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Subject: Something you never get tired of seeing Replies: 7
Posted By: chthonical Views: 537
 
I've been sticking mine in open containers of sphagnum moss under a daylight bulb. The sign of success for me is when it begins greening up, as that seems to be the sign that it's putting out roots with my methods. I currently have one cutting putting out leaves in the middle of December.

Subject: How moist is too moist for cuttings in sphagnum moss? Replies: 10
Posted By: chthonical Views: 675
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by DallasFigs
If you can squeeze even a drop of water out of it.. it's too moist.  If fact, if you completely soak it and squeeze out every last drop, it still may be too moist.. but that's how what I do it.

using a bag? or a box?

Using a plastic box. I've been stressing out hoping that at least some of these root. It's my first time dealing with figs, and I've had horrible luck getting any tree cuttings to root and survive in the past. I'm not sure what to really do at this point.

Subject: How moist is too moist for cuttings in sphagnum moss? Replies: 10
Posted By: chthonical Views: 675
 
Yeah. I had it way too wet. I found one of my cuttings rotting, and I'm worried I've doomed them all. Well, there's my first experiment with figs done. I'm hoping that I may get at least one to survive from this mess. I'm going to feel like utter garbage if this is a wash, because someone was nice enough to gift me these.

Subject: How moist is too moist for cuttings in sphagnum moss? Replies: 10
Posted By: chthonical Views: 675
 
Is there any way to gauge this? I'm really sort of worried that I'm destroying my cuttings.

Subject: Long fiber sphagnum moss. Replies: 27
Posted By: chthonical Views: 1,269
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by greenfig
What is the benefit of using the long fiber moss vs the brown peat moss? I have been using the peat and found it works just fine. It is easier for me to control its moisture and I can use a bunch of fresh peat every time since it is dirt cheap. What are the cons?


I have read that living sphagnum maintains an environment unfriendly to mold by shifting the pH to be mildly acidic.

Subject: Long fiber sphagnum moss. Replies: 27
Posted By: chthonical Views: 1,269
 
On the topic of sphagnum moss, here's my current setup for the cuttings I have. I have this in a sealed tote on top of my computer tower to soak up heat. Worried I may have added too much water, though. I also have a few containers I'm trying to get growth from, though I need to really come up with a better way to get some real production going.
sphaggy.jpg


Subject: Long fiber sphagnum moss. Replies: 27
Posted By: chthonical Views: 1,269
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by SoniSoni
no kidding?   I'm on well water, could I grow some? [image]


I want to say yes, but I know that water quality differs from area to area what with minerals and all that.

Subject: Long fiber sphagnum moss. Replies: 27
Posted By: chthonical Views: 1,269
 
I am lucky enough to live right next to a sphagnum bog. I just went out today and pulled a bag for my cuttings, as well as to hopefully culture so I never have to pull anymore from the bog again. The trick with that is you need distilled water to grow it, because sphagnum doesn't take to tap water very well. A very small amount, mind you. I didn't just go in and plunder a bin full or something. I don't see you really avoiding debris unless the sphagnum has been cultured, though. Most is from cordoned bog areas where they allow exploitation.

Subject: Which rooting method do you swear by? Replies: 52
Posted By: chthonical Views: 2,397
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by recomer20
The last few I did, I "sushi rolled" in sphag and newspaper in ziplocs and sat upright in a jar (helps keep the scion from sitting in a pool of condensation) on the water heater--great for small quantities. TIP: if working with sphagmoss, wring it out well until moist and springy--too wet and the cutting will water log and rot. PS> Sorry for the free Chevyman advertising. DOH! 
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How wet is too wet, would you say? What I did was to take a tote container, lay down some potting mix, put down 4 cuttings, then repeat that twice before misting it down. Right now the potting mix is sort of like cake as far as consistency. Damp yet crumbly. Should I be doing more or less water?

Subject: Which rooting method do you swear by? Replies: 52
Posted By: chthonical Views: 2,397
 
Until I can go out to the bog to get some sphagnum moss, I just put them in some light potting mix layered on one another. I can't find anyone selling anything close to me at any reasonable price, so I'll have to improvise.

Subject: Which rooting method do you swear by? Replies: 52
Posted By: chthonical Views: 2,397
 
How long does it take for a fresh cut to callus over? I want to know how long I should wait before putting these in fully, as I cleaned up the original cuts a bit.

Subject: Which rooting method do you swear by? Replies: 52
Posted By: chthonical Views: 2,397
 
Is this analogous to the Root Riot thing you all talk about?

http://www.homedepot.com/p/Viagrow-Super-Plugs-50-Organic-Starter-Plugs-VSSP50/202985173#.UofoUsSsh8E

Subject: Which rooting method do you swear by? Replies: 52
Posted By: chthonical Views: 2,397
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by garden_whisperer
Might have to look into those root riot things


Hmm. Editing my last comment. It's $30 for 100, $20 for 50. Might be something to look into. By volume, if they work, they seem like something that could be worth it.

Subject: Which rooting method do you swear by? Replies: 52
Posted By: chthonical Views: 2,397
 
Does this seem like a good idea, or a bad idea? I butchered a grocery bag into strips, wrapped one around a cutting (this one a willow cutting for the sake of safe testing), secured it using twine with the top and bottom exposed to the air, and then stuffed in moist soil around the length of the cutting that was enclosed before folding and binding it. Does this seem like it could work for figs, or is it a horrendous idea? My logic was based on air layering, and the fact that I don't want to expose the cut areas to potential rot until I really need to.
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Subject: Which rooting method do you swear by? Replies: 52
Posted By: chthonical Views: 2,397
 

In the vein of using what I have immediately available, since my cuttings just got here, would placing fig cuttings directly into a light, airy, peat-rich mix potentially work? I have this potting mix branded as New Era that contains Sphagnum peat moss, humus, sand, composted forest products, horticultural perlite, and ground dolomitic limestone.

Also, how moist should things be?


Subject: Which rooting method do you swear by? Replies: 52
Posted By: chthonical Views: 2,397
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by can_smokva
So far any of the above method including glass jar with water worked for me to produce roots in 1-4 week time depending on the time of the year, quality and variety of the cutting.
After that all of them did really well in large/extra large (star buck) clear cups in 50-70% coarse perlite and 50-30% MG seedling/cutting mix.
The problem occurs about 10-14 days later...
At the stage when:
the secondary roots developed and primary roots are growing up to the "soil" level or all around the cup bottom and with a few leaves developed
just about when "soil" appears to be dry and first watering is needed (all the condensation that used to be visible from day one on the cup walls disappeared),
roots turn brown, I water about 1-2 tablespoon per cup, next day leaves droop, buds turn brown and withdraw.
small flies show up around cups.
cuttings in those cups upon examination had complete bark rot while soil did not appear to be too wet.
Those that survived managed to develop more new white roots beside the brown roots.
All the cups were on the desk under fluorescent light temp 75F plastic tents already removed from cups.
The failure at this stage is from 40% to 80%.
What do I do wrong?
Is browning of the roots normal? How long do roots stay white in colour?

Any response greatly appreciated.

Damir


The small flies sound like fungus gnats. They lay their eggs in moist soil and their maggots eat dead plant matter and roots.

Subject: Which rooting method do you swear by? Replies: 52
Posted By: chthonical Views: 2,397
 
I've been reading up and have found various methods for rooting cuttings. Paper towel, newspaper, bag, sphagnum moss. But I'm curious which method you've found works the best, as I really don't want to bungle things up since this will be my first time dealing with figs.

Subject: Pollination Replies: 22
Posted By: chthonical Views: 1,404
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by gorgi
>>> Seriously...do these wasps carry pollen grains into the figs?  Is that how figs get "Caprified"?

Yes, yes, yes!

Please do some googling about how fig caprification is really done in nature
by a very specialized 'wasp'; often only to one fig species.

Ray Givan refers to fig sex as 'weird sex'.
http://figs4fun.com/links/FigLink006a.pdf

I have only seen the F.carica wasp only once
while visiting my home land in the Med. Sea.
Here is a pic:



Subject: Seeking Hardy Chicago or similar cuttings. Replies: 7
Posted By: chthonical Views: 705
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by garden_whisperer
I have hardy chicago, on of my best figs. It will do ok outside in ground. It can freeze to the ground and come right back to produce a lot of fruit. I don't even protect mine in winter and have had no damage in 5 years in zone 6b illinois. Can't say that about all my figs.


If I can find cuttings I plan to start a few off in containers and then use cuttings from those plants to start what will eventually be the outdoor trees. May experiment with bonsai a bit as well.

Subject: Seeking Hardy Chicago or similar cuttings. Replies: 7
Posted By: chthonical Views: 705
 
I'm looking for cuttings to start my first fig in a container, and due to my location right on the border of 5b and 6a over here in MA I sort of want to play it safe in case I decide to try planting things outside later on. I figured it'd be worth a shot to just ask to see if anyone had any cuttings from a mature Hardy Chicago or a similar variety for trade and/or post. For trade I currently only have seeds for things like pomegranate, goji berry, blueberry, and black krim tomato.


EDIT: Petechanr was nice enough to offer to send me some cuttings to start off with.

Subject: Pollination Replies: 22
Posted By: chthonical Views: 1,404
 
I wonder if fungus gnats could serve the same purpose as fig wasps.

Subject: Free Variety of Cuttings Contest Replies: 19
Posted By: chthonical Views: 969
 
I'm now questioning the common identity of Pennisetia marginata. This is the Wikipedia photo.
Pennisetia_marginata.jpg 

I'm curious if there are multiple subspecies or if there is some sort of dimorphism going on, because while every science and government chart has them with the black end, the one in the image posted has a yellow end (as do some images posted to the identification). Also some differing features. Could be some sort of hybrid, or maybe even a pure mix up of two different bugs. It's interesting. I've noticed Sesia seem to have the yellow end more commonly.

Here's Sesia tibialis.
Sesia_tibialis1.jpg 

Sesia apiformis.
Sesia_apiformis.jpg 

It's definitely showing the behavior, though. I mean, the image is of the thing on a raspberry bush.


Subject: Free Variety of Cuttings Contest Replies: 19
Posted By: chthonical Views: 969
 
Wasp moth?

Subject: --- Looking for Unk.Pastiliere cuttings Replies: 16
Posted By: chthonical Views: 1,017
 
Lucky!

Subject: NY,NJ and Eastern PA Fig Growers: cuttings and plants! Replies: 4
Posted By: chthonical Views: 936
 
So close, and yet so far. Awesome of you to offer, though.

Subject: Looking to start first fig. What makes for a good indoor container fig for 5b/6a, and where can I acquire cuttings? Replies: 4
Posted By: chthonical Views: 465
 
I have recently been thinking about starting up my first fig over here in MA, and I'm trying to find the right match for my desires. I have south-facing windows which let in a lot of light, and so the thought was to keep a container fig which I'd bring in during the winter. So the question comes to what would be the best fig for me. I have been considering Celeste based on how hardy they're supposed to be, but I'm seeking more input. Are there any fruiting figs which take to being inside more than most? Where can I obtain cuttings?