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Subject: Herman2 Replies: 30
Posted By: OttawanZ5 Views: 958
 
Danny, your input is not a rant but makes good sense to me.

When posting I was also thinking of too many 'sales' post but skipped mentioning it thinking it could be just seasonal issue. Having a "Classified" section is a good idea.

 

Subject: Herman2 Replies: 30
Posted By: OttawanZ5 Views: 958
 
Sad to know that Herman2 is not shown in membership list; sad to know his posts are also deleted, a treasure lost.
I hope he is doing well health-wise.

The forum is evolving and not all changes have helped to keep it as interesting as it was in the past. e.g :

- Too many Off-Topics

- Too long signatures, sometime ten times longer than the message before the signature.
   Sometimes a 6 inch deep signature follows a '3 words post' and repeated after each
   short post.

- Too few poster care to search the forum before asking a question. So the same questions
   have been asked again and again.

-  Too many posts that could have been better addressed using PM.

-  Too many reply posts that include 'quote' of others long posts including many pictures causing the same picture repeated many times in the
    same thread.

-  Good photos, more sales but relatively less technical/botanical info exchange. More selling than trades.

- And don't forget the aging factor of old members but that is not a reason to delete the
   posts

Anyway, it will be good to know what happened in case of such a valuable contributor and a good person leaving the F4F forum.

Subject: New year resolution Replies: 8
Posted By: OttawanZ5 Views: 154
 
Happy New Year.

It is better to count the blessings and asking for more.

Subject: Factors that affect the size/amount of figs Replies: 13
Posted By: OttawanZ5 Views: 489
 
Keep in mind that each cultivar has its own limiting normal size. Good care can help increased fruit size but obviously proportional (relative) to the cultivar natural limit that differ for each cultivar.

Subject: Merry Christmas! Replies: 7
Posted By: OttawanZ5 Views: 60
 
TO YOU TOO

MERRY CHRISTMAS FROM ALL THE MEMBERS AT F4F


Subject: Merry Christmas to all!! Replies: 32
Posted By: OttawanZ5 Views: 335
 
TO ALL IN THE FORUM & THEIR FAMILIES

 Merry Christmas
&
Happy New Year


My favourite for the season since 60s:

Subject: Strawberry Tree Replies: 30
Posted By: OttawanZ5 Views: 536
 
Surprisingly, Lychee fruit and leaves look the same as the strawberry tree but Lychee fruit has a fat smooth stone.

https://www.google.ca/search?q=lychee+trees&biw=1434&bih=756&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&sqi=2&ved=0ahUKEwjp_oSv3uPQAhVT42MKHdliC_4QsAQIJQ&dpr=1

Subject: Strawberry Tree Replies: 30
Posted By: OttawanZ5 Views: 536
 
The fruit looks like Lychee grown in parts of South and South East asia. It is peel-able and taste exotic.
http://www.lycheesonline.com/


Image result for lychee

Subject: Which varieties only produce brebas? Replies: 7
Posted By: OttawanZ5 Views: 173
 
Haslamhulme
My response was related to your statement:
"However,there is one Unknown I admire locally which has NO main crop whatsoever"

From your question and above statement I understood that you meant that fig grow on the previous years growth and no fig appears on the current year growth that seemed odd to me and had not experienced with any variety. Desert King does not fit that variety. DK ripens breba and occasionally ripens a few main crop which I have observed a couple of times including this year ripening a few main crop figs but not as sweet as the breba.

Subject: Which varieties only produce brebas? Replies: 7
Posted By: OttawanZ5 Views: 173
 
I cannot categorically say that such fig does not exist that only produce one crop (breba) which grows on previous years growth where the leaves used to be, and does not grow any main crop figs that grow on the current year growth next to the leaves. But that is only my experience of not having grown/found such variety.
 
However, F4F website has a statement "Some varieties produce only a breba crop".

http://figs4fun.com/basics_Pruning.html
 which says " Main crop figs form on the new growth that appears this season. Some varieties produce only a breba crop; some have both breba and main-crop figs, and many have only main-crop figs. If you prune a breba-only variety, you reduce or eliminate your fruit for that year. If you prune a variety with breba and main-crop figs, you sacrifice the breba crop. If you prune a main-crop-only variety, you lose nothing. In my opinion, breba-crop figs are not numerous, and mostly of inferior taste, sweetness and quality. MORE"

Subject: Olympian surprise Replies: 1
Posted By: OttawanZ5 Views: 188
 
Figs do that.
When I sometime break a fig plant limb by mishandling, I plant the cutting in the ground and forget about it except occasional watering. Often I see it sprout slowly in my cool summer climate. Your N Carolina is relatively heaven for such occurrences.
Many people see discarded fig cuttings thrown on compost heap greening up.

Enjoy the nature surprises and your figs.

Subject: Are Roots Left Behind After Potting Good for Anything? Replies: 11
Posted By: OttawanZ5 Views: 256
 
Theoretically possible but the long wait for a happenchance is not worth waiting for.

Read these threads:

http://figs4funforum.websitetoolbox.com/post/fig-trees-from-roots-4600158?pid=39049817

http://forums.gardenweb.com/discussions/1873556/propagation-from-roots


Subject: Annual Wish List 2016-17 of 6 most desirable cuttings Replies: 54
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Subject: trade/swap or sell Replies: 4
Posted By: OttawanZ5 Views: 398
 
Porfirio
This thread belongs to trade/swap or sell, so I will not help in hijacking it and send you a PM to answer your question.

Subject: Anyone heard of this Variety "Olympian" and the company Agristarts? Replies: 6
Posted By: OttawanZ5 Views: 227
 
Listing of plants above looks like an infomercial. 

Olympian is widely known and traded by members of this forum. 

Subject: trade/swap or sell Replies: 4
Posted By: OttawanZ5 Views: 398
 
Good luck with trades.
Winter is already here. Six cm of snow came yesterday afternoon when I was in the process of moving plants inside. I was afraid of this. Now  I have to wait a few days for a better weather. 


Subject: Green Cuttings Replies: 10
Posted By: OttawanZ5 Views: 244
 
Welcome back Cecil. 
Nice to see you posting again.

Subject: How to Ripen Figs Replies: 6
Posted By: OttawanZ5 Views: 212
 
I also used to place a large clear plastic bag over potted fig plants in the fall that had figs with good size and seemed good candidates for ripening with extra heat trapped in the bag.

Subject: How to Ripen Figs Replies: 6
Posted By: OttawanZ5 Views: 212
 
Thanks.  
The article say "If you know any other methods for ripening figs please share them with us. "

Yes, I know one. Have a green-house and enjoy the figs.
I don't have one (yet....).

Subject: Forcing dormancy of mature plants for winter storage before snow, slush and freeze Replies: 14
Posted By: OttawanZ5 Views: 223
 
Thanks. I got wonderful informed input for action. However, it is raining and and expected snow tonight (may be just flurries) but we do expect -4C on Wednesday and that may take care of many leaves and those still hanging can be cut off for storage.

My main concern was that while giving the plants the benefit of 'no frost, good weather' this late in October can frequently end up with sudden snowfall and freezing temperatures in Ottawa making it hard at my age to move plants inside. Thanks for the fine input.

Bill, to answer your question, I always pinch the lead bud on a newly rooted plant when the plant is 15" to 18" tall to make it branch out. It will be better for you now to wait until spring to pinch it. Some varieties branch out early even if the lead branch is not pinched but some tend to grow high like a stick before branching which is not good for potted plants. But that is my practice and I like the results. Others may prefer differently.

Subject: Frost and Micro climates Replies: 4
Posted By: OttawanZ5 Views: 83
 
It could be both in case of HC.

However if you do some search on dormancy in the forum posts, you will see many post where young plants are stubbornly keep the leaves while the mature one are close to shedding or are already shedding. I had similar experience last year.
I am zone 5a and had a couple of nights at -2c but it did not do any expediting of leaves dropping.
Proximity to the house will surely help it keep the leaves longer.

Active growth due to watering and late fertilization also change the pattern for dormancy as well as lignification of the wood.

Subject: Snow is coming!!! Replies: 31
Posted By: OttawanZ5 Views: 431
 
No snow, but -5C on Wednesday 
Cloudy periods-5°C

and that should start the leaves to drop so pots can be moved inside for winter storage.
So far fig plants resisting to drop leaves where as maple trees are dropping leaves.


Subject: Annual Wish List 2016-17 of 6 most desirable cuttings Replies: 54
Posted By: OttawanZ5 Views: 2,314
 
Daniel
I thought I have heard all the fig varieties names by now !!!?!!

Subject: Forcing dormancy of mature plants for winter storage before snow, slush and freeze Replies: 14
Posted By: OttawanZ5 Views: 223
 
Thanks.
I have previously brought them inside the garage with the leaves but after the leaves fall, the garage later smells like cat pee. 

Subject: Forcing dormancy of mature plants for winter storage before snow, slush and freeze Replies: 14
Posted By: OttawanZ5 Views: 223
 

I checked existing posts on dormancy but none was relevant to answer my question. So I am asking botany or fig plants expert growing in colder areas.

 My location is zone 5a in the North and we already had a few nights below freezing, night temperature have been between 10C and freezing for a couple of weeks now but even the mature potted fig trees have green leaves (quite different situation from 5 years back). There is no option here to let it grow outside since we get -25C in mid-winter. Also, I cannot wait too long since after mid-October weather can bring expected (or unexpected) snow, slush and freezing temperatures that will make the task of bringing in potted fig collection inside.

 My question is if removing the green leaves and taking the pots inside the dark garage lead the plants to a healthy dormancy with no ill effects?

I have already removed loads of unripe figs that felt like hard golf balls.


Subject: Madeleine dds needs pollination? Replies: 18
Posted By: OttawanZ5 Views: 225
 
recomer20
Fruits on my fig trees start ripening after the cool nights start in the fall !!

I had heard some others had similar experience.
Our nights are in the 6C to 10C these days and I see figs ripening here and there after late September.


Subject: Madeleine dds needs pollination? Replies: 18
Posted By: OttawanZ5 Views: 225
 
MDDS does not need pollination. 
We don't have fig pollinating wasps but I get ripe MDDS figs.

Subject: Will adding soil to potted trees injure them? . Replies: 7
Posted By: OttawanZ5 Views: 147
 
If the portion of the wood just above the crown is capable of rooting before rotting the it is safe to add soil. The problem is not the soil itself but the moisture that will rot the part above the crown if it does not root before rot. The potted fig plants will easily root with moist soil before rot.
Surf the forum and you will find example of air-layering very thick branches of fig trees above the crown.
When wooded area are leveled in landscaping project, mature trees are left with bowl like open area not to cover above the ground to avoid rotting but it may not be necessary for species like willow trees because they most likely generate roots even when reasonably mature. 

Subject: Will adding soil to potted trees injure them? . Replies: 7
Posted By: OttawanZ5 Views: 147
 
Just adding the soil will be OK. Soak the added soil from the top at least once if you are normally watering from the bottom. 
It has always worked fine for me.

Subject: Fig trees to admire... Replies: 8
Posted By: OttawanZ5 Views: 277
 
I hope you enjoyed your fig trip.
Looks like everywhere fig paradise but Ottawa !

PS: Which part of Ottawa is zone 5b? I should move there.

Subject: Dam raccoons Replies: 53
Posted By: OttawanZ5 Views: 580
 
I have fig plants and grapes in the same area and raccoons are causing havoc in both after emptying pear and apple trees of all fruits. They somehow get to the food in the traps (cat can-food, fruits, marshmallows, peanut butter etc) without triggering the latch. Squirrels do damage as well but raccoons makes me more upset because they damage the plants as well. I had to dig out a cherry tree because raccoons destroyed it by breaking many branches. The raccoons will come as family of four and get on to the branches together and break it. I tried to keep a watch for them but gave up because they would come any time from sunset to sunrise and also weekly rip the garbage bags placed on the curb for collection. I am stymied some time thinking that raccoons damage (and root pruning the potted figs) makes me think of throwing in the towel but, despite the age, the love of just growing and watching fig plants pulls me back.
Raccoons are the nastiest things at the fig ripening time when you find out that they got to it just before you were planning to harvest it. I suspect that they may be detecting it by smell when a fig gets closer to ripening because they get to those ones too that are out of sight but they find it !!.

Subject: Fig types Replies: 4
Posted By: OttawanZ5 Views: 207
 
The best way to find what grows well in your area is to grow and find out yourself.
I will suggest (based on my zone 5a experience) to start with these in your two lists; Atreano, King (Desert), RDB, VDB, Peter Honey, JH Adriatic, 143-36. Then add some next year.
Black Madeira is a good variety but one of the late ripening so you may have check around if anyone in your has good experience growing it.

Subject: Annual Wish List 2016-17 of 6 most desirable cuttings Replies: 54
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Mike
So you have #6 in my wish-list then probably you might have grown it in 300-gallon pot with a tight cage around it. Good idea for no root-pruning requirement and defence against raccoons. Thanks.

Subject: Annual Wish List 2016-17 of 6 most desirable cuttings Replies: 54
Posted By: OttawanZ5 Views: 2,314
 

This kind of thread has been providing Forum members a single venue for listing their wish-list of most desirable cuttings (or plants) for the coming fall and winter season. Many people have been listing their wish-list under their signature but this thread provides you a single place/thread to find out ‘who is seeking what’ in case you might have available for trade and initiate a trade opportunity by contacting the poster of the wish-list ( by PM or email) informing him that you can provide in trade cuttings (or plant) of a variety in his wish-list if he has something available from your wish-list in trade /exchange  (or for the cost of shipping and handling if that is preferred).

Examples can be seen by newcomers in the previous year wish-list thread at http://figs4funforum.websitetoolbox.com/post/annual-wishlist-of-6-most-desirable-cuttings-for-201516-7606573?pid=1288725605

To make the thread efficient, it is advisable to:
(i)...limit your list to only the 6 most desirable cuttings on your wish-list for the year 2016-17.
(ii)..have only one post per member with the actual wish-list, keeping it updated in order to keep your post valid (with short comments like... promised / received / not needed anymore etc) as the case may be.
(iii).. Trade related negotiation should preferably be done through PMs or email outside the thread.

 Good luck with your Wish-List.

Here is my wish-list of six:
1- De La Reina        
2- Sbay
3- Vasilika Mavra
4- Black Ischia       (rooted plant died past winter)
5- Galicia Negra

6- Any good one that does not need root-pruning and can defend itself against raccoons

          If you have any of the above for trade, let me know what you are looking for in exchange in case I have it (… reasonable probability). I will have cuttings in the fall for trade/exchange.


Subject: Raspberry Latte Replies: 31
Posted By: OttawanZ5 Views: 843
 
Good feedback that may help many in decision making about keeping it or not keeping it. Thanks to all.
I have a few more varieties like this that are unproductive in my zone 5a area even though they had been highly touted in other places. Time for me to reconsider about these.
 

Subject: Texas Blue Giant maybe Replies: 3
Posted By: OttawanZ5 Views: 174
 
Good looking fig, probably breba (or is it main crop?).

Is Texas Blue Giant the same as the "Blue Giant" listed on F4F varieta page
 http://figs4fun.com/Thumbnail_Blue_Giant.html


Subject: It's Alive! Zone 5 Olympian Replies: 2
Posted By: OttawanZ5 Views: 213
 
I hope you have enough summer heat and days left to see embryo formation and then wait for ripening to enjoy the taste. Die back to ground in short cool summer area can be discouraging. May need patience and hope as it may improve with maturity if it survive a couple of winters in Zone 5.

Subject: Does it help ! Replies: 4
Posted By: OttawanZ5 Views: 144
 
Leaves do give and take i.e. consume some nutrients and moisture but provides back through photosynthesis.
Depending on your plant size, if the leaves are shaded then removing them may not be detrimental to the plant growth. 
Some people remove some leaves during the ripening period too provide more sun shining on the fruits. 


Subject: Unk Pastiliere question Replies: 21
Posted By: OttawanZ5 Views: 330
 
I looked after my Unknown Pastillier for five  (or more) years not knowing that it needs wasps. Finally I discarded it last fall. I also shared it with many who don't have wasps in their area since it was in their wishlist.
A note in the F4F varietal page description could have saved frustrations to many.

Subject: Looking for Ficus palmata seeds... Replies: 1
Posted By: OttawanZ5 Views: 42
 
Will be hard to find if one exists. Google can't find it either.
Anyway, nice short one line post covering the whole page!

Subject: Is this anything to worry about? Should I cover it with more soil? Replies: 2
Posted By: OttawanZ5 Views: 182
 
It is the soil settling down over time. Not a big issue but adding some soil to cover can make the plant a happy plants.
I see it often with my plants but procrastinate to add soil (though eventually I add some when I get a chance). 

Subject: Any great Breba figs apart from ... Replies: 24
Posted By: OttawanZ5 Views: 917
 
Paul
Your Elana. Good breba when it has it.
I guess you sent it to the fig heaven.


Subject: Too much heat for new Figlets??? Replies: 19
Posted By: OttawanZ5 Views: 382
 
I agree with Alan. Fill up with soil close to the top of the pot and some mulch on top. More soil will cover additional part of the trunk and will soon have some more roots from newly covered part of the trunk adding to moisture intake by the plant thus slowing down the droop or stress. Mulch will help in slowing down moisture evaporation as well as keeping the top soil from getting too hot.

Subject: Where have all the flowers gone? Replies: 32
Posted By: OttawanZ5 Views: 1,014
 
Agree with you Denny. Those were the days




There are some obvious reason that may (just may) apply to some old member less frequent visits such as advance in age, diminishing strength and stamina or even financial situation (keeping collection is not cheap) that may make it difficult to pursue with the same zeal. 

My guess for other reason could be that many newbies, instead of searching the web to find answers to their questions, frequently ask questions that have been previously asked and answered many times. 

OR their collection got so big that it takes all their time tending to the collection. That is the real thing........

Subject: pinching practice on San Pedro figs Replies: 8
Posted By: OttawanZ5 Views: 317
 
Tyler, I guess it would help. I am not saying from experience because I have never pinched DK shoots but there will be some change in nutrient distribution after part of the branch is pinched off and the fruit may get some bonus nutrients for a while.

Honestly, I feel I always mismanage the DK growth pattern. This year I will make sure to prune right after the breba ripen so there will be enough time for the new shoots to lignify and produce breba next year.

I still wonder how I got a few ripened main crop DK figs in my location where we do not have fig wasps. That was a happy surprise.


Subject: pinching practice on San Pedro figs Replies: 8
Posted By: OttawanZ5 Views: 317
 
One main purpose of pinching is to expedite formation of main crop embryo and more so in areas with relatively short growing season.
In case Desert King breba embryos have long enough time to ripen in early (or mid) summer. So in this case (San Pedro type) pinching is not as helpful as in the case of other types.

Subject: Annual Wish-List of 6 most desirable cuttings for 2015-16 Replies: 90
Posted By: OttawanZ5 Views: 3,909
 
welcome to the forum.
Your collection looks good. But you posted it in a thread for a wishlist which has a specific purpose.
I hope you have some dark figs too to make it a better collection.



Subject: Winter storage Replies: 3
Posted By: OttawanZ5 Views: 85
 
I am in Zone 5a and use your option 2 (" Moving potted plants into a unheated garage .........") but with modification.  I have insulated the attached garage and use oil-filled heater to keep the garage at about 7 deg C. It works OK for me. The only problem I feel is the the low humidity. I do get 2% to 5% kill rate that I can live with. Insulation of garage keep the heating cost acceptable.

Subject: Fig cuttings update from 10 days ago. Replies: 5
Posted By: OttawanZ5 Views: 303
 
Cardinal rule is just keep them moist and not wet for long periods when the roots and leaves are a few. More leaves and more roots help transpiration that helps avoid soil staying soggy for too long. 

Subject: Can't locate any fig tree there! Fantasize. Replies: 1
Posted By: OttawanZ5 Views: 113
 
Such a big waste. Can't see a single fig tree there!
I don't like to fantasize but, but coming from Zone 5, the size and weather makes me imagine a lot of fig possibilities there.
http://www.lonny.com/Lady+Gaga's+Oceanfront+Malibu+Estate/articles/tcMk63F55Ea/Pool+Party