fig-cutting-survival-rates-6719728?pid=1281407982#post1281407982

Hiroshi

Subject: graft cutting Replies: 81
Posted By: mizuyari Views: 5,655
 
Hi Francisco,

Thank you.

I am a beginner and I know only one grafting method. I am also learning from your comments and videos. Thank you for teaching us genuine methods.

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By the way, your comment on the following thread is very instructive.

"Hot water Rescue"
http://figs4funforum.websitetoolbox.com/post/hot-water-rescue-6816776
#8
"Apparently, thermal therapy can also be administered to figs to control FMV."

The thermotherapy is usually used to inactivate the function of virus. However, from your comment and the following thread, it seems possible to kill virus by bathing scions in hot water (around 122 degs in F, or, 50 degs in C).
"Here We Go FMV... Sorry..."
http://figs4funforum.websitetoolbox.com/post/here-we-go-fmv-sorry-6275320

Have you ever tried this method? Or, may I try this method? By observing the physical appearances of leafs, it is possible to check whether the tree is infected with a virus.

Hiroshi

Subject: graft cutting Replies: 81
Posted By: mizuyari Views: 5,655
 
In the following, failures so far are listed.

i) budding from rootstock
https://www.flickr.com/photos/118875434@N04/13531654564/in/set-72157643196680015

To prevent this from happening, cut all the buds of rootstock off before planting.


ii) unhealthy scion
I grafted scion of which the color of a part of the cambium layer is brown not green on a trial basis. As a result, mold grew and both scion and rootstock dead.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/118875434@N04/13531660214/in/set-72157643196680015

Healthy scion and rootstock should be used. And before grafting, cleaning with antibacterial liquid soap and sterilization with 10% bleach solution are recommended to prevent germs from invading from the cut ends.


iii) transplant shock
I planted 8 scions in one container.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/118875434@N04/13531663834/in/set-72157643196680015

I should have planted one cutting in one pot.

Subject: graft cutting Replies: 81
Posted By: mizuyari Views: 5,655
 
55 days have passed after planting. The present conditions are as follows. Leaves grew thick.

Cucumber
https://www.flickr.com/photos/118875434@N04/13522338223/in/set-72157643180941354

Seabrook Banana
https://www.flickr.com/photos/118875434@N04/13522254745/in/set-72157643180941354

Gino
https://www.flickr.com/photos/118875434@N04/13522258835/in/set-72157643180941354

Pawpaw's Turkey
https://www.flickr.com/photos/118875434@N04/13522263415/in/set-72157643180941354

Narragansett
https://www.flickr.com/photos/118875434@N04/13522359313/in/set-72157643180941354

Smith
https://www.flickr.com/photos/118875434@N04/13522272625/in/set-72157643180941354


cultivar: ( success / live / dead : on March 17th)  ->  ( success / live / dead : on March 31th) 
1. Cucumber                0 / 4 / 0  ->  1 / 3 / 0
2. Seabrook Banana     1 / 3 / 0  ->  1 / 3 / 0
3. Gino                        3 / 1 / 0  ->  3 / 1 / 0
4. Pawpaw's Turkey      2 / 2 / 0  ->  2 / 2 / 0
5. Narragansett            0 / 4 / 0  ->  2 / 2 / 0
6. Smith                      0 / 4 / 0  ->  1 / 3 / 0

Even though all the leaves have fallen, when a scion survives, it seems that a terminal bud sprouts again every 3 or 4 weeks. Thus, as far as a scion survives, it is recommended to wait for sprouting. ( for example: Smith )

Although transplantation is necessary, outside temperature is still low (Today's minimum temperature is 47 degs in F). But it seems that transplantation is possible in next week. I wish them to endure transplant shock.

I am editing the failure examples of graft cutting. Please wait.

Subject: graft cutting Replies: 81
Posted By: mizuyari Views: 5,655
 
Damir-san

In the case of a cutting, leaf dropping is sometimes observed when the scion starts leafing out. At first, leafing occurs as the scion being a part of a tree. But in actuality, the scion is not a part of the tree. It is just a stick. As a consequence, the leaf can not adapt itself to environment. Thus, leaf dropping occurs.

Warm regards,
Hiroshi

Subject: graft cutting Replies: 81
Posted By: mizuyari Views: 5,655
 
Damir-san

Nice to meet you. Thank you.

When the grafting goes well, a green wood grows up, and a leaf rarely falls. In this sense, leaf dropping concerns me. When the grafting does not goes well, growth of the green wood stops, and a scion dries up by the transpiration of the leaf. I think that in order to avoid dying, a scion spontaneously drops leafs. Thus leaf dropping indicates that the grafting does not goes well.

Sometimes a green wood continues growing with dropping minor leafs. I think that the scion drops the leaf which does not fit environment. In this case, I do not mind leaf dropping.

Subject: graft cutting Replies: 81
Posted By: mizuyari Views: 5,655
 
Hi, Francisco

Thank you.

Because there are success and near failure examples, it seems that it can be possible to increase success rates by checking conditions.

I also carried out other graft cuttings on many cultivars. I will introduce a failure example next time.

Hiroshi

Subject: graft cutting Replies: 81
Posted By: mizuyari Views: 5,655
 
Nice to meet you recomer20.

You are welcome.

Graft-cutting was performed to check a propagating method when a scion is valuable, short and thin(? in our case, some scions are thick).

We call this grafting method "Kiritugi (切り接ぎ)" in Japanese. It is easy to put cambium layers together by this method. How do you say "Kiritugi" in English? Veneer grafting?

For example,
kiwi:
http://fruitgrowing.blog24.fc2.com/blog-entry-614.html#end
blueberry:
http://fruitgrowing.blog24.fc2.com/blog-entry-617.html#end

Subject: graft cutting Replies: 81
Posted By: mizuyari Views: 5,655
 
41 days after planting

lower left: Cucumber
lower right: Seabrook Banana
upper left: Gino
upper right: Pawpaw's Turkey

http://www.flickr.com/photos/118875434@N04/13200698633/in/set-72157642452741093

forward: Narragansett
toward: Smith

http://www.flickr.com/photos/118875434@N04/13200573195/in/set-72157642452741093


Criteria of the success or failure

i) probably success: the green wood is larger than the scion
(interchange of nourishment and water is possible between the sicon and the rootstock)

Seabrook Banana:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/118875434@N04/13200895604/in/set-72157642452741093

Gino:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/118875434@N04/13200715833/in/set-72157642452741093

ii) live: growth stops, leaves drop
(interchange of water is possible between the scion and the rootstock)

Smith:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/118875434@N04/13200590685/in/set-72157642452741093

iii) failure: scion dies
(combination between the scion and the rootstock ends in failure)


cultivar( success / live / dead )
1. Cucumber           0 / 4 / 0
2. Gino                   3 / 1 / 0
3. Narragansett       0 / 4 / 0
4. Pawpaw's Turkey  2 / 2 / 0
5. Seabrook Banana 1 / 3 / 0
6. Smith                  0 / 4 / 0


In our city, an average lowest and highest air temperature in mid-March is 42.6F (5.9C) and 58.1F (14.5C), respectively. Temperature is low to take out figs from a chamber. I am going to transplant grafted figs in a pots in April.

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Hi ascpete,

In Japan, when planting fig scions, we usually use 100% Kanuma soil (鹿沼土). The Kanuma soil is also ejectamenta of the volcanoes, pumice and acidulous. The water retentivity of the Kanuma soil is better than the Bora soil. Since shipping expenses of the Kanuma soil from the Kanuma soil-field are high, I used Bora soil.

Kanuma soil:
https://www.google.co.jp/search?q=Kanuma+soil&client=firefox-a&hs=F4r&rls=org.mozilla:ja:official&hl=ja&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=vq0UU4fDEJCclQXYk4CIDg&ved=0CCkQsAQ&biw=1043&bih=864

The 6th picture of this site is an actual example:
http://blog.zige.jp/pastral/kiji/542268.html

The ratio (Coconut Coir : Bora soil =1:1) is the first attempt for me. If I fail, I think about it a lot, and from there I can make a new start. Your following post is food for thought. Thank you.
http://figs4funforum.websitetoolbox.com/post/easy-simple-and-practical-tricks-to-increase-potted-fig-cutting-survival-rates-6719728?pid=1281407982#post1281407982

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Hi thearabicstudent,

Nice to meet you.

I treated according to the instructions of the paper. Since I am a beginner, it takes about 5 minutes to finish grafting (from cutting to taping). A result will become clear in two months. Please wait a little while more.

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Hi ascpete,

Sorry my reply is late.

Soil mix recipe is (Coconut Coir : Bora soil (ボラ土) =1:1).

The Bora soil is ejectamenta of the Mt. Kirishima (in Japan). The Bora soil is like pumice and cheap (20 liters costs about 1 dollar). The water retentivity of the Bora soil is worse than pearlite. Since the Bora soil is acidulous (ph: 5-6), there are few germs, like sphagnum moss. In order to make soil mix acidic, I added the Bora soil. Thus the ratio of Coconut Coir and Bora soil is arbitrary.

https://www.google.co.jp/search?q=%E3%83%9C%E3%83%A9%E5%9C%9F&client=firefox-a&hs=iIi&rls=org.mozilla:ja:official&hl=ja&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=GBsUU8GlKYnwkAXTk4HYDA&ved=0CC0QsAQ

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Hi deerhunter16b,

Thank you. Nice to meet you.

Your rooting method is also interesting. Physical properties of the plant change according to the rooting environment.

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Hi Francisco,

Thanks. But it's just a milestone, not the end of the journey.

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Ampersand

Nice to meet you.

If it is successful, I will keep updating until I harvest fruits.

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26 days after planting

All scions are alive now.
(life / total)
1. Cucumber,         4/4
2. Gino,         4/4
3. Narragansett,     4/4
4. Pawpaw's Turkey,     4/4
5. Seabrook Banana,     4/4
6. Smith        4/4

Today I dug soil and checked the root. The following two pictures are before and after digging soil. The root of some cutting has already grown.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/118875434@N04/12875803785/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/118875434@N04/12875804085/
(Sorry. When I tried to insert photos, the alert 'Sorry, you do not have permission to perform this action', appears.)

The following picture is sprout of Narragansett.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/118875434@N04/12875896683/

It seems that the growth of sprout stopped right now. This indicates that the growth was supported by the stored energy of the scion. If the cambium layers of the scion and rootstock are connected, the growth of sprout start again. Else if, the leafs fall.

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Hi greenfig,

Thank you for posting photos. Amazingly, buds are already breaking. California seems to be warm. I hope that your fig tree grow well.

In my case also, since some scions were thin, the cuttings seemed to fail. In order to increase a survival rate, graft-cuttings were done. I wish that roots appear from the rootstocks.

Since your success became clear two months after the grafting, my results will become clear at the beginning of April.

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Dear greenfig,

Nice to meet you.

I studied a lot from your posts. Thank you.

And thank you for letting we know the current state of grafted fig trees and the reason for success in grafting. I'm looking forward to your photos.

I thought of one thing. I should have sterilized the cuttings with 10% bleach solution, so that various germs do not enter from the cut end.

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milehighgirl

Nice to meet you.

>Would success rates be better if the rootstocks were rooted prior to grafting?

Yes, it would be. If the rootstocks were already rooted, the success rates would seem to become almost 100%. References are as follows. In my case, I am experimenting on whether graft-cutting goes well. If graft-cutting go well, it would reduce a procedure and time to nurse a grafted tree.

Not pregnant but carrying multiples - new grafts
http://figs4funforum.websitetoolbox.com/post/not-pregnant-but-carrying-multiples-new-grafts-6300805

Graft and a duckling
http://figs4funforum.websitetoolbox.com/post/graft-and-a-duckling-6328917

fig-fig bark graft
http://figs4funforum.websitetoolbox.com/post/figfig-bark-graft-6364290

5 cuttings = 10 new starters
http://figs4funforum.websitetoolbox.com/post/5-cuttings-10-new-starters-6101724

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Ekierk

Nice to meet you.

I wish you a success. If I fail, please use our data as negative example.

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Grasa

I should have translated the important parts of the paper. As shown in 第一図(=Figure 1) on the page 77,  the length of the rootstock is about 20-25 cm, and all buds (in this case, 3 buds) are cut off. In my case, some buds were cut off, and the others were not. On the other hand, the length of the scion is about 5 cm with one-node. In my case, most of scions were shorter than 5 cm.

'揚げ' means 'rising (or lifting) something from low position to high position' as well as 'frying'. I think more than 99% Japanese regard '揚げ' as 'frying'. Thus '揚げ接ぎ' is very strange Japanese. Since '接ぎ' means 'grafting', '揚げ接ぎ' means 'after digging up rootstock, grafting scion on the rootstock'.

I have no personal contact with the researchers, and have not visited their laboratory. I am not researcher but wannabe farmer. However, they present their research results on this page, so we can learn from there (Sorry, Japanese only)
http://farc.pref.fukuoka.jp/farc/seika/seika07/sei-mo07.htm
They are studying Figs, Kiwi fruits, Grapes, Oranges, Persimmons and Pears. Last year, I asked them whether I could purchase 'Kibaru'. They turned down my request on the ground of law. They are studying fruits for farmers in Fukuoka Prefecture ( I live in Oita Prefecture. )

Thank you for informing me the sites. Step over style is very popular in Japan and efficient. And Aichi Prefecture is Japan's top producer of fresh figs and the head office of Toyota (automaker) is in Aichi.

Interesting variation of step over style is as follows (Sorry, Japanese only)
http://www.pref.aichi.jp/nogyo-keiei/nogyo-aichi/gijutu_keiei/kaju1303.pdf

Best Regards
mizuyari

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Liza

Nice to meet you.

I will translate a part of original tables. Please feel free to ask if you have any questions.


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table I on the page 77 (performed on 2010. rootstock: Kibaru.  On each column, 20 grafts are performed.)

Toyometuhime     graft-cutting     March 30     100%
                         indoor-grafting  April 2         100%

Houraisi              graft-cutting      March 30    85%
                         indoor-grafting   April 2        80%

first row: cultivar of scion
second row: method
third row: performed date
fourth row: success rate
====================


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table II on the page 78 (performed on 2011. rootstock: Kibaru.  On each column, 20 grafts or cuttings are performed.)

Toyometuhime    graft-cutting      April 8     100%
                        indoor-grafting   April 8     100%
                        cutting              April 8     100%

Masui Dauphine   graft-cutting      April 8     100%
                         indoor-grafting   April 8     100%
                         cutting              April 8     90%

first row: cultivar of scion
second row: method
third row: performed date
fourth row: success rate
====================

on the variety name:
キバル(=Kibaru): rootstock with resistance to some kind of diseases
とよめつひめ(= Toyometuhime): their developed cultivar
蓬莱柿(=houraisi): imported probably from China in 16th century. Fruit weight is about 100 grams. Brix approaches from 15% in summer to 30% in the late fall.
桝井ドーフィン(=Masui Dauphine): most popular cultivar in Japan

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Luke

Nice to meet you.

I learned a lot from this forum. I hope I can repay my debt of gratitude to forum members.

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aphahn

Nice to meet you.

I hope that they will survive and become trees.

I am also interested in cold hardy figs. In Japan, Bonholm's Diamond, Hardy Chicago and Quinta are cultivated.