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Subject: Think I have to pot up now! Or not? Replies: 25
Posted By: Porfirio Views: 204
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by TorontoJoe
Tomorrow I search for 1 gallon pots in January. Wish me luck!

Hi TorontoJoe
Me too I have them under 4 f40 lights. Mine I don't up pot them before Marsh otherwise they start growing faster and won't have not enough space under the lights.
Even if roots get tangled a bit they will have hardened by then and break less when up potting even if I spread them a bit.
Happy New Year.
Rio [DSCF1794]  [DSCF1795] 

Subject: Heartfelt Thank You To A Forum Member Replies: 6
Posted By: Porfirio Views: 205
 
There is a lot  of good people working just to have other members love figs as much as they do.
But  allways  get surprised by their generosity without interest.
God bless them all for their kindness.

Subject: a special thank you to drivewayfarmer Replies: 7
Posted By: Porfirio Views: 221
 
Roger have very Happy holydays and, you are going to see tat figs are very rewarding on a life of a veteran darer.
Enjoy them fully and they will reward you well. 
Thanks you Kerry for spreading the fever.
Bless.


Subject: Merry Christmas to all!! Replies: 32
Posted By: Porfirio Views: 335
 
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to everyone.
And thank you all for sharing your fig experiences with everybody.
Happiness to all.

Subject: When Do Figs Become Ever-Hardy in Zone 6 Replies: 56
Posted By: Porfirio Views: 766
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by SCfigFanatic
If you can grow fig trees in zone 5, good for you!
I have 73 in ground trees.
Tired of discussing it.

Doug


Sorry Doug
No showing off or offence intended.
Best wishes

Subject: When Do Figs Become Ever-Hardy in Zone 6 Replies: 56
Posted By: Porfirio Views: 766
 
Me too I agree with Joe D.
I leave on zone 5 
Most of my figs stay outside all winter covered with a  excavator's type  geotextile and a maximum of 3 inches of dirt on top of the textile.
Here the frost line reaches around 3 and a ½
feet deep. They pass the winter season fine even if they frozen dead as long they dont get the above ground wind .
What kills them the most are the dissecating winds that freeze burn them.  
If they are covered like mine they go trough winter  fine.

Subject: Using Ethepon for early fig maturity! Replies: 10
Posted By: Porfirio Views: 231
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by VeryNew2Figs
Another reason to grow your own. 

You are wright.
It is impossible to buy something that have not been tampered with!
The worst of it is the fact that, they don't put any caution tickets on the product.


Subject: Thanksgiving Replies: 28
Posted By: Porfirio Views: 278
 
May everyone rejoice this Thanksgiving holiday.
Drive safe!

Subject: Dauphine Replies: 9
Posted By: Porfirio Views: 211
 
Hi jdsfrance
Thank you for the imput.
When they will fruit, I will post pics of the leaves and fruit to compare with yours.
I'm convinced it's a St Pedro type because,the fruits this year fell off even though the small tree was growing nicely and going full blast.
Usually my other figs are green until they start swelling, the dauphine main crop ones had a red tinge to them even if they were small.
As you can see ,even if they are small they came out with a redish color.
This is a  photo from this summer
Will post un update on it next season.

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 These are the leaves

Subject: Dauphine Replies: 9
Posted By: Porfirio Views: 211
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by rayrose
Dauphine is not a San Pedro type. it bears two crops.

Yes it does but the way I understood it, the main crop needs a wasp and I do not have it here.
Only the breba make it I was told.

Subject: Dauphine Replies: 9
Posted By: Porfirio Views: 211
 
Thank you for the answer rcantor.
It is clear now.

Subject: Dauphine Replies: 9
Posted By: Porfirio Views: 211
 
Thanks Richie.
Is CDDG a St Pedro type like Dauphine or is it a common type?

Subject: Dauphine Replies: 9
Posted By: Porfirio Views: 211
 
Hi everybody
I have a dauphine hibernating with 3 figs pea size on this years wood.
Do you know if I should break off or, if I leave them alone will they become breba on the branches next season? 
Thank you for the suggestions.


Subject: Started Cuttings... Replies: 3
Posted By: Porfirio Views: 122
 
Great assortment of cuttings, good luck with them.
Hope they all root for you.
The way you're organized to root them they sure are going to do well.


Subject: I think I might be at capacity Replies: 5
Posted By: Porfirio Views: 255
 
Congratulations  paolo.
Glad to see that you got them. From what you say and with the trunks that big, you should be able to get a lot of fruit from them next season.
Very happy for you.

Subject: Rooting cuttings in pan vs 3 cup system Replies: 5
Posted By: Porfirio Views: 233
 
Hi Mike 
The one  you get with roots on every node I woud cut it between the nodes and pot every piece on it's own. Every piece should give you a new plant.
Another way would be to lay the whole piece in the pot  but,you might get one shoot per node.
Hope it helps.

Subject: Moses Fig? Is this a Scam Replies: 15
Posted By: Porfirio Views: 385
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by tsparozi
I can almost guarantee that about a week after the first men set foot on Mars, Dausername1 and his brethren will have the first Mars Figs auction going on eBay....


I agree with you 100%.
Good deduction. I didn't think about that one.

Subject: Moses Fig? Is this a Scam Replies: 15
Posted By: Porfirio Views: 385
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by macmike
I thought this was interesting. This is supposedly a fig that came from the Jordan area where Moses struck the Rock in the Book of Numbers instead of spoke to it. Numbers 20. I wonder what kind of fig it would be? I wonder when someone is going to come up with the fig that Adam and Eve used for clothing? Sounds like a scam to me what do you think?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Fig-tree-found-near-Moses-Spring-Jordan-3-cuttings-/222292695879?hash=item33c1ad5b47:g:888AAOSwFdtX0EZh


I went to school with a guy that knew Moses and he told me that Moses did not like figs he preferred dates.


Subject: Moses Fig? Is this a Scam Replies: 15
Posted By: Porfirio Views: 385
 
Some people have nice ways of using mystical advertisings to lure into buying. 
I'm sorry I dont now the seller but, I've read some observations from other members that are not very reassuring.
Besides that if, the fig was found on that side of the world, it probably would not be of interest to me because, I  wouldn't have a wasp and it does not say if you need it. 
Nothing is clear except it comes from there if it is true.
A lot more explanation is needed if we want to cultivate it.
The type of fig ,common, st.pedro, smyrna or take your chance.
Good luck Dausername1.

 



Subject: trade/swap or sell Replies: 4
Posted By: Porfirio Views: 398
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by OttawanZ5
Good luck with trades.
Winter is already here. Six cm of snow came yesterday afternoon when I was in the process of moving plants inside. I was afraid of this. Now  I have to wait a few days for a better weather. 


Hi OttawanZ5
As my weather is quite equivalent to yours, do you cut your leaves before taking them in or do you just let them fall by themselves?
Thanks


Subject: Panachee Replies: 15
Posted By: Porfirio Views: 313
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Figluvah
I have a Panachee coming.


Ain't she purrrty

Yesss. Beautifull
Imagine it with 2-3 more days  how syruppy it would look.


Subject: trenching Replies: 23
Posted By: Porfirio Views: 320
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by chucklikestofish
~actually i must have something wrong ,maybe it's not called trenching ?? i am talking about laying a tree over that is planted in ground,into a ditch covered with wood and dirt on top.cutting the far side half way around of the roots so i can lay it over,i saw posts somewhere of the older italian fig growers doing this method,somebody help me understand and how it's done , please .~i don't mean potted plants in a trench since all mine go into a fig hut i made ,and they all wintered excellent in there two winters now ~

Yes you can do it that way but, the old people ad only one loved tree they loved and wanted to save.
 We have multiple strains we want to keep so it's impossibe to do the same.
Unless you have a number of acres to grow them and a tractor with a shovel to do the job.

Subject: Your Winter Grow Room Setup Replies: 32
Posted By: Porfirio Views: 689
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by KK
Shop lights (fluorescents) need to be within inches from the leaf canopy.

Yes usually 1 inch up

Subject: trenching Replies: 23
Posted By: Porfirio Views: 320
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by DomGardens
Could you guys explain trenching, thanks

Dom,trenching is a groove in the ground deep  enough  so your  pots can fill in layed down.

Subject: trenching Replies: 23
Posted By: Porfirio Views: 320
 
The  ones I bring inside the cold room for the winter ,I water the pots heavy , let them drip for 2 days, then put them in a garbage bag with the top of the bag twisted around the  stem and taped so it does not unroll and loose water.
It will keep the moisture in the soil all winter long, no need for rewatering.No worrying about them getting thirst starved.
I had them pass the 6 months of winter whithout a drop of extra water. From November to April. In marsh I  allways open the tape and stick a finger in the soil to make sure it's still humid. Never had to re-water it's ok all the time.
The extra plants I have from the same strain or I can spare.
I leave them burried outside as guinea pigs giving me the knowlege how to hibernate safely the strains I dont want to loose.

Subject: trenching Replies: 23
Posted By: Porfirio Views: 320
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by pitangadiego
It has been done for 100 years and more. You still have to insulate the soil so it doesn't freeze.

I leave on Zone 5
I trench my figs and they allways have passed the winter fine even frozen.
Even if they freeze Hard. Roots and all !
Open one end of the protection on april so it aerates and  dont make mold. Even if it freezes and melts they will keep fine.
Figs are very tough if you cut off the things that harm them.
This year I have some extra plants so I'm trying a new method.
Have a small trench 1 foot deep, put a layer of geo textile cloth excavator's grade,lay the pots in, wrap the textile over and put  1 inch of dirt on top. No plywood, they are hard to stock until next hibernation
I will post pictures and results .
Never tested this before but I tink this will work too.
The ones I have wintered before 5 years with plywood on and 1 inch of soil on top have allways passed the winter fine.
I will give you news.
I make the trench in late october before freezing, wait until all the figs loose their leaves and figlets, when temps start to be steady   freezing lay the pots down branches tightened together to ocuppy less space. cover them and wait until spring.
Works fine, believe me.
It works.



Subject: Sallee Fig Trees Replies: 26
Posted By: Porfirio Views: 855
 
Anything on advertising for sale that is not more clear than that I would forget it.
When you sell something you have the obligation to describe what your selling with the more details possible including the price.
Just a tought

Subject: Late chip bud grafting - looking good Replies: 2
Posted By: Porfirio Views: 127
 
Jaime the grafts look good.
 Wish they take. Let us know late in november how they look.
Waiting to see the results; with less light long days it might take a bit slower to heal.
Good luck.


Subject: Freeze Watch - NJ and PA Folks Replies: 4
Posted By: Porfirio Views: 186
 
Hi Dom
The first freezes are my best fiends.
They harden the end of year gowth wood, make the leaves leave the mother tree. and induce dormance.
Here zone 5 I allways let the plants outside with 1st frosts so when I hibernate them they are hardened and at sleeping stage,the last leaves that didn't fall by themselves I give them a litle push to strip them from the branches. 
It works good for me.



Subject: JON. DO WE NEED TO DELETE OLD PICS .......... Replies: 24
Posted By: Porfirio Views: 538
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by figpig_66
Yes its a great idea. If everyone gave 5 dollers a month would it fix things ??

Good question Mr Boni.
Only our WEBMASTER can answer that one.



Subject: JON. DO WE NEED TO DELETE OLD PICS .......... Replies: 24
Posted By: Porfirio Views: 538
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by CliffH
If anyone wants to use the Quote option, you can always delete any part that you don't want to repeat. Like the pictures. I also think this is a good idea.

I was just saying that because I saw  messages with double listings many times.
 It was just a way to make people ponder on the subject.


Subject: JON. DO WE NEED TO DELETE OLD PICS .......... Replies: 24
Posted By: Porfirio Views: 538
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by figpig_66
If it says we have exceeded our limit. If we delete old pics,will it help


It's a good idea  but, I,m afraid we probably would loose a lot of good stored information  allthough when is necessary?!...
One thing we can do on our side of the fence would be, not to reply with quote to the messages with pictures or videos, that way we would not double the pictures nor videos that were posted allready. 
Just answer the posting adressing the user by the username or name.
Just my opinion for what it is worth.
Sorry for intervening. 

Subject: wintering figs zone 5 Replies: 14
Posted By: Porfirio Views: 300
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by VeryNew2Figs
How cold does it get in the winter for you guys?

Here usually we get cold peaks down to -17 F°-28 C°  not counting the wind effect.
But the average temperature for the winter

2016

MonthMaximumAverageMinimum
oct. 201523,5 °C7,8 °C-4,9 °C
nov. 201519,5 °C4,3 °C-10,1 °C
déc. 201516,9 °C1,7 °C-12,1 °C
janu. 20167,7 °C-6,4 °C-21,2 °C
fébr. 20168,6 °C-6,2 °C-27,6 °C=-17.68°F
mars 201616,5 °C-0,1 °C-18,8 °C
apr. 201622,0 °C4,0 °C-10,0 °C
may 201631,7 °C14,5 °C1,1 °C
june 201632,9 °C19,3 °C7,9 °C
july. 201633,7 °C22,0 °C11,8 °C
augu 201633,8 °C22,7 °C12,8 °C
sept. 201629,5 °C17,5 °C4,3 °C
oct. 201625,0 °C12,5 °C0,7 °C
 You get an idea how harsh it can be.
Hope it helps.
 

Subject: wintering figs zone 5 Replies: 14
Posted By: Porfirio Views: 300
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by zone5figger
How deep do you dif your,trench?

Just enough to  have  the layed pots and branchs let the plywood  lay on top without forcing down on them.

Subject: wintering figs zone 5 Replies: 14
Posted By: Porfirio Views: 300
 
Hi everybody.
When I winter my figs outside here in zone 5, I will make a trench in the garden and lay the potted trees, branches tighted close together, plywood on top,snow does the rest.
Never loosed a fig tree yet. In spring ( End of april), I open the ends to let in air  so they dont get mold. When temps warm in late may I raise them up.
Do you guys have another methode that works well for you? New ways of wintering welcome.
Thanks cold growers.

Subject: ID help please - dark fig with yellow flesh Replies: 29
Posted By: Porfirio Views: 649
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by lampo
Hello Porfirio,

It  could be as you say ! who knows ?
Being so small I wondered how this country has such a great variety!
I am in the south and the fruit here is distinct from their equivalents in the Center and up North!

This link guides you to a number of fig varieties as grown in the Center
http://www.iniav.pt/fotos/editor2/folheto_colecao_figueira.pdf
There you see Milheira Branca as a biferous fig but no mentioning of Milheira Preta

Let's hope Jaime Sacadura chimes in and tells us what he thinks
Jaime grows his figs in the Center Portugal and I am sure he will bring in some light.

BTW, the other light pulp fig (straw color)  I mentioned to FigFan is 'São Luis', widespread in the South (Algarve) in old times but no longer... in fact it is almost extinct.
People would use it for drying mainly (a sugar bomb).

Are your roots here ?

Francisco
Portugal

Yes  i was born in Pederneira,Freguesia de Urqueira , Concelho, Vila Nova de Ourém.

Subject: ID help please - dark fig with yellow flesh Replies: 29
Posted By: Porfirio Views: 649
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by lampo


Hello FigFan !

Thanks for showing your black-light colored pulp fig.
These figs are not very common.
There are at least two of those around here - A Common  and a Smyrna .

Here the Smyrna type, described on this old  topic ...

http://figs4funforum.websitetoolbox.com/post/preto-de-porches-6471402?highlight=porches&pid=1279088038

Have also pictures of the Common type but, given the ongoing restrictions cannot post

Where do you grow your figs ?.. America ?

Francisco
Portugal



Hi Francisco
When I was a young kid my father had a fig tree they called Milheira prêta black fig and  the isnside was clear yellow.
Huge tree canopy 10 m diameter, can,t see well from the pictures but the fig I'm talking about was a litle more piriforme.
It was a uniferous fig
Could this be the same fig?

Subject: Grafting Replies: 34
Posted By: Porfirio Views: 618
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by venturabananas
Don't graft figs during dormancy.  Bud break or full growth are fine.  At least that has been my experience.

Probably any technique will work.  Whip or whip and tongue, and bark grafts have worked best for me.  If I have a stump to graft to, bark graft, if I have a smaller branch, whip/whip&tongue.  One of my bark grafts put on about 8 feet of growth this year before I tip-pruned it. Crazy.


Mark
 thanks for the information on the best grafting time.
That was one of my big concerns.
 If, the grafting is done in the right time of the year,the graft should heal faster and better (IMHO).
Best wishes to you.


Subject: Chicago Hardy - one outstanding fig Replies: 23
Posted By: Porfirio Views: 926
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by chucklikestofish
~i agree,but keep an eye open it most likely is in canada somewhere ~!

I will look on line to see if I can find it on may side. 
thank you chulck

Subject: Chicago Hardy - one outstanding fig Replies: 23
Posted By: Porfirio Views: 926
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by chucklikestofish
~hi, chicago hardy is a good tree i have a couple but i have a tree called italian letizia,here in zone 6b it is a better tree than my c-h's,now burpee nursery in the state of pa. in usa sells it for i believe 16.95 worth every penny,i love it the figs are delicious and it out does the h-c for hardiness,i have them planted side by side ,i over protected both and they both rotted back to the ground the letizia is 6' tall while the c-h is about 48" tall the letizia had about 35 figs ,while the h-c had about 12,so wanted to give you a heads up,i believe it would do really well in zone 5 in canada,~http://www.burpee.com/fruit/figs/fig-letizia-22275.html


Thak you for the tip Chuck.
I will keep orders and trades on this side of the border,unfotunately I have experienced negative decisions with customs. Even with the Phytosanitary certificate.
Arbitrary decision from the customs officer that processed the parcel at the time.
I will take no more chances.
When you pay for trees and get nothing at home allthough it is legit with the Phyt, cert, except a letter from costums.
It becames quite expensive at the end. 
Thank you for the kind effort nevertheless

Subject: Chicago Hardy - one outstanding fig Replies: 23
Posted By: Porfirio Views: 926
 
I ordered some cuttings last year of the3 cuttings I got of CH only one rooted and struggled with FMV in spring, the Good Lord was good with us (Long summer). 
It now is 3 Feet high with 2 main braches and no signs of FMV.
Hope it produces next season.
By the testemony and pictures that I see from members here, my expectations from this little darling are big.
Let's hope for the best and, congratulations to the people who are enjoying them allready.
By the way chuck nice specimen you show on that pic.

Subject: Grafting Replies: 34
Posted By: Porfirio Views: 618
 
Amazing
I will stop breaking my head with grafting technics right now!
Whatever will be the results on my grafting odissey.
It will be a great learning experience .

Subject: Grafting Replies: 34
Posted By: Porfirio Views: 618
 
I'm amazed Francisco .
Learning somethinng every day,nice way of going at it.well explained too.
Thank you for the effort aplied on the subject,much apreciated.
Wis you the best

Subject: Grafting Replies: 34
Posted By: Porfirio Views: 618
 
And thank you everybody for the usefull coments.
Best wishes to you all

Subject: Grafting Replies: 34
Posted By: Porfirio Views: 618
 
Hi Francisco.
The man has the odes on his side, well estabillished inground trees. 
Here the trees are in pots and overwinter for 6 full months.
It is safe to assume they come out of dormancy in a less than ideal shape so, it is hard to decide to take chances like that.
The grafts could take but, if not well aligned, I guess the healing process would not take place completly  before the end of the short season.
I might try it on one graft though.

 

Subject: Grafting Replies: 34
Posted By: Porfirio Views: 618
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jsacadura
You're welcome.

If you adapt to your region and protect well your attempts you should be fine. 

As i said before, I've learned that important lesson the hard way. Then i saw a video of a guy in Palestine doing one of the worst grafting jobs i ever saw (rough cuts, poor alignment of cambium, etc), but he protected his fig grafts like i never did. It's probably the most important part of the success of grafting figs.

Here's the video - Grafting figs in Palestine

Best of luck for your grafts.



Thank you Jaime
I Had seen that video before, I didn't save the video for my files to use exactly for the reasons you mention;"(rough cuts, poor alignment of cambium, etc)" .
I would be afraid to make slits that long in the small trees  we have in cold climate zones.
If they failed it would set back fruiting probably another year or two.
I would tather put all hances on my side making the grafts better as possible.

Subject: Look Up, Top of this page. Replies: 2
Posted By: Porfirio Views: 119
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Garlic_Mike
Ok,

Overly enamored with figs.

Having the opportunity to try several types with a wide range of flavors has just made it worse!

Thanx,,,, again.

Sooo,..., what is the fig on the top of the page our friend has, and the last pic with the drip on the end?

Pitangadiego......!  Look what you started! lol

The support group for this disease is no help for the cure.

I am going to start blaming this on genetics.

                                                                         Thanx, Mike


Nice   testemony and it's true .
Amen to that.




Subject: Grafting Replies: 34
Posted By: Porfirio Views: 618
 
Thank you Jaime
Nice job and it sure is good to see the result,s gives me confidence to try it your ways.
Allthough the season here is different I can manage to calculate the difference so it is about the same equivalence.
I'm confident it will work with all the information provided by you.
Thank you again.
Best wishes

Subject: Bourjasotte Noire - 2016 Replies: 24
Posted By: Porfirio Views: 731
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by tylerj
Thanks guys... it definitely worth the extra effort to get them to ripen in my zone. And I should clarify... its 6' tall including the 20 gallon pot lol... I guess the plant itself is only about 4' ;)


Very nice fig looks good.
Sometimes just 3 or 4 days more on the branch  you would be surprised how more  sweeter and flavorfull it becomes.
Congratulations 


Subject: Grafting Replies: 34
Posted By: Porfirio Views: 618
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by toisanwu
Hi Rio,

I did 5 t-buding grafting using cuttings I got from the good folks on this forum.  The t-buds came from the cuttings I got from the good folks on this forum (couple of months old, stored in the frig).  The root stocks were: 1) a good size fig tree I got from Ottawan (early violet, but not so early for producing figs apparently) and 2) a mature fig tree grown from seed.  I did my grafting early April.  Unfortunately none took.  I never saw any t-buds showed any sign of life.  They failed perhaps because the rootstocks were yet actively growing.

At the same time, I also did six whip and tongue grafting of Asian pears (cutting also stored for couple of months in the frig prior) on dormant rootstocks.  They all took and have been quite thriving (except one, which I mowed over with a lawn mower:( ).

BTW, this was my first grafting exercise.  I will try tongue and whip on the figs again come next spring.

Good luck on your grafting and please update on your progress later.


Thank you for the imput Bill.
It will be my first attempt too with figs come spring.
But I will try to take the scions strait from the plants I want to multiply just before they start braking bud in spring.
The latex sap will be less prone to drawn the graft too.
I suppose.
That way I know that the buds on the scion are well formed and ready to grow.
Will post the outcome.