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Subject: This is so strange. Roots on the wrong end Replies: 23
Posted By: greenman62 Views: 389
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by torontofig


not upside down. just lay the current cutting with the cup horizontal, add another cup on the other side with soil and bury the roots in the soil. let the 2 ends to grow roots. :) then cut it into 2 when you find both has nice roots.

actually when you bury the roots in the soil, the roots will get fertilizer in the soil, and the cutting grows better than in the air. the energy will pass to the other end, helping it root fast.  Just a thought.


I had success once to have 2 trees from a Hardy Chicago cutting. The cutting was long and I wanted to cut into two but didn't do at the beginning. later it got roots in two end :)







i got a bunch of free un-named cuttings recently
a lot of them, huge tree cut down.

I took a 18 inch long bit and stuck it in the ground
at a 45 degree angle.
There must be 6 or 7 nodes underground at least.
i did 3 of these
cant wait to see what i get ... LOL

i actually did this once before with a 10 inch cuttings
buried at 45 degrees
it produced roots at 2 or 3 spots
and top growth at 2 different spots.
i could have cut it in 1/2, but left it in ground as is.

i do the same with tomato
i take the starts out the pot (when about a foot+ tall),
and put them in ground much deeper than the original soil line.
cutting off leaves etc...
i use a 45 deg angle 
Toms dont usually sprout from under the ground
and the roots stay near the surface,
but still at slightly different levels for soil moisture.
they seem to like this best. Though,
it can delay them sprouting new growth a bit.

Subject: Factors that affect the size/amount of figs Replies: 13
Posted By: greenman62 Views: 489
 
Sun soil and water.

Personally, i hate using any chemicals, including fertilizer.
I use molasses and fish emulsion.
i also use compost, worm castings, diatomaceous earth, coffee grounds.

i added about 3 inches of grass and weed mulch , then,
about a month later, i added 3 inches of leaf mulch (several species)
before winter.
i look under all that mulch, and i see LIFE.
i see springtails, worms, lizards, spiders and everything is moving and alive.
all those critters create a waste stream....
that IS fertilizer.

I would invest in a soil+PH test before using a chemical fertilizer.
but, thats just me.
some soils can be high in certain minerals like calcium
or, even potash.
if you add more, you risk locking out the ability of the plant to take up other nutrients.

some plants have higher demands than others.
banana, papaya, fig...
these grow faster, and need more readily available nutrients.
Maybe i am lucky, but i can grow all of these with very little changes in my soil
but, then i have worked on my soil for a couple of years
plant diversity, natural mulches can increase soil fertility.

grow some comfrey and use that as a natural mulch

Subject: OT Pomegranate Harvest Replies: 18
Posted By: greenman62 Views: 437
 
I am in New Orleans.
al;so zone 9b, but we had a mild winter.
i have 2 small trees. (wonderful seedlings)
one has never produced
the other is in a container, but it quickly found its way into the ground
and now probably has a lot more roots in the ground, then in the pot.
it fruited well 2 years, but nothing at all this last year.
neither gave me even 1 flower.
i think this past winter was too mild.

ohjustaguy 
i could trade you some un-named fig cuttings, Black Mission cuttings, or, a guava seedling
for some Sharp Velvet, Desertyni or Parfianka ?
i might try and lookup chill hours for them, unless you know them offhand ?

Subject: fruit still holding on ? Replies: 2
Posted By: greenman62 Views: 95
 


So,
its been a pretty warm "winter"
we actually only had 1 cold snap, with temps into the 40s.
and then only for a few days.
its now warming up again, and is supposed to be in the mid 70s
(mid 60s at night)
for the next few days.

i still have fruit on 1 tree.
one of them was semi-soft, and came off in my hand
it tasted terrible, but, im sure it wasnt ripe yet anyway.

i am wondering if those fruit will ever ripen ?
should i remove them and add to the compost ?

 


 [figz_Dec_fruit] 


Subject: End of the year do's and don't list Replies: 7
Posted By: greenman62 Views: 380
 
aomeone had cut down a large fig tree (with some fruit on it!)
near my house, so i took a large branch with several smaller branches coming off of it.
the largest bit must have been close to 2 inches across.
i got about 10 cuttings. about 3 of them are rally large.

also, i have to trim back my Black Mission, Celeste, and another with no ID
but very productive.

i am sure i will have close to 30 cuttings when its said and done.
once they root i will use them to trade
or just give away to neighbors and friends.

Subject: Cuttings Sale. All prices reduced. Replies: 58
Posted By: greenman62 Views: 3,107
 

Bill
i tried contacting you through your forum ID to place an order...
have not received an email back
(i realize the holidays etc...)
just wanted to make sure you got the info

thanks
Brad
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Quote:
Originally Posted by saxonfig
Once again I have a variety of cuttings for sale this season. My list of varieties has grown a bit. I will be adding a few others from now until the end of January.

Also, I should have a simple website up soon. Once that's up & running I will list all my available cuttings on there from that time on. As long as it's alright with Jon, I will make that link available here. It would also only make sense to refer visitors to my site to come here to learn more about delicious figs :-).

For now, here's what's available at this time. Prices range from $3 to $10 per cutting depending on variety, rarity, & other factors.:

$3.00 cuttings:
- Unknown Green German (Don't recall where I got this one. No ripe fruit yet but it was loaded with unripe figlets at end of season this year). 
- Violetta or Strawberry Verte (Got tag mixed up & was unable to narrow it down between the two. It is one or the other though. Waiting for fruit to find out which).

$5.00 Cuttings:
- Brunswick (Very cold hardy. Wood seems to survive brief temps into the single digits. Unfortunately ants in KY love this one :-/. )
- Danny's Delight
- Hardy Chicago
- Unknown Fig From Owensboro, KY (Similar to HC but consistently has even better flavor)
- Violette de Bordeaux (Great variety worth more than this but offered here due to it being quite common within the fig community)
- Yellow Long Neck

$7.00 Varieties:
- UCD 143-36/Emerald Strawberry
- GM 25 (Produced a single fruit one season but fruit dropped before ripening. Could need pollination. Just not yet determined)
- GM 125-C (Still unproven in my orchard) (Sorry this variety is no longer available. According to the source, 125-C turned out to be a Caprifig.)
- Martin's Unknown Black (Very large black fig. Produced many ripe figs for me this season in spite of sooo much rain all summer)
- Native de Argentile (Really great tasting fig)
- Nero 600m
- Ronde de Bordeaux

$8.00 Varieties:
- Abebereria
- Black Zadar (BC)
- JH Adriatic
- Longue d' Aout (What a great fig. Produced many high quality ripe fruit for me in spite of all the rain. Will propagate multiples of this one :-))
- Troiano Calabrese (High quality green fig from Italy. Amber flesh. Large and super sweet. One of Mario's top 3 figs. He wouldn't have brought from home if it wasn't a good one ;-) ).
- Vesuviana Bianca (Comes from base of Mt. Vesuvius. Very unique leaf shape/pattern)
- Violet Sepor   

$10.00 Cuttings:
- GM 175 (Delicious purple beauty. No ripe fruit this year because of the rain but last year they were awesome! Will likely do best in dryer summers)
- Preto (One of the great figs & one of my personal favorites)
- Violette de Sollies (High quality french queen)
- Scott's Yellow (This is allegedly one of the un-released LSU varieties. Mine was loaded with green fruit this year but didn't have time to ripen - Rain! I received mine from Dan a few years ago. This variety was discussed here: http://figs4funforum.websitetoolbox.com/post/lsu-scotts-yellow-5384364?pid=1269301831
And here: http://figs4funforum.websitetoolbox.com/post/scotts-yellow-5412411?pid=1269535426

US shipping only.

Shipping charges:
1-9 cuttings = $3
10-20 cuttings = $5
21 or more pieces shipping will be fixed at $10.00

Many of these varieties will fill only a couple orders and will be gone for the season due to limited material. While others will be available for months. I will be adding more varieties as time goes on.

If you would like additional info on some of the varieties please do a search before contacting me. I'll help if/when I have time but I will, no doubt, be quite busy filling orders.

As the season goes on I will also try to get some new pics & info posted here on some of the varieties listed above. I took a few pics of some of these this past summer & fall.

While I do have a wide range of cutting diameters available, many are in the 1-1 1/2 inch range. If you would prefer smaller cuttings please specify when you contact me. Otherwise, I will send sizes randomly & you may get some big ones. If you want cuttings specifically for grafting be sure to let me know the size range you would prefer. I will try to accommodate when possible.

99% of my cuttings are 8 to 9" in length. When making cuts I insure that all pieces have at least 3 nodes per cutting. The vast majority have more than 3 nodes per piece. This is an especially important consideration when buying material for grafting. More nodes generally mean more potential trees out of each cutting. 

Please email me with your order requests. My PM will be turned off. In some cases it may take me awhile to get back to you. Be patient, I will respond in time.

 

Subject: How and when to prune in the South ? Replies: 0
Posted By: greenman62 Views: 74
 
My fig trees (all still young) still have leaves on them
and figs in some cases.

I am wondering how and when to prune ?

I kinda want to keep these compact.
can i cut them 3ft  above ground ?
Especially the Black Mission i have , which i hear will get rather large later...
i want to try and keep in small as possible for now, and also 
so i wont have to radically cut it back 3 years from now ...

[black_miss_fig] 
-


Also, one by my driveway...
thinking about removing the branch which is closest to the drive,
and cutting the rest of it to 4ft ?


[fig_fro] 
-

and this one... (told probably Celeste ?)
cutting the branch to the left, about 2ft and leaving the ones near the fence as tall as possible for now.
The ones in the middle cutting about 1ft off them ?

and do i prune off the smaller wood /short secondary branches ?
- cut them off completely ??


[fig_cel] 




Subject: Freezing in Louisiana Replies: 30
Posted By: greenman62 Views: 395
 
its 83F in Kenner right now.
shirt off taking pics of my fig trees
still with fruit on them.... :)

coldest night we had was in the mid 50s, then, only for a few hours.
running the air conditioner right now.

all still have fruit except the Black Mission, but, it only had 5 all summer, its still small.

Most are loosing leaves however, except the Black Mission has only lost a couple.
I am wondering if this means it will hold more fruit longer  when it gets older ?

a younger tree i have with no ID is holding several still...


No ID...

[fig_fro]    


Mission

[black_miss_fig]

Subject: trade ? BM and unknowns. Replies: 0
Posted By: greenman62 Views: 90
 
I have Black Mission, and 2 unknown types.

One of those i think is Celeste, or , very similar.
Figs are kind of small but tasty and very productive.

Another might be White Isha ?
medium to large size, sweet. fast growing and productive.
still producing figlets today.

all 3 are very healthy looking trees.

looking for darker fleshed varieties... VDB, negronne... or ?
sweet and/or berry flavor types would be great.
ability to handle heat and high rainfall also a plus...

--------------------------------------

Celeste (maybe?)




-

this was its first fig in its first breba crop.


--

unknown...



 

Subject: do extra huge cuttings root ? Replies: 6
Posted By: greenman62 Views: 266
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by mikie0607
I'm in New Orleans also, I wish I would have known where the tree was, I would have took a few branches too! haha, I don't see why they wouldn't root, I also rooted many figs outdoors under my shed ramp (have gaps inbetween boards to let a little light in) and they all rooted fine. I would only be concerned about how cool it is getting now, maybe try rooting them indoors? Not sure how long big cuttings would hold up in the fridge.


mikie
WHere you located ?
i am actually in Kenner.
Let me know if you come this way, i have 4 unknown fig varieties maybe you can help me with - and i have some extra cuttings from this large tree you are welcome to.
also have a Black Mission and some others with extra wood i can easily trim.

i actually left a cutting in a 1gal container last year all winter
and it was perfectly fine.
i took so many cuttings, im sure some will root.
most already have lots of mulch over them. 

Subject: do extra huge cuttings root ? Replies: 6
Posted By: greenman62 Views: 266
 
So i was driving near my  neighborhood the other day
and i noticed out front of someones house a pile of tree refuse.
Someone had cut down a large fig tree and put it out to the street.

I had no way of cutting them up
and i was in my 2-seater Miata with a full trunk.

i took one smaller piece that was about 6ft long
with 3 branches out to the side
The thickness was like my wrist on the bottom.

i put 2 small cuttings in a container
i dont really have the potting soil or room to do a massive cutting operation

But...
I cut the rest up and put the large chunks in the ground
and covered them in much with the tops sticking out.

Since i am in New Orleans, and i have left cuttings out all year
in containers, and they rooted just fine
i am thinking these large ones just might take off ? 

i figure i can wait till spring and let them root
then dig them up as needed.
huge rooted cuttings would make a great trade or gift.

ANyone root cuttings this large ?
anything i should look out for ?

Subject: can you transplant a fig too deep ? Replies: 19
Posted By: greenman62 Views: 303
 
Hmmm...
this is actually interesting.
I am wondering if any testing has been done on this subject...

I have put tomato plants in the ground much deeper
and yes, it gave them a much better root system.

I actually recently read about roots needing air
i didnt know what till recently, that roots
will actually take in oxygen and give off CO2
and its the leaves that do the  opposite.
and what i read was that roots under water
die from not being able to release CO2
(especially if the water is stagnant and CO2 builds up)
and not from lacking oxygen.

So, im my case, i am building up the soil with mulch
and i doubt that it will cause the roots underneath to get less 02
especially since my soil is high in sand.
I also have lots of worms
i know they say worms can aerate the soil
but, i am wondering if thats the same thing ?
Since every inch of the root is not getting more 02
or, is more able to release CO2

So, i guess i will be mulching away :)

thanks all...

Subject: can you transplant a fig too deep ? Replies: 19
Posted By: greenman62 Views: 303
 
So i had planted this fig in my front yard
and being that we had 98F temps and little rain, i wanted to mulch as best i could.
so i kept throwing clippings and leaves on the ground at the base
and now its 2 inchs deep.
its been in ground at least 8 months now.

THing is, ive actually noticed roots coming out of the trunk
(well above the normal root-line)
i tried moving the mulch out the way
but the smaller roots actually started growing up, into the mulch.

So is this a problem for the future of the tree ?
SHould i really try to dig it up ?

Subject: Still leaves on my Fig Trees Replies: 14
Posted By: greenman62 Views: 296
 
i am in New Orleans and still getting figs.
all 3 trees, and my 2 cuttings with  a few leaves
are all still putting out new growth.
The larger tree is also, though its loosing leaves faster than putting out new ones.
(Celeste i think) still has about a dozen fruit on it.

I just had a Black  Mission yesterday
i should have let it ripen another day, but im pretty happy with this tree.
Its loosing a few leaves now, and no fruit left
(first year. it only produced 4 fruit... still small)

None of my guavas or mulberries have lost more than %10 of the leaves.
as far as New Orleans is concerned... Fall hasnt arrived yet.

its 74F today. one of the cooler days we have had so far.
(last week, we had a couple of days in the mid  to upper 80s)

if this weather keeps this up
i will be able to grow Cacao. :)
and my papaya wont die back to the trunk every year.

Subject: 1ft tall plant fruiting - normal ? Replies: 13
Posted By: greenman62 Views: 266
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by DomGardens
Would it be better long term to take off any fruit on a plant that young so that energy goes to root?

I would assume that considerable energy is spent in the process, thoughts?



Yeah, i normally do with other plants
and i am sure fig is the same

curiosity  got the better of me though
i wanted to know what the fruit looked like, take pics etc...
since i have no idea of the variety.
I have a 3 fruiting fig trees now, so no big rush for me.

Subject: organic or natural fertilizers ? Replies: 8
Posted By: greenman62 Views: 231
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by SCfigFanatic
I do all I can to prevent using chemicals on my figs.
I fertilize as it comes available by my 4 rabbits.
Unbelievable growth when top dressing my trees with it.

I do spray all my figs in early spring just as leaves appear.
I spray again in fall after all harvesting and cuttings taken.
What this does is help in the prevention of scales, aphids, and mites.
2 times a year with pyola insect spray.


Doug


Thanks Doug
no rabbits here though. im in the suburbs.

no insect problems either
(knock on wood)
but i do get a squirrel eating the ripe fruit...
will trade my squirrel for your rabbit ? :)

also
VeryNew2Figs

this is the "Front yard" fig  (no ID) i had for breakfast

[fig_front_yf] 

this is the leaves...
looks like BM a bit, but, its not.

[image]  [fig_front_y]

Subject: 1ft tall plant fruiting - normal ? Replies: 13
Posted By: greenman62 Views: 266
 


So i went to look at a house that was up for auction one day
there was a fig tree, and, i couldnt resist taking a cutting.

its been in this container since i got it several months ago.
i was happy to see it put out leaves almost right away
i didnt expect fruit this soon...

is it normal for them to fruit this fast, or this small ?

Subject: organic or natural fertilizers ? Replies: 8
Posted By: greenman62 Views: 231
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by VeryNew2Figs
Hi:  Let's see if I've gotten any better after a year.  I want to guess Brunswick or Violette De Bordeaux for your tree.  If your profile picture is the same tree I'll narrow my guess down to Violette De Bordeaux.

I like the natural stuff too.  I'd add kelp, alfalfa meal and Azomite to your mix.  I fertilize when I remember to, so I can't help you there.

Your tree looks good with all the figs on it.  What else are you growing?


Cant find Azomite, alfalfa or Kelp local.  i  used diatomaceous earth once or twice and i love it, but its a bit expensive
(i think it was $12 for an 8lb bag, with all my trees, that lasts 2 weeks max)

as far as type
the first 2 pics are a plant i got from Lowes for $2 - One or two years ago
i think its a green/white type. i just had a fruit this morning, the outside was light green
and inside was a honey color with a bit of light purple also in the middle.
it was soft, but i think could have waited a couple of days more.

On the last pic
i posted it here a while back
someone said Celeste... its very productive, darker color skin...
someone else told me LSU purple ?
no idea, as long as it tastes good, im happy :)

heres a post of me asking for ID for both of them
(first 2 pics are what i am calling "front yard"

http://figs4funforum.websitetoolbox.com/post/2-trees-unknown-id-8175599?pid=1292820335

===============
.


what am i growing ?
everything edible... LOL

i have several large trees, and dozens of small ones...

Cherimoya, mango, papaya, kiwi, muscadine, jujube, starfruit, aratilis, several types of guava and Psidium relatives, Jaboticaba and other Myrtaceae, Mamey, mulberry, Lychee, several herbs
and about 20 more :)
[backy_GG_g]    

Subject: organic or natural fertilizers ? Replies: 8
Posted By: greenman62 Views: 231
 
Hi all
i grow several fruit trees, and have gotten pretty good at conditioning the soil
so that i dont really need chemical fertilizers, and i dont like using them at all unless absolutely necessary.

I mainly use fish emulsion, also some molasses, worm castings and compost
(mostly home made)

I have had pretty good results so far, especially with 1 fig in my back yard
i dont know the variety, so im not sure what it should taste like,
or, how large the fruit should be.

I have 2 fig trees in my front yard, where its mostly grass, and i havent been able to condition the soil properly yet.
The trees are still young, but, each only produced 5 and 7 figs.
(one is a Black Mission, i dont know the ID of the other)

i am wondering what people use that dont like chemicals
(and when to use them ) ??


front yard - no I.D. (young / new)
[fig_frui_long_front] 


front yard - no I.D. (same tree as pic above )

[fig_frui_long_fron5t] 

backyard - (celeste ?)

[figs_galore_1666] 


Subject: ID - leaves like Black Mission ? Replies: 4
Posted By: greenman62 Views: 97
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by pitangadiego
I have seen Black Mission with leaves like this, but they could also be leaves from other varieties, such as Brunswick.

They are NOT the quintessential Black Mission leaves, but there seems to be a lot of variability.


pitangadiego

did you mean the one i wanted ID for 
Or, are you saying the one i have labeled as Black Mission (Yellow Leaf)
is actually not ?

Do you (or anyone else) have  BM leaf to post ?
ive used google images, but often people dont know what they have
i would rather trust this group.

thanks
Brad

Subject: ID - leaves like Black Mission ? Replies: 4
Posted By: greenman62 Views: 97
 

i had gotten this from Lowes for $3 several months ago
its really taken off and looking healthy.

i was looking at my Black Mission, and the leaves seem very similar.
there are differences however.
the tip of each lobe separates into 3 on the Mission
on this plant it does not.

It also does not have the "redish" coloring at the terminal bud
like the Mission does.

Both this one AND the mission have small fruitlets on them
right now !
is this normal timing to start producing fruit ?

Both plants are very young
The mission is about 18 months from a 6 inch plant
(supposedly tissue culture)

this one from Lowes was 1ft tall 6 months ago !

all pics are of the "unknown lowes" plant
(except the yellow leaf is B Mission)

fig-id-leaf-bla-miss.jpg 

aug26_FIG_Mystery_ID.jpg 


FIG_Mystery_ID.jpg 


fig-4___2111.jpg

Subject: figs galore, and my cuttings spouted Replies: 3
Posted By: greenman62 Views: 119
 
Richie, you are from Hickory La. ?
My mother is from Cottonport. Father is from Big Bend...
lots of relatives in the area
spent a lot of time there as a kid.

Can you still smell Bagas driving down the street ?
i always thought that stuff would make great compost.
wish i had a truckload right now... LOL.

Subject: figs galore, and my cuttings spouted Replies: 3
Posted By: greenman62 Views: 119
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by figpig_66
Which tree is,this one ? I really like it. Is it RDB. LOOKS LIKE IT HAS LONGER LEAVES. Let me know if you want to trade cuttings or a airlayer if you can


Hi Figpig
would be more than happy to trade cuttings.
obviously air-layer would take more time.
cutting start for me very easily (on fig anyway) maybe its the humidity here ?
so, i dont do airlayers regularly on fig.

PM me with address etc...

i have better pics, a bit older though, here...
http://figs4funforum.websitetoolbox.com/post/2-trees-unknown-id-8175599?pid=1292820335

someone said it may be Brunswick

Stella, Vasilika Sika , and Dalmatie are also names ive seen used
on figs with long fingers, though i know very little about them.

Subject: figs galore, and my cuttings spouted Replies: 3
Posted By: greenman62 Views: 119
 

This is the fig i got 
from a cutting i took 3 yrs ago
at a deserted property for sale by the city.
There were 3 fig trees and 4 citrus, and a couple of other things
it appeared the guy who owned it had kept up the trees and soil etc...

i had 2 fruit last year, and they were poor
but, ive had 7 to 8 this year (squirrels had a few also)
and now its putting out more. - a LOT more - LOL
i can just see when this thing it 12 yrs old...

very tasty, not super-sweet, but, sweet enough
and great texture.


figs-galore2.jpg 

figs-galore__00.jpg 
this is the $2 plant from Lowes i bought in spring
its really taking off !!

fig-4___21.jpg 

this is a cutting i planted from my black mission
2 months ago !
already rooted...

fig-pot-edff..l.jpg




this is that cutting, and another i got from a neighbor
also no ID...

Just wondering about the growth pattern of these 2
they seem quite different...
the Black Mission doesnt seem to have a main leader to grow from
will it produce one ?
its from the middle of a branch that broke off.
the end part died.
 


fig-seedl.jpg 

fig-pot-edl.jpg 

another $2 plant from Lowes.
not growing as fast
i may have planted it too deep ?
or, something ate the leaves off of one branch...

fig-5x..jpg 


the Black Mission...

back-miss-fig.jpg 

Subject: Newb stupid question about growing from seed Replies: 5
Posted By: greenman62 Views: 121
 
thanks for the replies

ive been growing mango, guava, and several other tropical (and not) fruit trees

some are much more variable than others
i just had my first mango from a seed i had grown from a fruit in Fla
it was actually very good.
in the forum i am in, most people told me it was a waste of time, im glad i kept it.

That said, i dont really have the room to grow 10+ plants
on top of what i have (LOL)
especially if the odds are bad that it will even produce fruit.
i will save the space for mango, and ... just one more fig...
from a reliable cutting etc...
(ive said that before) LOL

Subject: Newb stupid question about growing from seed Replies: 5
Posted By: greenman62 Views: 121
 
Still pretty new at growing figs
i know some species need a particular wasp for pollination
but, does that mean it will not produce fruit,
or, it will just not produce fertile seeds ??


There is a website i was getting ready to buy seeds from
and since i usually buy several species at a time
i saw this fig, and would love to grow it
will it produce fruit, or, do i need a certain wasp ?

Ficus auriculata / Elephant Ear Fig Tree
http://www.rarexoticseeds.com/en/tree-seeds/fruit-tree-seeds/ficus-auriculata-seeds-elephant-ear-fig-tree-roxburgh-fig-coconut-strawberry-fig.html

Subject: Snake bite today Replies: 83
Posted By: greenman62 Views: 1,243
 
ive been studying herbs for most of 20yrs
turmeric is , in my estimation, one of the most powerful.
Aloe vera is up there as well.
eat a piece of aloe  leaf twice a week
(not the green stuff, just the clear stuff inside the leaf)
and a teaspoon of turmeric daily, and you can slow or prevent damn near any disease.

aloe may be useful with the bite too.
great for any skin condition or infection.

good luck.

Subject: Making cheese with fig sap. Replies: 45
Posted By: greenman62 Views: 3,215
 
several trees in other areas are used for their sap.
South America, India, Africa etc...

obviously here in the USA we have maple, but i hear birch, sycamore and some others can be used.

i have to wonder if the leaking the sap would stunt the growth of the fruit, or even of the tree ?

Subject: recommendations for the South ? Replies: 7
Posted By: greenman62 Views: 203
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by CharlesC
There are a huge number of possible answers.  Taste preferences differ, and there is no perfect fig.  There will be some problems with rust, splitting, souring, bugs, etc...  With that said, here are a few that seem to be loved by almost everyone who grows them.

Lightish- Dalmatie/Stella, Strawberry Verte
Brownish- Longue D'Aout, Improved Celeste
Blackish- Figo Preto, LSU Scott's Black

Search the forum for their names, you will probably like what you read.


ive seen some reports and pics of Preto and Strawberry verte
they seem to be very juicy , sweet.

my celeste (or what i think might be celeste)
seems smaller, not as dark etc...
not a bad taste, i like them, but it would be nice to have a larger sweet fig.
ive never had one outside New Orleans, which are all very old varieties im guessing. probably celeste, LSU and brown turkey is about all i hear around here.

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Marcus 
one reason i got Black Mission was a report saying it was good for South Texas ?
http://www.texasgardener.com/pastissues/marapr08/Figs.html

Is that because of rain or heat  or ?
South Texas is probably a lot dryer, but similar in temps. very hot summers, and little to no frost in winter.

i have no experience in "green" or white figs, but, i had bought one at home depot for $2 (lol) with 2 fruit on it. i figured i could graft to it if nothing else.
i thought it said "white Isha" but cant remember, and the tag was loose, so may have even been from another plant.

actually, i bought 2 plants , the other had no tag at all.

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this is another $2 home Depot special.

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Sas
"If you wish to have an extended season, you will need to grow a few varieties. "
 
"Preto (late variety) would definitely be on my list."

thanks,
i was thinking Preto from a post i saw earlier saying how sweet and tasty it was. glad to know it will work here.
 
can i grat Preto onto my celeste ? its a vigorous grower (if it is celeste)

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Subject: the beauties of pinching Replies: 38
Posted By: greenman62 Views: 1,118
 
just an FYI
this isnt just for figs.
i tip-prune (pinch) the tops of my guava
it makes it develop 2 shoots instead of 1
so, it is forming the shape of the tree, as well as putting some of the energy into fruit instead of new growth
i do this on a regular basis with guava
but, also do it with Jujube, Mango, loquat, barbados cherry etc...

some trees like Barbados Cherry (Acerola / Malpighia emarginata)
 can have long skinny branches which will bend with too much fruit on them.
tipping the branch when young will keep it shorter so the branch will bend less under the weight of the fruit.

it will certainly change the form and shape, so keep that in mind, especially for something like mango.

  you can see the tops, which were much longer, now forcing new side growth on this Acerola / Barbados Cherry

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and here, forcing fruit on the laft, and flowers on the right.
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long skinny branches ... normal growth before tip-pruning

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Subject: recommendations for the South ? Replies: 7
Posted By: greenman62 Views: 203
 
Hi all
i am still fairly new to growing figs
i have a Black Mission, what i think is a celeste, and an unknown.
they are all still young. i had 3 fruit on the Cleleste last year, and about 2 dozen this year. its still producing small figs actually. and, ive already eaten a few that just ripened.
the others are too small to produce, though, the black mission is about 4ft tall and wide.

I am in New Orleans, and we get a lot of rain here. its also humid

i am looking for taste of course, but also for having a long growing season, or breba crop.
I am not a big fan of fruit trees that produce for 2 weeks out the year.

heres the pics of the "unknown ID" trees
https://figs4funforum.websitetoolbox.com/post/2-trees-unknown-id-8175599?pid=1292820335

any suggestions appreciated
Brad

Subject: 2 trees - unknown ID Replies: 1
Posted By: greenman62 Views: 108
 

got the 1st one from Lowes for $3
no tag


i got the second tree as a cutting from a property in New Orleans
it was a very old house in an old neighborhood and an established tree.
the house was for sale for unpaid taxes, so i figured no one would mind i took a cutting
LOL
anyway... i have no idea what it is

i just had 4-5 fruit the last 2 days.
they were very good. somewhat sweet, but not overly so
i picked them when they were soft (im still a newbie at figs)
but , they didnt seem very dark colored.
maybe its the rain ? its been raining for 7 days straight.

back to tree 1

Tree #1

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Tree #2

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this was the darkest colored one
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Subject: Lowes $2 (ID ? ) Replies: 9
Posted By: greenman62 Views: 302
 

this was on sale for $2 at Lowes
in a 1 gallon container, but very root-bound.
i teased the roots apart, put it in a 3 gal.

it had 3 figs on it. i removed them
I am pretty sure it said "white" something,
but it was *not* "white" 
 Ischia, italian, adriatic, genoa, kadota, texas...

i picked up another one also.
will have to get pics for it.
name also missing... LOL

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Subject: ID variety ? Replies: 4
Posted By: greenman62 Views: 107
 
last years 2 fruit.


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i also have a black mission.
Are these good ? any particular instructions for it ?
it seems to be growing well, but no fruit like this one.
it does seem to be growing a tad slower, and less leaves overall.

Black Mission

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Black Mission


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Subject: ID variety ? Replies: 4
Posted By: greenman62 Views: 107
 

so i had gotten a cutting from a house that was vacant and for sale.
about 2 or 3 years ago.
last year, it had 1 fruit and just a few leaves.
 
Any idea as to variety ?

thanks

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Subject: cuttings with roots but no leaves Replies: 28
Posted By: greenman62 Views: 1,528
 
this might be a stupid question, but how do you know if they have roots ?
i have 2 cuttings going now, both have a bud on top,
they have been in a pot for several weeks,
i dont know if there are any roots though ?

Subject: 460 year old fig tree, Lambeth Palace Replies: 15
Posted By: greenman62 Views: 569
 
i wonder if they could spare a few cuttings ?


FYI....
i want a cutting from this one LOL...
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One of the most famous species of Banyan, called the Sacred Fig [wiki] or Bo tree, is the Sri Maha Bodhi [wiki] tree in Anuradhapura, Sri Lanka. It is said that the tree was grown from a cutting from the original tree under which Buddha became enlightened in the 6th century BC.

Planted in 288 BC, it is the oldest living human-planted tree in the world, with a definitive planting date!

http://www.neatorama.com/2007/03/21/10-most-magnificent-trees-in-the-world/


List of famous fig trees


The well-known Wonderboom is a dense grove of parent and daughter trees of the species Ficus salicifolia, that descended from a central bole of about a thousand years old.[1][2]
It is named after the Wonderboom grove inPretoria, that has spread from a central bole that was carbon dated to about 1,000 years old.[1][2] The Wonderboom is an extraordinary specimen for its size and structure, and its drooping branches are continuing to root and form new trees.[2]
http://us.wow.com/wiki/Ficus_salicifolia

Subject: Pomegranates Replies: 48
Posted By: greenman62 Views: 4,738
 
i ate a fruit from the store
and spit the seeds out in my pots (fruit trees etc...)
 a few months later i had lots of little seedlings.
Now, i have 3 larger (3gal+) trees, and 4 smaller (1gal) ones
one of the larger ones produced 5 fruit last fall. -about 2 years, maybe 3 ?
(i am guessing "Wonderful" variety)
it tasted the same as the store fruit.
i didnt find the seeds worth eating. i hadnt really tried with the store bought fruit
so, i cant really compare that.
so i saw a Wonderful from cutting (or air layer?) and bought that too now.

i wouldnt mind trading some cuttings for another variety
Parafinaka, Grenada, Angel red, or ?
prefer one that has edible seed...

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Subject: Not figs, but very important if you live in SW or TX, LA Replies: 10
Posted By: greenman62 Views: 279
 
hmmm...
i was sick over the winter
not a cold or the flu, it was swollen lymph nodes, and some strange skin problems.
(i havent gotten a cold since i went vegan 25 years ago)
i had blood work done 3 times, all looked good.
makes you wonder...

i read it makes men more aggressive.
this makes me wonder about mass shootings etc...
im sure there are many people with legit psychological problems
but adding an extra dose of aggressive behavior is never good.

guess ya never know.

Subject: Does anyone have a mango Replies: 14
Posted By: greenman62 Views: 265
 
I am in New Orleans (zone 9)
and have several seedlings growing from seed.
one is a Florigon about 5ft tall. i plan on putting it in-ground in the spring.
that way it will be well over 6ft (maybe 7 or 8) by winter.

The florigon took 28F temps last winter in a container
with only minor leaf damage.

i had 2 seedlings about 1ft tall i planted in ground... both died.

The Champagne mango (really Ataulfo) are usually in stores
in the winter (Jan-Feb) from Mexico.
They taste good, and from what ive heard grow true-to-seed.
i have several from grocery store fruit., mostly 2 or 3ft
i may plant all in the spring and hope 2 or 3 will be strong enough by next winter to survive.

ive learned to try and protect plants in winter
either by frost cloth, or, by planting evergreens next to them
(just dont let them block out sun)
also, if you can, raise the ground a couple of inches.
this lets the cold air flow downhill.

i plant papaya next to a south-facing wall (my house).
the roots are not a problem, mango might be however...
large rocks,, even 5gal buckets of water can hold in heat from the day
releasing it at night.

there is a report that the variety "Bailey's Marvel"
is more cold hardy than others.
this was one guy however, and has not been verified.

Subject: Tropical Papaya Seeds Available Replies: 6
Posted By: greenman62 Views: 128
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by PhilaGardener
By total chance I happened across a page from the University of Hawaii Ag Service and they are selling papaya seeds for $1.00 a pkt, postage included!  (They actually list a strange variety of other things that might be of interest, but - sorry - no figs.)  I have not ordered from them (and don't plan to) but I thought some folks here might be interested in looking into this:

http://www.ctahr.hawaii.edu/seed/seeds.asp

(Note the GMO varieties that are more expensive cannot be shipped off the islands).


ive grown dozens of papaya from different sources
the seeds from my wall-mart papaya are the best.
they are VERY productive,, grow fast, never any pest or disease issues
and have nice sweet flavor.
there are some sweeter, but if you tree ripen a papaya, its better.
to sell them in stores, they pick them too early for them to ship.
they never ripen properly.
wait till they are almost completely yellow
(watch for squirrels, birds... paper bagging the fruit helps)

ive gotten seeds from Univ of Hawaii (Waimanalo x-77) before, they are very good,
but not as productive as the maradols (usually carribean red) from the stores.
Waimanalo is short, and produces fruit low to the ground though.

you can keep a tree short by cutting the top (3 or 4 inches)off when young.
its not as good as dwarf seed, but, it works.

i planted this one close to my house
when i watered, i only watered between the house and the plant
so the roots would grow toward the house and stay warm in winter :)

we had 2 bouts of 28F weather that killed all my other plants last winter
a little colder than normal, somce years it never gets below 30F
and , while they loose leaves, they come back easy and fast.
the top died off, but it came back in spring
and i started getting ripe fruit a few weeks ago. (9b New Orleans)

you can see the trunk branch out to 3
all producing frui
this makes it top-heavy and produce more fruit
than it can supply nutrients for easily, so, i thin them out every few weeks.

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this is from sept 2013
these plants are about 20 months old at this point.
they died in a freeze a couple of months later


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Subject: unknown ID please? New Orleans Replies: 5
Posted By: greenman62 Views: 107
 
thanks for the feedback.

the size isnt normal right ?
i am guessing with this being its very first fruit,
size and taste might not be normal ?

i know this happens with other fruit trees
but, i dont know much about figs.

i am also not much of a taste-tester/connoisseur.
ive only tasted 4-5 types of figs in my life.

the only ones i ever ate regular, was from when i was a kid
and i dont think anyone ever knew the name/type of the tree.

LSU and Celeste are both fairly common here. (New Orleans)

Subject: unknown ID please? New Orleans Replies: 5
Posted By: greenman62 Views: 107
 

I am a newb when it comes to figs.
someone gave me this 2 years ago.
just getting large enough to fruit.
there are 4-5 fruit on it. i notieced this one about 2 weeks ago
yesterday i saw it was purple, so, i picked it today.
tasted very light, small amount of sweetness





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tiny fig.



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Subject: new member, New Orleans Replies: 16
Posted By: greenman62 Views: 242
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by figpig_66
Hi and welcome. I live on the other side of the lake ( northshore) you have a celeste fig. What part of the city you live in? Lived most my life in slidell moved to hickory 15 years ago. Its outside of slidell. What kind of fruit trees do you have for trade?


thanks all...

Any suggestions as to what will do well and taste good down here ?
i realize taste is somewhat subjective, but i dont know much about fig varieties...
ive had a few types. Not a fan of brown turkey.
i have heard there are some with berry or melon flavors ?
that would be excellent...

happy to trade, or pay postage+ for cuttings...

Hi figpig_66 
I have Lychee, mulberry,  Loquat, Cacao, papaya, mango, cherimoya 
i have several guava, but im missing tags on them.
i also have lots of herbs, several basils, edible greens...
(chaya, gynura, malabar spinach...)

cheers
Brad
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Subject: new member, New Orleans Replies: 16
Posted By: greenman62 Views: 242
 
Hi all,
when i was a kid, my father had 2 fig trees in the back yard.
i was not a fan of them at the time,
but now, i have a new-found appreciation for the fig.

I did find one from a property that was abandoned after Hurricane Katrina.
The guy had several fruit trees, it was obviously a hobby for him.
Last year i took a cutting, and now have a 5ft tree.

if anyone can speculate on the variety, it would be better than my guess...
i have very small fruit on it, so, i guess i will know at least how it tastes when they ripen...
i will get some more pics then...

I am interested in trading. (or buying)
i have lots of subtropical type fruits
and am in the process of turning my yard into a permaculture food-forest.
you are welcome to look at some pics here...
http://s98.photobucket.com/user/911review/library/?sort=3&page=1

i am looking for a berry flavored - great tasting, reliable fig, 
that can do well in the south - zone 9a/ 9b
occasional light freezes. rarely ever under 28F.

any suggestions as to varieties would be welcome...
Breba crop and/or long fruiting period very helpful

here are some pics of my mystery fig.

summer
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last week, with fruit...
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