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Subject: Warning re: karub2556 (Precha) Replies: 26
Posted By: abcd Views: 1,409
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by HarveyC
I am not selling a fake, Alex.  As mentioned in my auction, the cuttings for my mother trees came for Bass and that is the only reason Bass would agree to my use of his photos.

My posts about you and your fell scammers was started on January 12, 2015 while "your" question about the use of his photos came to me on January 14, 2015.  You have the order of events reversed.  But you bring up an interesting thing.  The question about my use of Bass's photos on eBay came from Korina-2009 who is based in Pennsylvania.  It now appears, based on your own comment, that you either use her name/address as a fake or you control that eBay account.


And why should I believe your statement? It is only words of old scam bag, nothing much........


And you did not answer the question about multiple Facebook accounts? You use you accounts to manipulate fig international community?
State a clear reason why do you need few accounts?
Because they keep block  you out of forums?

Give some clear answers, stop accusing others.





Subject: Warning re: karub2556 (Precha) Replies: 26
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And you used a picture of Bass figs because you sell a fake and was trying to cover it !!!!!!!!!!!!!

Remember? It was exactly a reason why you start attacking me, because I sent you a massage with a question on eBay "Why are you using somebody else picture?"

Next day you start posting nasty massages about me. Remember?

 

Subject: Warning re: karub2556 (Precha) Replies: 26
Posted By: abcd Views: 1,409
 
May be I can not read, but  you still a fake .................
" Make me an offer" and then mention how much you pay to Bass............... It was very nice to include other member to your greediness ......... And making business agreement with him known to everybody..........
Very smart move.

Subject: Warning re: karub2556 (Precha) Replies: 26
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Yes, we know- you are charging 25% of sale for permission to use your photo-and he  was late with payment!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
So it is NOT about $$$$$$
Ha, ha, ha.............


Subject: Warning re: karub2556 (Precha) Replies: 26
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It is not disagreements - it is because some are very greedy............ and have dirty minds- very fast to accuse and name calling............

Subject: Warning re: karub2556 (Precha) Replies: 26
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Nice work Harvey
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Subject: Warning re: karub2556 (Precha) Replies: 26
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Subject: Figs from Turkey Replies: 225
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You should indicate it on you eBay listing, so your clients  from USA will know and will not have a problem. It will be only fear.
And it was been mention before.

Subject: Saratoga/Chico Strawberry fig Replies: 70
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Not as rare and pretty as mine!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!




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Subject: Jolly Tiger wanted by some of my clients Replies: 14
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Yep, cuttings should be sold.
Anybody who want to make some $$  and sell extra cuttings PM me- I need about 1000 more of different varieties.
Thank you.

Subject: Jolly Tiger wanted by some of my clients Replies: 14
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Jolly Tiger starter plants  wanted . Please PM me.

Subject: Figs from Turkey Replies: 225
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Too bad anybody from USA allowed to buy from Turkey- it is illegal and USDA will visit your garden and probably confiscate all your fig trees.

Subject: Anybody can told me about 13figger,ebatihk? Replies: 105
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Keep your suggestions to yourself, old fella! I did not ask for any!

Subject: Anybody can told me about 13figger,ebatihk? Replies: 105
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About sales- looking for "Jolly Tiger" starters.
Please PM me.

Subject: Jolly Tiger Replies: 4
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Looking for few starter plants of Jolly Tiger".
Please PM me if you have any for sale.
Alex.

Subject: A good looking fig Replies: 31
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Variegated Clown Fig, Mosaic Fig

Ficus aspera

Anybody have this fig ?

Looking for few cuttings or starter plants.

Please PM me.

Subject: A good looking fig Replies: 31
Posted By: abcd Views: 4,137
 
So, indoors only?

Subject: Suspected eBay scammers with F4F ties Replies: 264
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Another member contacted me and informed me of concerns of cuttings he purchased from 77peony which is used by the same person using the svet_vasyl-2008 account (and maybe others).  The paperwork that arrived with cuttings from 77peony had the following notice which seems to be an effort to cover-up discrepancies for mislabeled fig cuttings.

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I guess it was a short variation of:


 


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With regard to variation, when we were at USDA/UC Davis this summer, we took pix of leaves on all the trees, and you have to sort through a lot of leaves on many trees to find what is the most typical shape for that tree. Some trees every leaf is identical, but many have a wide variation. If you have one-lobed leaves and three lobed leaves and 5-lobed leaves on the same tree, is 5-lobes the typical or proper leaf, and all the rest are under- or mal-formed? Is that just the natural variation for that cultivar? As I have watched leaves this season I have wondered if, maybe, all trees were really 7-lobed but not all leaves fully form. But then there are several styles of 7-lobed leaves...    My Vista has some one-lobed leaves, most are 3-lobed, but there are a significant portion that are 5-lobed, and many of the 3-lobed have 2 rudimentary lobes, as if the should have been 5-lobed. Different years make for different balances, so environment has some affect.  I would bet that I could take a one-lobed leaf off of 40-50% of my trees, regardless of what their dominant leaf pattern is.

Here is my Raspberry Latte: If you look carefully, and follow the leaves up the branch, you will see that the early leaves were deeply sculpted  7-lobed leaves, and the later leaves were 1-lobed, or have 5 barely defined lobes. The one branch you see was 7-lobed for half a season and changed to the less sculpted style for the second half of last season, and stayed that way this whole season. Some branches are one style, others are another style.

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These two leaves are off of the same tree, two different branches:

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I know this is an extreme example, but it illustrates the point. I took pix at Davis of some trees that were nearly as radical, and of a Black Mission tree at a friend's collection in Orange County because of this very issue. Some of the branches on his tree absolutely did not look like BM.

My conclusion on leaves is this: They can generally be used to eliminate varieties, or narrow down the possible selections when you are trying to identify an unknown variety, and in some cases are unique enough to narrow it down to a very few choices, but will probably never be a conclusive method of identification. Otherwise, I could take pictures once, and be done with it, but because they change from season to season (leaves and fruit) I keep taking pictures to document and demonstrate the range of what is possible from a given tree - without all the possible range that you would have if you moved the tree to different climates and other conditions. For instance, figs at Davis must be assumed to be caprified. In many cases this greatly enhances or changes the color of the flesh. So when I compare them to figs grown here, often they are not the same. Which one is correct? Both.

Imagine what you drivers license might be like if you hair or skin color changed with latitude. Go from San Diego, on vacation, as a white man with blond hair to North Dakota and become a Latino with red hair. When the Cop in ND stops you and asks for you license, and you give him you CA D/L, he will think you are giving a false ID.

I sent pix of several varieties that I have purchased from Paradise Nursery to the proprietor and she did not recognize them, because they are different in her climate.

I wanted to be able to put everything in a neat little box when I started collecting figs, but I gave up on it a long time ago.



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Subject: Figs 4 Fun Collection cuttings Replies: 69
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Funny.........keep going............do not stop................winner...........

Subject: Figs 4 Fun Collection cuttings Replies: 69
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Funny, funny, funny..................little puppy................

Subject: Figs 4 Fun Collection cuttings Replies: 69
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You are funny!!!!!!!!!!!!

Subject: Figs 4 Fun Collection cuttings Replies: 69
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Rich in NJ 

Please do not fart

Quote:
Originally Posted by RichinNJ
Quote:
Originally Posted by abcd
You did not answer a question!


Rich ,



Holding in Farts Causes Brain

Subject: What else do you grow? Replies: 106
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Looking for cuttings of grape to buy. Please PM me.

Subject: Figs 4 Fun Collection cuttings Replies: 69
Posted By: abcd Views: 4,142
 
Bravo !

Subject: Figs 4 Fun Collection cuttings Replies: 69
Posted By: abcd Views: 4,142
 
The fact is that most of members here advertising their sales on eBay-
including latest one - " Chicago Hardy"- 178 ea.
Any more questions about personal business, which should not be your problem. Get a life, buddy..............

Subject: Figs 4 Fun Collection cuttings Replies: 69
Posted By: abcd Views: 4,142
 
Negronne  $46. WOW .....

Subject: Suspected eBay scammers with F4F ties Replies: 264
Posted By: abcd Views: 17,043
 
Have fun..... Buy..... or should I say- Get a life............

Subject: Suspected eBay scammers with F4F ties Replies: 264
Posted By: abcd Views: 17,043
 
Very funny..........
Still a copycat- one of you.

Subject: Suspected eBay scammers with F4F ties Replies: 264
Posted By: abcd Views: 17,043
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by andreas
abcd you claim to have ordered peloponnisiaka aspra sika and many other greek types with phytosanitary certificate and the cost to you was $5.00 (that is a joke because the certificate it self cost more then youll ever know) but since you paid for it how much was it????
i will not go in to it with you, because it is clearly not worth my time.
however i ask you again and for the last time, and only because you wanted to drag this  out in the forum.
did your supplier show you a picture of the actual fruit?
can you produse a picture of this fruit other then my own?
because if not i have tons of fig firewood outside my door i could sell to you for $1/ cutting.
think of all the profit you would make on ebay!!!



You will be surprised, how many sellers and nurseries want to work with me. Told you – you are not the one and only seller in Greece.  And I am not only into figs. So I can afford to pay for phytosanitary certificate .

 You want me to share all trade secrets with you- probably not.

 By the way if some concerned citizen will report you to USDA selling cuttings to USA , guess how many of your buyers will get visit from USDA- eBay keeps a records for many years.

 It is probably why giorgos-arvanitis

your tween brother on eBay is not shipping to USA anymore.

 

It is his listing:

 

MAYAM BLUE is a Greek Variety that comes from Peloponnese and is know to be extremely rare.  The taste in this fig is very rich with an abundant of seeds and full pulp.  The skins exterior is a purplish blue tone with a thin skin and the pulp has a deep strawberry red color with an abundant of juices.  It has a superb taste of a berry flavor with a rich honey taste to it and very aromatic.  Its leaf has 5 lobes and this fig tree is very resistant and very productive.  It does not need pollination. It has a vintage quality for fresh consumption.

Package includes:  10 Month old bare rooted fig cutting

****Please be advised we only offer combined shipping for the varieties within each weekly bids and we also offer EMS shipping service. You may contact us for the price list. 

It is the buyer’s responsibility to know their countries customs laws , seeds may be restricted from importing to your country or may be charged a country tax. Please check with your customs agency and/ or post office before purchasing. Upon purchasing this item Buyer accepts the risk of item being confiscated and/or destroyed by customs and Seller will not be held liable for this.

 

Here is yours:

TSELIGATOis a very rare and hard to find ancient Greek variety found in peloponnisos part of Greece that makes a very rich and flavorful fig.  It drips honey from the eye when it is ready and ripe.  It has a bright red strawberry pulp full of juices.  The taste is complex, extremely sweet and juicy.  It has a 5 lobed leaf with and is a very steady and productive tree.  It is harvested August-September.  This fig does not require pollination.

Package will include: 2 fresh cuttings 7”- 8” long

It is the buyer’s responsibility to know their countries customs laws, cuttings or trees may be restricted from importing to your country or may be charged a country tax. Please check with your customs agency and/ or post office before purchasing. Upon purchasing this item Buyer accepts the risk of item being confiscated and/or destroyed by customs and Seller will not be held liable for this

 

 

Almost identical, again, who is a copycat?


Subject: Suspected eBay scammers with F4F ties Replies: 264
Posted By: abcd Views: 17,043
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by andreas
hello everyone.
i have to go with Harvey on this one.
this abcd person wanted me to sell him some cuttings.
i caught him lying to me... and that was that!!!



You using a word “liar” very easy. What did not you believe in our conversation? Let me guess…

Fact that I have a supplier in Greece?

 You do believe that you one and only?

Guess what – it is another seller on eBay right now- listings are identical – word by word. Who is a “copycat”, you or him?

 By the way I got many, many emails, asking me about my supplier contact information after my post about importing fig cuttings from Greece.

 And I did pay $ 5 each, even if you do not want to believe it, it is still a fact. Tell me, how long 3 words “rare fig variety” will be used in the same sentence if I will spread his contact information around.

We all want to be exclusive owners of rare variety, but everybody entitled to” change of heart” situation.  






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Subject: Kathleen's Black cuttings - Gone. Replies: 12
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